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Something is attacking my basil. Could this be the culprit?

Post #1  Postby mike pobega » July 21st 2012, 5:01am

After 5 years of successfully doing my own basil on the deck I have encountered an issue. My leaves are brown and dying at a high rate of speed. Some of the stems are brown but not dead and I found this bugger in there last night (and a few family members). Anyone have thoughts? I have not turned to the interweb other than this post yet.

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Post #2  Postby Dennis Atick » July 21st 2012, 6:30am

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Post #3  Postby mike pobega » July 21st 2012, 6:47am

Thanks! Seems to be a simple caterpillar, soon to be a butterfly.
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Post #4  Postby Brian Tuite » July 21st 2012, 8:28am

Gopher ate all my basil yesterday. [soap.gif] I can't wait for this growing season to end.
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Post #5  Postby Ted Erfer » July 22nd 2012, 7:49pm

Just grind it into your pesto. Will certainly add some tang.
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Post #6  Postby Randy Bowman » July 22nd 2012, 7:59pm

Brian Tuite wrote:Gopher ate all my basil yesterday. [soap.gif] I can't wait for this growing season to end.


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Post #7  Postby Paul Bacino » July 23rd 2012, 11:31am

Very Possible.. I get them on my Lovage and Parsley plant, but mine just eats the leaves.. not causing much damage to the stems.
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Post #8  Postby Mark.Ricca » July 23rd 2012, 11:32am

Usually it's Japanese Beetles or slugs.
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Post #9  Postby Paul Bacino » July 23rd 2012, 1:06pm

BTW.. they turn into beautiful Bugs!!

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Post #10  Postby Brian Gilp » July 24th 2012, 4:48am

I doubt it's the catepillar, they generally just eat the leaves but are not responsible for browning of leaves or stems. That is generally something feeding on the fluids of the plant. Where I am its leaf hoppers but they have come and gone as far as their attacks on my basil this year. With leaf hoppers, the plants first look like they need water even if they have plenty. The stalks turn brown and woody and then eventually the whole plant turns brown and dies. I now plant 2X the number of plants I need since I get about a 50% survival rate.
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Post #11  Postby gene keenan » July 24th 2012, 9:16am

mike pobega wrote:After 5 years of successfully doing my own basil on the deck I have encountered an issue. My leaves are brown and dying at a high rate of speed. Some of the stems are brown but not dead and I found this bugger in there last night (and a few family members). Anyone have thoughts? I have not turned to the interweb other than this post yet.

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It depends on what the other symptoms are but it could be either insect, soil borne virus or even over watering but I doubt that its the latter. Do you water from above? What time of the day? Basil leaves will brown and scorch if watered in the heat of the day from above. If it's a disease then I'd get rid of the soil, sterilize and start from scratch. I plant basil once a month during the season to keep a fresh supply of pre flowering basil leaves.

Without seeing photos it's hard to say what the possible issue is.
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Post #12  Postby mike pobega » July 24th 2012, 9:24am

Thanks for the info. I thinks its the watering issue. we have had 4 heat waves and watering might not have been at optimal times of day.
When is the best? Watering from above bad instead of just watering the soil? great stuff here. Thanks
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Post #13  Postby Paul Bacino » July 24th 2012, 9:28am

I always water from the bottom.. at PM dusk is best for maximum water absorption in the leaves..
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Post #14  Postby Ken V » July 24th 2012, 9:58am

Maybe you have phylloxera? [dance-clap.gif]
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Post #15  Postby Bruce Hubbard » July 24th 2012, 1:07pm

Mike, the picture is of the black swallowtail (Papilio polyxenes) caterpillar, common on parsley, dill, fennel, and sometimes basil. I doubt that it is the culprit since it only chews leaves. I grow basil each summer, quite well, in very large pots on my deck. This year they have been plagued with a brownish dust-like covering that appears on the undersides of the older leaves first, but soon results in the demise of the entire plant. It appears to be a fungus, but I have not looked at it under the microscope yet. It has been very frustrating watching my mature, ready for pesto, plants fade away. I have been afraid to eat it, fearing some wheat-rust like LSD-25 effects from my pesto. All of the new plants I have put in have been rapidly infected and not even grown much. I have not had this problem in previous years and our summer weather has not been significantly different. It has not infected any other of my herbs. I shall check it out further and post if I find out anything. Does this sound like the affliction on your basil? Anybody else experience anything like this?
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Post #16  Postby Paul Bacino » July 24th 2012, 1:13pm

Nope!! I have both Pot Basil and garden( all looks good now )..
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Post #17  Postby mike pobega » July 24th 2012, 3:26pm

Bruce Hubbard wrote:Mike, the picture is of the black swallowtail (Papilio polyxenes) caterpillar, common on parsley, dill, fennel, and sometimes basil. I doubt that it is the culprit since it only chews leaves. I grow basil each summer, quite well, in very large pots on my deck. This year they have been plagued with a brownish dust-like covering that appears on the undersides of the older leaves first, but soon results in the demise of the entire plant. It appears to be a fungus, but I have not looked at it under the microscope yet. It has been very frustrating watching my mature, ready for pesto, plants fade away. I have been afraid to eat it, fearing some wheat-rust like LSD-25 effects from my pesto. All of the new plants I have put in have been rapidly infected and not even grown much. I have not had this problem in previous years and our summer weather has not been significantly different. It has not infected any other of my herbs. I shall check it out further and post if I find out anything. Does this sound like the affliction on your basil? Anybody else experience anything like this?


Thanks for the explanation, Bruce. It does sound like my issue. Leaves are brownish, older go first. I have pruned the dead/brown leaves, but it does not seem to fix as it returns quickly. I may dump and try once more.
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Post #18  Postby RL Joy » August 20th 2012, 3:05pm

It's "Basil Downy Mildew". We just lost the rest of our basil to it. It's fairly new, hard to control, not poisonous to humans, but not a good thing to eat. Google it.
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Post #19  Postby mike pobega » August 20th 2012, 3:31pm

Thanks. Looks about right.
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