The Garagiste Thread (The Great Enabler) Back to Life

[Yoni O v a d i a]

Someone else started on the last Berserker forum, so I figured I'd get it going over here....

Anyone biting on the 2004 Le Ragnaie Brunello di Montalcino that was just emailed out. Being another vintage of the century, I am tempted to, but will pass on this.

[Todd F r e n c h]

Someone else started on the last Berserker forum, so I figured I'd get it going over here....

Anyone biting on the 2004 Le Ragnaie Brunello di Montalcino that was just emailed out. Being another vintage of the century, I am tempted to, but will pass on this.

It truly is most convenient that each year is the vintage of the century, I might add...

[Kevin Klym]

Someone else started on the last Berserker forum, so I figured I'd get it going over here....

Anyone biting on the 2004 Le Ragnaie Brunello di Montalcino that was just emailed out. Being another vintage of the century, I am tempted to, but will pass on this.

It truly is most convenient that each year is the vintage of the century, I might add...

Early reports are 04 Brunello is spotty after being hailed as the vintage of the century . . . yet again. Galloni hinted at that in his forum on an 04 Brunello post. Plus, I just don't know enough about this producer, nor have I had enough Garagiste experience to know if John's flowing descriptions come true or not.

I attended an 04 Tuscany/05 Piedmont trade tasting last week and while the Poggio Antico was fantastic and the Lisini and Fuligni were good, but not mind blowing, I felt others were lacking. I believe this is in part due to the fact that the wines were only open an hour prior (doesn't John mention something to this fact in the e-mail about the SF event?) and thus were gripping, and not giving anything, as expected, at least for my palate.

I think there will be plenty of 2004 Brunello at screaming prices in mid to late Spring as this vintage doesn't live up to they hype and the anticipated economic conditions continue.

[Cris Whetstone]

Doesn't 2004 fall under the time when Brunello wineries were caught using fruit from other areas? Did they nail down whether that was a "few bad apples" or a common practice across the region? I'd have to defer to others for info on the vintage but I've roundly heard 2004 was good in Italy. Don't remember vintage of the century talk though.

[Kevin Klym]

Doesn't 2004 fall under the time when Brunello wineries were caught using fruit from other areas? Did they nail down whether that was a "few bad apples" or a common practice across the region? I'd have to defer to others for info on the vintage but I've roundly heard 2004 was good in Italy. Don't remember vintage of the century talk though.

Chris,

My vintage of the century monkier was probably overblown. From what I have tasted and read, 2004 Piedmont is living up to the hype. As for Brunello, most of the "scandal" was centered around the 2003 vintage, although there seem to still be some who wonder if all of the improprieties were revealed and thus wonder if the 2004s are, in fact, "pure" Sangiovese.

A great resource from an insiders view (albeit he is ITB, winemaker at Il Poggione) is from the Montalcino Report, of which I won't link, as I do not know the rules of such behavior on this site. Anyway, he has a post on there from mid December speaking to additional monitoring procedures to avoid another "scandal". It ties in with the whole grey market issue and his belief against it, etc., etc.

I am less concerned about another vintage marred by blending issues than by a) inconsistent quality and b) ever increasing prices based on superior vintage speculation.

I too, would defer to others for more info, however, as I am no expert.

[Cris Whetstone]

Thanks for the thoughts Kevin. I can't see any reason your link would be disallowed though. The more good info the better.

[zachary l a n g]

I just joined the garagiste emails...they wouldn't ship to Mass, but I just found out they can ship to NH. Just what I need, another source!

[Todd F r e n c h]

Doesn't 2004 fall under the time when Brunello wineries were caught using fruit from other areas? Did they nail down whether that was a "few bad apples" or a common practice across the region? I'd have to defer to others for info on the vintage but I've roundly heard 2004 was good in Italy. Don't remember vintage of the century talk though.

Chris,

My vintage of the century monkier was probably overblown. From what I have tasted and read, 2004 Piedmont is living up to the hype. As for Brunello, most of the "scandal" was centered around the 2003 vintage, although there seem to still be some who wonder if all of the improprieties were revealed and thus wonder if the 2004s are, in fact, "pure" Sangiovese.

A great resource from an insiders view (albeit he is ITB, winemaker at Il Poggione) is from the Montalcino Report, of which I won't link, as I do not know the rules of such behavior on this site. Anyway, he has a post on there from mid December speaking to additional monitoring procedures to avoid another "scandal". It ties in with the whole grey market issue and his belief against it, etc., etc.

I am less concerned about another vintage marred by blending issues than by a) inconsistent quality and b) ever increasing prices based on superior vintage speculation.

I too, would defer to others for more info, however, as I am no expert.

Kevin, no problem with links - if it is information that benefits the forum as a whole, we welcome it!

[Kevin Klym]

Sweet, so here it is:

http://www.montalcinoreport.com/

Pretty good reading, IMO

I assumed this board was a bit more flexible than, um, "other boards", but thought I would err on the safe side. I'm all about information/knowledge exchange as well!

[Yoni O v a d i a]

Sweet, so here it is:

http://www.montalcinoreport.com/

Pretty good reading, IMO

I assumed this board was a bit more flexible than, um, "other boards", but thought I would err on the safe side. I'm all about information/knowledge exchange as well!

Thanks for this, it looks like an interesting read.

FYI - for those of you who want to click on the link but don't want to be taken away from the site...hold down control and then click on the link. It should open up a new page with the info.

[Todd F r e n c h]

Sweet, so here it is:

http://www.montalcinoreport.com/

Pretty good reading, IMO

I assumed this board was a bit more flexible than, um, "other boards", but thought I would err on the safe side. I'm all about information/knowledge exchange as well!

I'm banning you.

[Kevin Klym]

Sweet, so here it is:

http://www.montalcinoreport.com/

Pretty good reading, IMO

I assumed this board was a bit more flexible than, um, "other boards", but thought I would err on the safe side. I'm all about information/knowledge exchange as well!

I'm banning you.

Sweet, Day 1, that's gotta be a record.

I went back and fixed the link as well. Didn't even think to add the url at first, just typed it in. Should work now.

[Todd F r e n c h]

Sweet, so here it is:

http://www.montalcinoreport.com/

Pretty good reading, IMO

I assumed this board was a bit more flexible than, um, "other boards", but thought I would err on the safe side. I'm all about information/knowledge exchange as well!

I'm banning you.

Sweet, Day 1, that's gotta be a record.

I went back and fixed the link as well. Didn't even think to add the url at first, just typed it in. Should work now.

Wait, I thought you were banned!?

[Rick Smith]

Sweet, so here it is:

http://www.montalcinoreport.com/

Pretty good reading, IMO

I assumed this board was a bit more flexible than, um, "other boards", but thought I would err on the safe side. I'm all about information/knowledge exchange as well!

I'm banning you.

Sweet, Day 1, that's gotta be a record.

I went back and fixed the link as well. Didn't even think to add the url at first, just typed it in. Should work now.

Pfft, I was banned as soon as I registered.

[Jorge Henriquez]

Pfft, I was banned as soon as I registered.

Pffft to you.....T-Bone was BORNED banned.

[Phillip F r a n k s]

I had to jump on the 2004 Cantina del Pino Barbaresco Ovello today. I just don't buy enough Italian.

[Kevin Klym]

I had to jump on the 2004 Cantina del Pino Barbaresco Ovello today. I just don't buy enough Italian.

I did too, and I buy TONS of Italian. This wine will be great (had the 01 and a few early notes on ebob sound positive) and is a pretty good bargain for 04 Piemonte.

[Todd F r e n c h]

Well, thanks to you freaks, I ended up buying 2 bottles of the Cantina del Pino also...

Anyway, today I received my first Garagiste shipment - cheap Southern Rhone stuff.

2006 Puydeval and 2005 Chateau Mas Neuf Compostelle

I'll crack one of them this weekend, perhaps.

[Paul L i n]

My vintage of the century monkier was probably overblown. From what I have tasted and read, 2004 Piedmont is living up to the hype. As for Brunello, most of the "scandal" was centered around the 2003 vintage, although there seem to still be some who wonder if all of the improprieties were revealed and thus wonder if the 2004s are, in fact, "pure" Sangiovese.

piedmonte was much stronger than tuscany in 2004. in 2005, they were both uniformly good. and tuscany will be the shining star in 2006. i don't really have the budget for a lot of italian wine, as pricey as they are, so i have implemented the plan of buying only 2004 barolo/barbaresco and 2006 brunello going forward. with any luck, however, garagiste will offer some older italians at good prices for current consumption.

[Cris Whetstone]

I posted a note on the 2003 Vignalta Monte Rey Syrah
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=408

[Yoni O v a d i a]

Anybody bite on this?

1969 Pousse d'Or “Clos des Soixante Ouvrées" Volnay - $684.70

I only bought 3 cases worth since money's tight nowadays...

[Todd F r e n c h]

Anybody bite on this?

1969 Pousse d'Or “Clos des Soixante Ouvrées" Volnay - $684.70

I only bought 3 cases worth since money's tight nowadays...

They gave me a 6 case maximum.

All in.

[Cris Whetstone]

Posted another note in WT.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=480

[Yoni O v a d i a]

Anyone biting on the 2006 Pegau for $49.99? I would love to, but can't at the moment.

[Todd F r e n c h]

No Pegau for me, but it is tempting. I think it might end up available for less than that later, honestly, since the '07's are coming out, and almost no '06's seem to have sold.

I'm cracking 2005 Château Mas Neuf Costières-de-Nîmes Compostelle - a Garagiste (cheap) purchase. $18 is more my speed nowadays.

[Otto Dobre]

Price is $59.99. Our own Don Cornutt posted some super notes on this wine. I've had some past vintages and I love it.

Otto

[Todd F r e n c h]

Yeah, saw that one, and was quite tempted. I've been sticking to their under $20 buys more lately, however...

[Andrew Hall]

I resisted the Bouchard champers y'day, but did grab two Galardi today. I am only strong on alternate days.

A.

[Josh Beck]

This was a no brainer for me. I actually emailed them a couple of weeks ago to ask if they'd be offering the 06 Terra di Lavoro, as it sounds like a strong vintage, I love the wine, and I figured they'd have a great price, if not the best price we're likely to see, on the wine.

[BLittle]

i was wondering if there was going to be a Garagiste thread on this site... it was one of my favorites before it was locked... Should this be in another forum since it is retail?

as for this offering, tempting, but I've cut way back from the Great Enabler

[Ken V]

This was a no brainer for me. I actually emailed them a couple of weeks ago to ask if they'd be offering the 06 Terra di Lavoro, as it sounds like a strong vintage, I love the wine, and I figured they'd have a great price, if not the best price we're likely to see, on the wine.

I have seen this offered repeatedly for $75-85, but I have resisted.

This price is irresistible!

[Josh Beck]

They had the best prices I found on the 04 as well. Experience the past few years has shown that this wine invariably gets discounted / direct imported for far less than the MSRP (which is ~90-100, no?). I paid $60 for the 04, $66 for the 05, and now $60 for the 06. Seems to me it's a $60-$70 wine.

[Andrew Hall]

This was a no brainer for me. I actually emailed them a couple of weeks ago to ask if they'd be offering the 06 Terra di Lavoro, as it sounds like a strong vintage, I love the wine, and I figured they'd have a great price, if not the best price we're likely to see, on the wine.

I have seen this offered repeatedly for $75-85, but I have resisted.

This price is irresistible!

Evidently even Antonio couldn't resist either! TFF.

A.

[mike.m]

I picked up a few bottles of the 03 at $20 per from a distributor closeout. I tried to get more and some of the 02 but thet had ghost inventory showing.

How long should I wait on the 03? I only have 2 bottles and I would like to drink them close to their prime, even if that means waiting.

The one time I had it it was pretty damn tannic (but tasty!)

[Ed Murray]

I picked up a few bottles of the 03 at $20 per from a distributor closeout. I tried to get more and some of the 02 but thet had ghost inventory showing.

How long should I wait on the 03? I only have 2 bottles and I would like to drink them close to their prime, even if that means waiting.

The one time I had it it was pretty damn tannic (but tasty!)

Love this wine, haven't tried the '06.

I plan to wait 10 years for my '03's, assuming I can hold out. CellarTracker! shows a start date of 2017. How long can you wait?

OMG! I just said CellarTracker!!!!