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I figure he throws those names out there for a reason..But it sure is tempting. Still, the text was a bit hyperbolic for my taste.
ITB: Winemaker @ Random Wine Com
I'm also a gambler by nature and always looking out for a great deal. Plus I was just in the warehouse last week picking up a case, and they a bunch of great stuff on the shelves. So I went for 1 ticket for a $250 case. So we'll see. It will probably be a bunch of stuff I don't care for that adds up to $260 in value. haha
I took a flyer on a $600 case. I can taste all of that '89 Haut Brion now...
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I was pleased with my $250 case a couple years ago. Got some interesting whites I would never try on my own--exactly what I wanted. The big score was an '03 ducru. Put in for a $600 this year...I think I could have a gambling problem if I lived in Vegas..
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm looking for too. I'm too new to wine and still lacking experience with a large variety of styles. Something like this is a good way to get interesting things that I wouldn't have tried on my own.
I'm at the point where I hate Zimmerman. $40 mystery burgundy.
I deleted it, to me, $40 is too much to play games with.
ITB: Winemaker @ Random Wine Com
No mention of how the "revered vineyards" are classified - which probably means that these are village wines.
Did you catch that it's two different mystery wines being sent at random? Odd.
I'm guessing Jadot GC or VR lieux dits and some 1er cru.
I'm guessing another massive fail from Garagiste.
Maybe a fail from our perspective, but I'm willing to bet he makes bank on these offers. Certainly not a fail for his business.
He only makes bank if he either has a big margin (i.e. the wine is sharply discounted to him, likely for a reason), or he sells a ton of it. I generally think his business model blends the two strategies, with the added spin of hilariously prosaic sales pitches.
What's with this?
"I was given the option of offered one at a time, but that would have forced the use of a Kinko's label – if I agreed to mix them up at random, I was allowed to show you the exact label/bottle"
Could there possibly be yet unlabeled '07s? Would anyone at all buy an unlabeled/made up label Burgundy for more than $10?
On s'en bat les couilles
I dont think the few of us wine geeks on WB even remotely put a dent in his business model. I believe I read that his email list is 120,000+ strong.
And they sell $30 - 40 million of wine a year. The bashing on this board is meaningless to him.
Apparently, I am in on a $250 garage sale case. I'll report back on it in about four months, when I actually find out what's in it.
Perhaps he feels a little down as he reads our smack talk on his tabled in his Gulfstream on the way to a local airport in a little known wine region in france where he may or may not spill a little known varietal on his Brioni suit and Hermes tie.
Poor bastard. I'm sure his self esteem is crushed.
At least once a year this dude's Prum e-mail makes me forget all of the dogshit he offers during the other 364 days.
I still haven't gotten a reply. I wonder if I got shut out? We'll see...
My buddy and I each put in for 1 $250 and 1 $600 case. We both ended up with just the $600 case. I'll post my haul when it comes in.
Last time, I got a $250 and ended with about 3.5x value, so it was a no-brainer to try for it again. Some real exceptional juice, and a great adventure in the process; for me, it's the combination of the exploration and the value that makes it worth it.
I got no reply regarding my Mystery Case. Guessing I am out.
I'll be interested to hear what your case includes, though I'd really love to hear from a larger number of people who went in on these - maybe we could get past anecdotal and closer to statistical data.
CT - Prof B
Do you have a link to the article?
The latest from Garagiste:
UPDATE: Garage Sale
Just a quick UPDATE that all the winning Garage Sale tickets have been mailed out (emailed). If you received one, great! If not, try again next time! To ease the angst of missing out, we have something coming up in a few weeks that could prove to be even more interesting – stay tuned.
In the end, we had nearly 100,000 submissions for only a few hundred available cases, so the odds were really tiny. To be fair, everyone had the same chance, it was all a matter of digging into a hat and pulling out tickets – old fashioned but fair.
Thanks again to all who participated – we’re already looking forward to the next time (2014?)!
So I guess I was really lucky...or not. We'll see this fall. It will make for an interesting package, if nothing else.
None for me. That's fine as I think I'll try the suggestion to do the same at my local wine shop. Then I can compare what I get to what y'all get in your mystery cases.
put in for a $250 case and a $600 case...got a $600 case, will share contents when it arrives.
Ditto-Got a $600 case as well, also tried for a $1500 case.....we shall see, Wine gambling.....combines two of my favorite hobbies.
Long time lurker, first time poster. Regarding Garagiste, out of all the wine i received from them, i can say i only enjoyed two bottles and both were mystery wines. The Ramey larkmead cabernet was the best and the Nicholas Cole Camille was pretty good. But for the most part, i have been disappointed in the wines I received and the fact that my requests for bottles got declined as frequently as they did due to sell out even when i placed the order seconds after receiving the offer. I did enjoy the olive oils and vinegars they offered but that was not enough to keep me on the list. I received my last shipment this past spring and cut the cord and couldn't be happier. Zimmerman is a heck of a creative writer and i bit on many offers that i did not share his opinion with. The customer service was always very good and they did try to make me (the customer) happy when i asked to be removed from the list by offering up some of John's personal stash. Hopefully those that get the mystery cases get rewarded with some of those special bottles.
I find it interesting how many people diss Garagiste, while I on the other hand have been pretty pleased overall with my experience, and expect to have a relationship with them in the future as long as they stick to what they're doing.
I have been a customer for 5 years. In that time I have made 212 purchases for 859 bottles at just under $20,000; about 1 buy every 9 days for 4-ish bottles at an average price of $22.67. I usually do a quick 5-minute lookup of each offering I'm interested in, checking out WS/WA/IWC notes as well as Cellartracker community notes; I then try to locate a valid price on the market via Winesearcher et al. Sometimes the feedback turns me off, sometimes it excites me, but I NEVER pull the trigger on anything without looking it up, except for the Mystery deals, regardless of the price; because I'm in front of a computer all day, I reply quickly, and so I rarely get denied (only once so far in 5 years). Sometimes there is absolutely no information to be found, so it's a gamble, and I'm more unlikely to buy in those instances, but I still do occasionally if the prose hits my sweet spot, especially if the price seems reasonable. I have pulled the trigger on about half the Mystery deals, and while the occasional clunker arrives (Script and Seal), for the most part I think it's been a very positive experience, with solid value and frequently very good value.
I have consumed 60% of my purchases so far, and am holding a number still for their drinking window to arrive, or just collecting. I would say the vast bulk of my buys are in the $15-30 range, always with an eye towards value; gotta pay for shipping after all, and who doesn't like a good wine on sale?
I haven't found a vendor yet that is perfect, including Full Pull and others, but for the most part Garagiste has been good to me and good FOR me; and they ship to Texas at the right time of year (unlike Lot18 and some others, who cook the wine shipping it in mid-summer). Now that I have a good amount of wine on hand, I'm content to wait for the shipping season, and early Christmas arrives when a number of cases show up on my doorstep!
I am in same boat as you but have cut way back recently trying to drink down cellar a bit. Definitely was educational the last 4 or 5 years trying different offerings from Garagiste and no snafus in billing or deliveries here. I am a glass half full kind of guy though so ymmv.
blah blah, can't tell you anything but varietal.
Mistakenly(?) gives away that it's a WA wine with the item number:
On your mark.....get set .....delete
I find it very disconcerting that I researched 'Anton Zimmermann' (for the offering today, '01 Anton Zimmermann Bernkastel-Kueser Weisenstein Riesling Auslese) on WB and found only some mentions of Zimmermann on the Washington Nationals thread. And this is a wine forum??
I drink Champagne when I win, to celebrate…and I drink Champagne when I lose, to console myself. ~ Napoleon Bonaparte
Or it's the search function...