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Post #1  Postby Randy Sloan » December 18th 2010, 11:00am

Back in early November, RMP did a Q&A session with the Napa vintners. I finally got around to commenting and posting my notes on our blog but am reposting here.
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He’s been called the “Emperor of Wine” not because of the vast viticultural kingdom he rules, but because of the vast influence he holds over the wine industry and the wine buying public. With the stroke of his pen, he can either play king maker and anoint the next big thing in wine or he can doom a brand to failure – or at least to obscurity. That’s a bit of hyperbole, but it is true that the words of Robert M. Parker, Jr. help move the wine world.

I have zero personal experience with Robert Parker. All I knew of him were from reading his books and the Wine Advocate, his monthly newsletter of wine reviews. Second hand, I’d heard that he was pleasant and gracious in person. Professionally, I knew that – at least recently – his company had been tone-deaf in the area of customer service, displaying a George Bush level of blind loyalty to some staff members who, quite frankly, should have been removed from his publication and website. While few readers questioned Mr. Parker’s ethics, a couple of his tasters/staff members stepped in it big-time and to question the questionable invited censure or banning from the then public forum on eRobertParker.com. Since that time, the forum has been made subscription only. With the bannings of dissenters – admittedly perhaps one or two who were rabble-rousers – and the new pay-to-play policy, all is happy in that online kingdom, though quite a bit quieter when it comes to intelligent wine discussion.

Anyway, the purpose of this post is not to skewer Robert Parker. I’ve come not to bury Caesar, but to praise him. I believe he has done more positive for both the wine industry and wine drinkers than any other single person. On November 3, 2010, Mr. Parker sat down in front of about 70 Napa Valley vintners for an informal Question and Answer session. It was my pleasure to attend. These notes are from that session. Unless otherwise indicated, the views here are either direct quotes of Mr. Parker or my interpretation and understanding of what he said.

Mr. Parker started out by giving us some background information. Perhaps his personal history is well-known to some readers, but it wasn’t to me. He comes from a family of dairy farmers in Maryland and in fact, still lives just a few miles from where he grew up. I was surprised to learn that his parents did not drink. His first experience with wine was at a girlfriend’s 16th birthday party. His memory of that Andres Cold Duck wine was throwing up all night afterwards. While in law school, he followed a girlfriend who was studying abroad in France. She had more sophisticated tastes in wine and food than he did at the time and it was through travels with her that he first gained exposure, and later love, of Bordeaux and other French wines and foods. Apparently love was in the air: he is still married to that gal.

The first time he realized that California was a wine region worth investigating was when he purchased a $3.99 bottle of 1970 Parducci Cabernet Sauvignon. He was impressed by its pure and supple fruit.

Mr. Parker stated that he believes that the development of California’s single vineyard wines will be its legacy in the wine world. In fact, he came back to this point throughout the afternoon. While not discounting appellation blends, one could tell that he seems to be most interested in single vineyard wines.

In reference to California vintages, he compared our consistency of quality to chocolate truffles. “Even when you have a bad truffle, it’s good.” He described the 2007 vintage for Napa Cabernet as a “modern day reference point” but said that 2008, while troublesome for many regions and varieties in California, looks “fabulous” for Napa Cabernet. He said that “the sweet spot of 2008 was Napa Cabernet.” [Author’s note: This Q&A Session took place towards the end of Mr. Parker’s tasting trip in California. He had just tried many 2008 Napa Cabs.]

The floor was then opened to questions:

What do you see in Asian markets?

Mr. Parker confirmed what we already knew: that the thirst for fine wine is really growing in Asia and wineries must position themselves to take advantage of that market. He pointed out that the French, in particular, the Bordelais, are ahead of California vintners in marketing and brand recognition in Asia. However, he said that from tastings he has conducted in China, he believes that the Chinese are very open minded about wine. Korea, he pointed out, was a very dynamic wine market with “more wine bars in Seoul than in any other city.” Female wine buyers and sommeliers are also gaining influence. Taiwan and Singapore are good markets but hindered by high taxes on wine imports. Mr. Parker believes that the no tax on wine imports policy of Hong Kong will be a positive influence and perhaps force Korea and Singapore to follow suit.

What about Europe?

Mr. Parker didn’t see much future for Napa wines in Europe saying that they tend to be “too chauvinistic about their own products.” Perhaps some opportunity exists in Russia, but overall he recommended Napa vintners moving internationally should look to Asia and even to South America.

Winemaker Les Behrens asked, “is there any hope for Syrah?”

According to Mr. Parker, Syrah is probably the most satisfying wine at each price point. He pointed to several reasons why Syrah may be having problems. First he said that the flooding of the market by Yellow Tail, industrial style made Shiraz had cheapened the variety. Also, Syrah is made in so many divergent styles that perhaps folks don’t know what they are buying. He suggested that high-end Pinot Noir may be starting “to tank” and that Syrah may move to that position. He referred to the movie Sideways causing too much Pinot Noir to be planted in the wrong places. Wine varieties tend to be victims of their own over popularity as too many wineries try to cash in.

What about Social Media for wineries?

Mr. Parker said that he was one of the first wine writers using the internet, tracing his use back to the old online bulletin board Prodigy and its wine forum. He said that now the internet offers much information about wine ranging in quality from good to bad. Mr. Parker said that a lot of bloggers are just “a lot of white noise” but he does understand why these bloggers’ arrows seem to be aimed at him and Wine Spectator. According to Mr. Parker, it was the same when he started out: he aimed his arrows at the British wine press.

He did not mention Facebook or any of the other social media apps with the exception of Twitter which he says that he started using fairly recently (@RobertMParkerJr). He said that he usually sits down and composes 20-25 tweets at a time and then staggers their release.

His main advice to wineries: have your websites be “interactive” and available in Mandarin, Japanese, and Korean. He also suggested we could pay to have our sites appear higher in Google search results.

[Author’s note: In fairness to Mr. Parker, despite his claim to have been a pioneer in the wine online world, he hasn’t really pushed the envelope to explore much further than those Prodigy days. He’s not really the guy one should ask about wine and social media.]

How do you view your contribution to the prevalent style of Cabernet?

Mr. Parker chuckled and called this topic the “800 lb gorilla in the room.”

He believes that his tastes are often pigeon holed into too narrow an understanding. He then quickly moved off the topic and really didn’t address whether he thought he drove wine styles. He proceeded to describe the “elements of all great wine.”

* If one goes back and reads old diary entries that were written about wines which we recognize today as great, on release, these wines were described as “opulent.”
* Great wine comes from great terroir planted properly with the proper variety.
* Great wine is made from ripe fruit: not under ripe and not over ripe.
* Great wines have to be concentrated in the beginning for them to be concentrated later on.
* Alcohol content is not an issue if the wine is balanced. He said that he never once looked at ABV on a wine. If it tastes hot then it’s an issue.
* Great wine has to have a singular personality
* Great wine fulfills the reason we drink wines: hedonistic enjoyment and intellectual interest. “Do you want a second glass?”

What is your opinion of a classified growth system for California?

Mr. Parker said that he had thought about it, but that it wasn’t his job. He joked that he had enough enemies. He thinks such a system would probably be unnecessary and that ultimately single vineyards and AVAs “will take care of it.”

His advice to Napa, Sonoma, and the Central Coast is to keep telling our story. The greatest threat is complacency. He pointed out what he views as a huge advantage that Napa possesses: our geography sheltering us from weather, pollution, fall out, etc. He said that he thinks about this every time he is in Paulliac (Bordeaux, France) where apparently there is a nuke plant right by the vineyards.

In his opinion, Cabernet and Chardonnay are still king.

Can the image of Merlot come back?

Mr. Parker compared the situation to Pinot Noir: everyone jumps on the craze a lot of bad wine gets made.

What is a good wine pairing for spicy food, specifically Mexican dishes?

No oak, Zinfandel, Rhone Rangers such as Syrah, Grenache, Mourvedre blends, Riesling, Chateauneuf du Pape.

What do you think about Biodynamic farming practices?

Mr. Parker said that his own vineyard has been biodynamic since 2003 [Author’s note: He is part owner in the winery Beaux Freres in Oregon.] He said that he doesn’t think biodynamic farming practices have helped or hurt their wine quality except perhaps this year when biodynamics may have made things tougher because it was a very tough vintage. He said that he believes Biodynamic farming and Organic farming make their difference in marketing because the terms are popular with the public.

What is the demographic of your readership?

They studied this a few years back and he tried to recall from memory

* almost all men
* median age 41 or 42
* a lot of MDs
* high income
* about 55k subscribers

Mr. Parker then brought up recent events on eRobertParker.com that ended up with the online public forum becoming non-public and pay subscription only. He said a similar situation had happened back at Prodigy too. Perhaps “2 dozen troublemakers” “generally single men” “probably still living in the basement of their mother’s house” started making problems. He laughed it off and said that now you can “criticize me, call me whatever you want, but you’re going to have to pay for it.”

Regarding Pierre Rovani, a former Wine Advocate taster, Parker said that he was talented and wonderful, but couldn’t take criticism.

[Author’s note: It wasn’t clear why Mr. Parker made the last statement. It is especially ironic because my observations of the event described by Mr. Parker as the actions of a couple of dozen troublemakers was actually an example that Rovani is not the only wine critic who could not take criticism. There are two sides to this story.]

And finally, someone asked if there is an heir apparent to Robert Parker.

His answer: Antonio Galloni

Overall, I was impressed by Mr. Parker’s thoughtfulness, his candor, and his understanding of the wine industry. Whether the emporer lives in an ivory tower, unable to see what some of his underlings are doing to his image, or whether he just doesn’t care what those of us he rules think, I’ll leave that to another writer to decide. On this afternoon, in front of the Napa Vintners, he was gracious, sincere, and well-spoken. He possessed a humble demeanor and a frank style that I enjoyed very much.
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Post #2  Postby Robert.Fleming » December 18th 2010, 11:52am

Mr. Parker then brought up recent events on eRobertParker.com that ended up with the online public forum becoming non-public and pay subscription only. He said a similar situation had happened back at Prodigy too. Perhaps “2 dozen troublemakers” “generally single men” “probably still living in the basement of their mother’s house” started making problems.


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Post #3  Postby Phillip F r a n k s » December 18th 2010, 11:54am

and they're off...
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Post #4  Postby TomHill » December 18th 2010, 12:12pm

Robert.Fleming wrote:
Mr. Parker then brought up recent events on eRobertParker.com that ended up with the online public forum becoming non-public and pay subscription only. He said a similar situation had happened back at Prodigy too. Perhaps “2 dozen troublemakers” “generally single men” “probably still living in the basement of their mother’s house” started making problems.

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He actually said that, Bob?? Wow!!
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Post #5  Postby Alan Rath » December 18th 2010, 12:18pm

Randy Sloan wrote:His advice to Napa, Sonoma, and the Central Coast is to keep telling our story. The greatest threat is complacency. He pointed out what he views as a huge advantage that Napa possesses: our geography sheltering us from weather, pollution, fall out, etc. He said that he thinks about this every time he is in Paulliac (Bordeaux, France) where apparently there is a nuke plant right by the vineyards.
Don't know why this struck me as funny. Does he think the nuke plants are spewing out radioactive waste a la Chernobyl? BTW, there are plants along the Rhone river as well.

All in all, an interesting report, thanks for posting.
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Post #6  Postby B Stucker » December 18th 2010, 12:56pm

Randy Sloan wrote: . I was surprised to learn that his parents did not drink.


Perhaps your surprise is because it isn't true. He has stated that his father drink bourbon. Or so it was reported in the Emperor book.

Maybe he meant they did not drink wine.
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Post #7  Postby M. Dildine » December 18th 2010, 12:59pm

Alan Rath wrote:
Randy Sloan wrote:His advice to Napa, Sonoma, and the Central Coast is to keep telling our story. The greatest threat is complacency. He pointed out what he views as a huge advantage that Napa possesses: our geography sheltering us from weather, pollution, fall out, etc. He said that he thinks about this every time he is in Paulliac (Bordeaux, France) where apparently there is a nuke plant right by the vineyards.
Don't know why this struck me as funny. Does he think the nuke plants are spewing out radioactive waste a la Chernobyl? BTW, there are plants along the Rhone river as well.

All in all, an interesting report, thanks for posting.


Agree - that is hilarious. If I needed another reason to stop buying Bords (I don't) this would be it!
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Robert.Fleming wrote:
Mr. Parker then brought up recent events on eRobertParker.com that ended up with the online public forum becoming non-public and pay subscription only. He said a similar situation had happened back at Prodigy too. Perhaps “2 dozen troublemakers” “generally single men” “probably still living in the basement of their mother’s house” started making problems.


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Post #10  Postby Todd F r e n c h » December 18th 2010, 1:51pm

Is there truly a legitimate reason why one would feel the need to say such a thing anyway?
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Post #11  Postby Seo S a l i m i » December 18th 2010, 2:13pm

Thanks for the post. Interesting read.
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Post #12  Postby Bill Tex Landreth » December 18th 2010, 2:14pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:Is there truly a legitimate reason why one would feel the need to say such a thing anyway?


Yeah. He feels like he is better than you and I.
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Post #14  Postby Ed Murray » December 18th 2010, 2:28pm

Enzo Ruffalo wrote:Wow how things have changed. There was a time when I would have cared to read what Robert Parker had to say. But today, I only opened it to find out what new stupid thing fell out of his malignant maw. And sure enough, he did not disappoint. The closing of his board has been his undoing to me. When once he would receive criticisms, his supporters would join the fray to balance the criticisms by pointing out his (dwindling) virtues and remind us that the very forum he was being criticized on was being supported by the man. I felt supportive of him and wrote off his foibles and shortcomings to his being after all human like the rest of us.

Since all that has transpired, I see him quite differently. He is an egomaniac who responds to criticism by taking his football and going home. Big assed baby. There was a lot of very polite and constructive criticism of his mannerisms, and business decisions from his choice of staff to the idiotic software he stood behind for so long, and the ignoring of the brilliance of Cellar Tracker. When he had the opportunity to get a handle on the equally sardonic Squires, he chose instead to increase his power and autonomy sealing the fate of what was a world class discussion board. Did he really think it could be both free, open and productive and also Eden? God found out how well THAT idea works. Maybe Parker thinks he is smarter than God. And now when he is criticized, his fans are nowhere to be found, because they're encased in their own little Jonestown, enjoying the spoofulated Kool-aid.

And to think I once was an admirer. For whatever he has done to expand my vinous horizons, he has undone by fracturing a community that would likely not have survived were it not for Mr. French and those who steered us here. Bravo to you Todd. May you keep your glass full and your ego in check forever.


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Post #15  Postby Bill Tex Landreth » December 18th 2010, 2:31pm

Enzo Ruffalo wrote:Bravo to you Todd. May you keep your glass full and your ego in check forever.


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Post #16  Postby J a y H a c k » December 18th 2010, 2:35pm

Randy Sloan wrote:Mr. Parker then brought up recent events on eRobertParker.com that ended up with the online public forum becoming non-public and pay subscription only. He said a similar situation had happened back at Prodigy too. Perhaps “2 dozen troublemakers” “generally single men” “probably still living in the basement of their mother’s house” started making problems.
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Post #17  Postby Todd F r e n c h » December 18th 2010, 2:35pm

Bill Tex Landreth wrote:
Enzo Ruffalo wrote:Bravo to you Todd. May you keep your glass full and your ego in check forever.


Don't forget his biceps to be fully pumped.

The 'ego in check' statement might be a problem...and I'm surprised nobody else said it first.

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Post #18  Postby M. Dildine » December 18th 2010, 2:42pm

Mr. Parker has forgotten more about wine than you or I will ever know.

He has also lost some credibility with many.

While I consider his comments somewhat differently than I did a few years back, I'm still interested in hearing what he has to say.
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Post #19  Postby Peter Kleban » December 18th 2010, 2:45pm

Randy Sloan wrote:Mr. Parker then brought up recent events on eRobertParker.com that ended up with the online public forum becoming non-public and pay subscription only. He said a similar situation had happened back at Prodigy too. Perhaps “2 dozen troublemakers” “generally single men” “probably still living in the basement of their mother’s house” started making problems.


and, he forgot to add, posting while in their pyjamas...
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Post #20  Postby Randy Sloan » December 18th 2010, 2:52pm

M. Dildine wrote:Mr. Parker has forgotten more about wine than you or I will ever know.

He has also lost some credibility with many.

While I consider his comments somewhat differently than I did a few years back, I'm still interested in hearing what he has to say.


I totally agree with you.

He is an important, intelligent guy, who while gifted in the sensory evaluation of wine and the written description of his experiences, seems to have faltered in the area of customer service at a time when more and better service is demanded. He also does not seem willing or able to find someone (and to give up some element of control to them) in order to improve this area of his business so that he can concentrate on what he does best.
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Post #21  Postby Randy Sloan » December 18th 2010, 2:57pm

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Randy Sloan wrote: . I was surprised to learn that his parents did not drink.


Perhaps your surprise is because it isn't true. He has stated that his father drink bourbon. Or so it was reported in the Emperor book.

Maybe he meant they did not drink wine.


Maybe. My notes just said parents did not drink. [truce.gif]

I don't know why it should surprise me either... my parents did not drink when I was growing up either.
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Post #22  Postby Bob Foster » December 18th 2010, 3:12pm

I always love to read how Mr Parker

1. rewrites history
2. always finds a way to take a shot at anyone who dares to be critical of his opinions.

I can't speak to the eRobertParker era, but as one of the active wine folks on Prodigy, his critics were not single men but married men, many with kids. He just can't bring himself to simply say, "We will have to agree to disagree," he has to say "We will have to agree to disagree but only because you are an idiot."

He hasn't changed a bit in 20 years.
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Post #23  Postby Ron Kramer » December 18th 2010, 3:52pm

Randy Sloan wrote:
M. Dildine wrote:Mr. Parker has forgotten more about wine than you or I will ever know.

He has also lost some credibility with many.

While I consider his comments somewhat differently than I did a few years back, I'm still interested in hearing what he has to say.


I totally agree with you.

He is an important, intelligent guy, who while gifted in the sensory evaluation of wine and the written description of his experiences, seems to have faltered in the area of customer service at a time when more and better service is demanded. He also does not seem willing or able to find someone (and to give up some element of control to them) in order to improve this area of his business so that he can concentrate on what he does best.



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Post #24  Postby Steve Manzi » December 18th 2010, 4:13pm

Unfortunately, happy drunks turn into old drunks. And sadly, many of them turn into miserable old drunks.

And a thread like this would have churned out 100s and 100s of posts, in a very short time, when this board was first created. Where now, in the basement of "mom's house, us single men and women are happy to move on with a chuckle and a quick thought or joke. [berserker.gif]

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Post #25  Postby dave cuneo » December 18th 2010, 6:03pm

"If Robert Parker did not exist, he would have to be invented".

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Post #26  Postby Cris Whetstone » December 18th 2010, 6:27pm

Peter Kleban wrote:
Randy Sloan wrote:Mr. Parker then brought up recent events on eRobertParker.com that ended up with the online public forum becoming non-public and pay subscription only. He said a similar situation had happened back at Prodigy too. Perhaps “2 dozen troublemakers” “generally single men” “probably still living in the basement of their mother’s house” started making problems.


and, he forgot to add, posting while in their pyjamas...

Speak for yourself. There's no need for such modesty when its just you, your wine and glow of your monitor.
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Randy Sloan wrote:Mr. Parker then brought up recent events on eRobertParker.com that ended up with the online public forum becoming non-public and pay subscription only. He said a similar situation had happened back at Prodigy too. Perhaps “2 dozen troublemakers” “generally single men” “probably still living in the basement of their mother’s house” started making problems.
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Randy Sloan wrote:Mr. Parker then brought up recent events on eRobertParker.com that ended up with the online public forum becoming non-public and pay subscription only. He said a similar situation had happened back at Prodigy too. Perhaps “2 dozen troublemakers” “generally single men” “probably still living in the basement of their mother’s house” started making problems.


and, he forgot to add, posting while in their pyjamas...

Speak for yourself. There's no need for such modesty when its just you, your wine and glow of your monitor.


2:1 he is a Sierra Carche kinda guy...

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Post #29  Postby Peter Kleban » December 18th 2010, 7:51pm

Bill Tex Landreth wrote:
Cris Whetstone wrote:
Peter Kleban wrote:
Randy Sloan wrote:Mr. Parker then brought up recent events on eRobertParker.com that ended up with the online public forum becoming non-public and pay subscription only. He said a similar situation had happened back at Prodigy too. Perhaps “2 dozen troublemakers” “generally single men” “probably still living in the basement of their mother’s house” started making problems.


and, he forgot to add, posting while in their pyjamas...

Speak for yourself. There's no need for such modesty when its just you, your wine and glow of your monitor.


2:1 he is a Sierra Carche kinda guy...

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Closet hippy, is what I had in mind...
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Post #30  Postby Scott Butler » December 18th 2010, 8:02pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:Is there truly a legitimate reason why one would feel the need to say such a thing anyway?



Plenty of reasons:

(1) He is getting older
(2) His taste buds are fading
(3) His influence is not quite what it used to be.
(3) The internet means there are many more opinions to be read.
(4) He feels threatened.
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Post #31  Postby Tom Symonette » December 18th 2010, 8:10pm

P. Robert wrote:
Robert.Fleming wrote:
MPerhaps “2 dozen troublemakers” “generally single men” “probably still living in the basement of their mother’s house” started making problems.


[shock.gif]


How original! Wouldn't be surprised if at least a million posters from the Yahoo boards sue him for stealing one of their favorite all-time insults.
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Post #32  Postby David Wright » December 18th 2010, 8:11pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:Is there truly a legitimate reason why one would feel the need to say such a thing anyway?

Maybe he's a smartass, and just likes to yank the chains of people who claim that they don't care what he thinks...?
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Post #33  Postby Scott Butler » December 18th 2010, 8:12pm

Tom Symonette wrote:
P. Robert wrote:
Robert.Fleming wrote:
MPerhaps “2 dozen troublemakers” “generally single men” “probably still living in the basement of their mother’s house” started making problems.


[shock.gif]


How original! Wouldn't be surprised if at least a million posters from the Yahoo boards sue him for stealing one of their favorite all-time insults.



Wait, you mean he plagarized?!?!? [wink.gif]
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Post #34  Postby Tom Symonette » December 18th 2010, 8:13pm

Randy Sloan wrote:What do you think about Biodynamic farming practices?

Mr. Parker said that his own vineyard has been biodynamic since 2003 [Author’s note: He is part owner in the winery Beaux Freres in Oregon.] He said that he doesn’t think biodynamic farming practices have helped or hurt their wine quality except perhaps this year when biodynamics may have made things tougher because it was a very tough vintage. He said that he believes Biodynamic farming and Organic farming make their difference in marketing because the terms are popular with the public.


I think he's spot on here, though!
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Post #35  Postby Tom Symonette » December 18th 2010, 8:16pm

Randy Sloan wrote:Regarding Pierre Rovani, a former Wine Advocate taster, Parker said that he was talented and wonderful, but couldn’t take criticism.


And, this one is clearly pot calling the kettle black.
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Post #36  Postby David Henry » December 18th 2010, 8:22pm

Scott Butler wrote:
Todd F r e n c h wrote:Is there truly a legitimate reason why one would feel the need to say such a thing anyway?



Plenty of reasons:

(1) He is getting older
(2) His taste buds are fading
(3) His influence is not quite what it used to be.
(3) The internet means there are many more opinions to be read.
(4) He feels threatened.


And (5) gotta give him credit, he's not goin' down without a fight.
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Post #37  Postby Scott Butler » December 18th 2010, 8:26pm

David Henry wrote:
Scott Butler wrote:
Todd F r e n c h wrote:Is there truly a legitimate reason why one would feel the need to say such a thing anyway?



Plenty of reasons:

(1) He is getting older
(2) His taste buds are fading
(3) His influence is not quite what it used to be.
(3) The internet means there are many more opinions to be read.
(4) He feels threatened.


And (5) gotta give him credit, he's not goin' down without a fight.


Amen to that.
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Post #38  Postby Ken V » December 18th 2010, 8:36pm

Cris Whetstone wrote:
Peter Kleban wrote:
Randy Sloan wrote:Mr. Parker then brought up recent events on eRobertParker.com that ended up with the online public forum becoming non-public and pay subscription only. He said a similar situation had happened back at Prodigy too. Perhaps “2 dozen troublemakers” “generally single men” “probably still living in the basement of their mother’s house” started making problems.

and, he forgot to add, posting while in their pyjamas...

Speak for yourself. There's no need for such modesty when its just you, your wine and glow of your monitor.

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Post #39  Postby Gordon Fitz » December 18th 2010, 9:21pm

I often take issue with RP's TN's and scores, but they are more accurate and more unbiased than 98% of such posted on CT.
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Post #40  Postby Bob Wood » December 18th 2010, 9:25pm

Gordon Fitz wrote:I often take issue with RP's TN's and scores, but they are more accurate and more unbiased than 98% of such posted on CT.


Congratulations, Gordon. You may have bitten off just a bit more than you can chew with this one.

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Post #41  Postby Steve Saxon » December 18th 2010, 9:26pm

Gordon Fitz wrote:I often take issue with RP's TN's and scores, but they are more accurate and more unbiased than 98% of such posted on CT.


How can you say that? Parkers notes are generally 5+ years old and he drinks the wines under perfect conditions, CT notes reflect how the wines are drinking now by people like you and me.
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Post #42  Postby Scott Butler » December 18th 2010, 9:29pm

Gordon Fitz wrote:I often take issue with RP's TN's and scores, but they are more accurate and more unbiased than 98% of such posted on CT.



Riiiiiiight, because people who simply like wine...but are not ITB...are clearly more biased than a guy who has built an empire based on reviews. Yeh......seems logical.
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Post #43  Postby Cris Whetstone » December 18th 2010, 9:33pm

David Henry wrote:
Scott Butler wrote:
Todd F r e n c h wrote:Is there truly a legitimate reason why one would feel the need to say such a thing anyway?



Plenty of reasons:

(1) He is getting older
(2) His taste buds are fading
(3) His influence is not quite what it used to be.
(3) The internet means there are many more opinions to be read.
(4) He feels threatened.


And (5) gotta give him credit, he's not goin' down without a fight.

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Post #44  Postby Gordon Fitz » December 18th 2010, 9:48pm

Steve:

It's simple.Parker is somewhat consistent to his taste. Whereas, we have people on CT that rate wines as undrinkable, and give them 87 points. People have posted here on numerous occasions on their different rating schemes. Some view 90 points as merely an average wine! I'm not here to do a redux on the shortcomings on CT postings, in regard to points awarded. No use rehashing that beast. As I said, I often disagree with Parker, and his preferred style of wine, but his ratings are just more consistent than what you find on CT. But that's to be expected when you are comparing one person's ratings to that of a multitude.
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Post #45  Postby Steve Saxon » December 18th 2010, 9:57pm

Gordon Fitz wrote:Steve:

It's simple.Parker is somewhat consistent to his taste. Whereas, we have people on CT that rate wines as undrinkable, and give them 87 points. People have posted here on numerous occasions on their different rating schemes. Some view 90 points as merely an average wine! I'm not here to do a redux on the shortcomings on CT postings, in regard to points awarded. No use rehashing that beast. As I said, I often disagree with Parker, and his preferred style of wine, but his ratings are just more consistent than what you find on CT. But that's to be expected when you are comparing one person's ratings to that of a multitude.


I use Parker as a guide but you can certainly feel how a wine is drinking now with CT. Example: 2001 Pichon Baron....Parker last tasted it in June 2004, if you own one are you going to use that note for whether you should drink it now or wait? That's why I use CT, and I can also look at the names of tasters I trust to know how the wine really is.
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Post #46  Postby J Diven » December 18th 2010, 9:58pm

Gordon Fitz wrote: But that's to be expected when you are comparing one person's ratings to that of a multitude.


Here you openly admit you made a comparison of an apple to a grapefruit.
So i'm wondering then - what was the point you were trying to make?

Why didn't you compare him to other, professional critics instead of an alternative form/forum where there is lots of other valuable information to be derived?
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Post #47  Postby Roy Hersh » December 18th 2010, 10:08pm

Very little if anything is newsworthy or all that interesting but there was ONE revelation, unless it has been mentioned elsewhere before ... but otherwise, ONLY in the first post of this thread.

Antonio Galloni as the heir apparent to RP? Now that is news and I am pretty surprised that it was not a major discussion point here by others. After all, David S., and Neal M. must not have felt warm and fuzzy reading that. Nothing for or against Antonio as I don't know enough about his writing stylistically or otherwise, but he must have loved reading that Parker had that type of confidence in him to make that statement so publicly.
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Post #48  Postby Gordon Fitz » December 18th 2010, 10:13pm

Steve;

We do agree that is the potentially biggest advantage of CT, notwithstanding my mentioned faults.

Unfortuneatly, imo, too many of the TNs on CT are on the wines in very young states, like 07 CA cab; 08 OR pinots; 05 BdMs, etc. where the TNs have no revelance at all for the wines. I have a host of mature wines in my cellar where no revelant postings are made. If I never saw another post that said " I took one for the team, this wine shouldn't be opened for another 5-10 years, but for everyone into infactide, here are the TNs", life would be a better. Actually, I typically stop reading at the first ,.
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Post #49  Postby Tom Symonette » December 18th 2010, 10:19pm

Roy Hersh wrote:Very little if anything is newsworthy or all that interesting but there was ONE revelation, unless it has been mentioned elsewhere before ... but otherwise, ONLY in the first post of this thread.

Antonio Galloni as the heir apparent to RP? Now that is news and I am pretty surprised that it was not a major discussion point here by others. After all, David S., and Neal M. must not have felt warm and fuzzy reading that. Nothing for or against Antonio as I don't know enough about his writing stylistically or otherwise, but he must have loved reading that Parker had that type of confidence in him to make that statement so publicly.


I was struck by it too, but dismissed it as being of no more value than as a backhand to Mr. Galloni's WA colleagues. As for heir apparent, the next emperor won't be anywhere near as influential, and at the rate Mr. Parker is going with his comments, the empire won't survive his passing.
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Post #50  Postby Steve Saxon » December 18th 2010, 10:21pm

Gordon Fitz wrote:Steve;

We do agree that is the potentially biggest advantage of CT, notwithstanding my mentioned faults.

Unfortuneatly, imo, too many of the TNs on CT are on the wines in very young states, like 07 CA cab; 08 OR pinots; 05 BdMs, etc. where the TNs have no revelance at all for the wines. I have a host of mature wines in my cellar where no revelant postings are made. If I never saw another post that said " I took one for the team, this wine shouldn't be opened for another 5-10 years, but for everyone into infactide, here are the TNs", life would be a better. Actually, I typically stop reading at the first ,.


Got it........you and I are alike in that we have older cellars. When it comes to Cal Cabs I have very few younger than a 95, bdx, I only back fill great bottles, etc. I can see why you have no use for CT.
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