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Post #1  Postby Nick Ryan » February 9th 2011, 11:34am

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Post #2  Postby David McMillen » February 9th 2011, 11:37am

What is the deal with the scarf?

Suckling aside, I'm excited about the '08
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Post #3  Postby Nick Ryan » February 9th 2011, 11:42am

David McMillen wrote:What is the deal with the scarf?

Suckling aside, I'm excited about the '08


Indeed, unlikely I will buy a case like I did with the 2007, but it will certainly be my largest Cab purchase of the year.
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Post #4  Postby John Mc » February 9th 2011, 11:45am

I was wondering the same thing about the scarf

and it looked like he was consulting an ipad for his notes
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Post #5  Postby Marshall Gelb » February 9th 2011, 11:46am

Keeping Suckling out of it.............the 2008 is another beautiful wine and I am looking forward to the release.


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Post #6  Postby Steve Steinbergher » February 9th 2011, 9:44pm

I'm excited for the release of the 08 as well. Has anyone heard of a tentative release date?
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Post #7  Postby jcoley3 » February 9th 2011, 10:01pm

I'm 95 points on Beth Novak Miliken's remarkable ability to refrain from smacking the taste out of James Suckling's mouth during that segment.

As to Spottswoode, great wines.

I'm not sure how much of it gets into distribution, but they have a second wine called Lyndenhurst that retails for about $60. I've seen it in restaurants for around $100. Great wine for the price.
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Post #8  Postby T. Altmayer » February 9th 2011, 10:03pm

Marshall Gelb wrote:Keeping Suckling out of it.............the 2008 is another beautiful wine and I am looking forward to the release.


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Me too, I'm excited to try the wine. I've been buying since the late '90s and rarely has there been a vintage I've not liked. Even '98 and '00 had a charm to them.
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Post #9  Postby dave cuneo » February 9th 2011, 10:15pm

Spottswoode is the bomb but Suckling is a complete freaking dandy in this video. dc.
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Post #10  Postby Xavier Lavoipierre » February 9th 2011, 10:33pm

Spottswoode, yes. Suckling, no. I'm not sure there's a more pompous, pretentious buffoon in the industry. He makes me want to smack him with a nerf bat. I'm 98 on that!
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Post #11  Postby Cris Whetstone » February 9th 2011, 10:45pm

A video of a visit to Spottswoode that consists of him reading his TN's off of a computer. Riveting. [boredom.gif]

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Post #12  Postby John Webber » February 10th 2011, 7:21am

The (what I thought was a) faux accent made me want to punch him in the mouth, but I said maybe he is foreign born.

I looked and found this:

Born in Los Angeles, California, as an undergraduate Suckling read political science and journalism at Utah State University. After graduating from Utah State University, Suckling studied journalism at the University of Wisconsin, Madison where he was hired in 1978 by a local paper as a crime news gofer. Having completed his course in journalism at the University of Wisconsin he moved to San Diego, and through the influence of his father began to be interested in the world of wine.

Napa Vol-ley? Cabernet Sav-i-Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn (which he later pronounces differently while tasting)? The scarf? Reading from an i-pad? Sticking with the, "i'm X points on that!"

It's too bad these aren't parodies because they would be really funny. They capture the essence of why the wine world is so off-putting to many.

To keep this on topic, Spottswoode is mighty fine and i'm looking forward to the 08.
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Post #13  Postby Nate Simon » February 10th 2011, 7:28am

Obviously, the scarf is just a little something for the ladies!
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Post #14  Postby Robert Alfert, Jr. » February 10th 2011, 7:32am

OMG, the pomposity and feigned sense of culture is beyond belief. I at first thought these skits were parodies. He shows up to these esteemed wineries, and reads to them his notes and scores as if he is blessing them. Wow.
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Post #15  Postby Justin Bonner » February 10th 2011, 7:49am

The scarf is there to keep his ego warm.
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Post #16  Postby L e o F r o k i c » February 10th 2011, 7:54am

jcoley3 wrote:I'm 95 points on Beth Novak Miliken's remarkable ability to refrain from smacking the taste out of James Suckling's mouth during that segment.

As to Spottswoode, great wines.

I'm not sure how much of it gets into distribution, but they have a second wine called Lyndenhurst that retails for about $60. I've seen it in restaurants for around $100. Great wine for the price.


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Post #17  Postby Bill Klapp » February 10th 2011, 8:17am

Nate Simon wrote:Obviously, the scarf is just a little something for the ladies!


I agree. But it makes you wonder why Suckling is wearing the scarf, instead of a lady!
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Post #18  Postby Matthew Brown » February 10th 2011, 8:32am

Justin Bonner wrote:The scarf is there to keep his ego warm.


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Post #19  Postby AlexHay » February 10th 2011, 8:33am

I still say he looks like the creep from Silence of The Lambs in that clip. [help.gif]
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Post #20  Postby Mel Hill » February 10th 2011, 8:33am

Justin Bonner wrote:The scarf is there to keep his ego warm.


Oh, I'm 97 point on that comment!
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Post #21  Postby Barry P » February 10th 2011, 9:43am

AlexHay wrote:I still say he looks like the creep from Silence of The Lambs in that clip. [help.gif]


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Post #22  Postby Marcus Stanley » February 10th 2011, 9:46am

C'mon, Suckling has already given us "I'm XX points on that", who knows what gifts he still has to give to the wine community.

It's amazing he would think people are interested in listening to him reel off cliched adjectives and point scores when the winemaker and owner are sitting right there. How about asking them something about how they decide on their style, their priorities compared to other winemakers, the challenges in different vintages? No, his opinions are more interesting.

"I'm XX points on that" -- the critic telling the lowly wine consumer what to think -- is dead as a business model. But "I'm here" -- using your access to winemakers to ask interesting questions and help wine consumers understand the choices they make -- could still work.
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Post #23  Postby Marshall Gelb » February 10th 2011, 10:21am

Robert Alfert, Jr. wrote:OMG, the pomposity and feigned sense of culture is beyond belief. I at first thought these skits were parodies. He shows up to these esteemed wineries, and reads to them his notes and scores as if he is blessing them. Wow.



John Webber wrote:The (what I thought was a) faux accent made me want to punch him in the mouth, but I said maybe he is foreign born.

I looked and found this:

Born in Los Angeles, California, as an undergraduate Suckling read political science and journalism at Utah State University. After graduating from Utah State University, Suckling studied journalism at the University of Wisconsin, Madison where he was hired in 1978 by a local paper as a crime news gofer. Having completed his course in journalism at the University of Wisconsin he moved to San Diego, and through the influence of his father began to be interested in the world of wine.

Napa Vol-ley? Cabernet Sav-i-Yawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn (which he later pronounces differently while tasting)? The scarf? Reading from an i-pad? Sticking with the, "i'm X points on that!"

It's too bad these aren't parodies because they would be really funny. They capture the essence of why the wine world is so off-putting to many.

To keep this on topic, Spottswoode is mighty fine and i'm looking forward to the 08.




These two posts are absolutely spot on..........he seems to be a caricature of a "wine snob". If I was a total novice looking at this video, it would totally turn me off to the beauty of wine. [bleh.gif] I absolutely love Spottswoode wines (well documented on this board) and I know the 2008 is a beautiful wine. They really don't need this type of publicity but they must have felt it to be beneficial. To me, his pomposity is a turn off and I am glad I am not a " newbie" as he would turn me off to wine in general. [soap.gif]

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Post #24  Postby jcoley3 » February 10th 2011, 11:16am

L e o F r o k i c wrote:
jcoley3 wrote:I'm 95 points on Beth Novak Miliken's remarkable ability to refrain from smacking the taste out of James Suckling's mouth during that segment.

As to Spottswoode, great wines.

I'm not sure how much of it gets into distribution, but they have a second wine called Lyndenhurst that retails for about $60. I've seen it in restaurants for around $100. Great wine for the price.


Welcome back jim, it's been a while since I seen you around this woods!

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Thanks, Leo. Hope you're well. I should be back around a little more regularly in 2011. Hope to be in NYC in June - I'll look you up if I head that way!

Marshall Gelb wrote:These two posts are absolutely spot on..........he seems to be a caricature of a "wine snob". If I was a total novice looking at this video, it would totally turn me off to the beauty of wine.


Watched twice, with consistent notes. The video feels like it was cut for a reality show that makes its contestants into the worst possible caricature of themselves.
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Post #25  Postby Jon Troutman » February 10th 2011, 12:13pm

Cris Whetstone wrote:A video of a visit to Spottswoode that consists of him reading his TN's off of a computer. Riveting. [boredom.gif]

If he actually provided some sort of an interview... got details about their philosophies and winemaking practices, discussed the history of the winery, etc... these videos would actually be valuable and conceivably interesting. Instead it's like Wine Spectator meets "books on tape".
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Post #26  Postby Barry P » February 10th 2011, 12:40pm

And what's with the uptalk: "I'm here at Spottswoode Estate? In Napa Valley? In St. Helena?"

And did he really pronounce the word "valley" as "VAH-Lee".

His speech is like so AH-fected?

I think these videos do him no justice. He was much better off, behind the scences, opaque to readers as the critic with a merely funny name.
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Post #27  Postby Jim Salvito » February 10th 2011, 12:42pm

Regarding the 2007: "Don't touch that until 2015". I'm pretty sure that was meant for you Rob McKay, unless of course you want to bring some to the Napa event next month! [cheers.gif]
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Post #28  Postby Bill Bøykin » February 10th 2011, 12:42pm

Barry P wrote:
AlexHay wrote:I still say he looks like the creep from Silence of The Lambs in that clip. [help.gif]


It puts the lotion on itself.


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Post #29  Postby Ted Erfer » February 10th 2011, 12:43pm

We're changing the wine world one scarf at a time pileon

As has been said above - it would have been great to actually have some comments from the winemakers - other than the look of shock at the points. Maybe that is something he offers on the $15 per month plan.
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Post #30  Postby Evan Dawson » February 10th 2011, 12:50pm

Ugh. 3 and a half minutes of video and 90% of it is the critic bestowing scores in that most awkward of situations. I want to hear the winemakers talk about their wines. I don't care about scarves and kiss-this-rings and Noppa Volleys and declarative sentences that are somehow turned into questions with strange vocal intonations.

I just want to hear the winemakers. Gah.
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Post #31  Postby John Davis » February 10th 2011, 1:06pm

That's three minutes of my life I'm never getting back..... Awful. He's better off not speaking. Let the writing speak for itself.....oh, yeah, nevermind.

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Post #32  Postby Jim Brennan » February 10th 2011, 1:41pm

I'm sooo glad that Suckling is on the case, finding great new wines before anyone else knows about them!
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Post #33  Postby AlexHay » February 10th 2011, 1:56pm

Jim Brennan wrote:I'm sooo glad that Suckling is on the case, finding great new wines before anyone else knows about them!
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Post #34  Postby Bob Kaminski » February 10th 2011, 1:59pm

Was it me, or did she seem like she was trying really hard to not burst out laughing when JS was in adjective overdrive.

Now if he were to say this wine is undrinkable....well that would be something.

As far as Spottswoode, good wines, but I am a member of a new political party called the "wine is priced too damn high". Similar to the "rent is too damn high" party in NY.
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Post #35  Postby jdietz » February 10th 2011, 2:13pm

I think nearly everyone is missing the point. This is clearly a parody. It is a screen test for SNL. He is pointedly making fun of RMP by looking so RMPish. I'm surprised so few have gotten the joke yet. You are all too serious, methinks, to see what is patently obvious to me. JL is a comic genius!!
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