TNs: "What Says Napa to You?" eBob Offline with Antonio Galloni

“WHAT SAYS NAPA TO YOU?” EBOB OFFLINE WITH ANTONIO GALLONI - PRESS Restaurant, St. Helena, California (4/21/2011)


Antonio Galloni

I’m not really a Napa guy. Big, high-powered and often oaky Napa Cabs are just not my thing, both because they’re bad matches with food and because I prefer the balanced, elegant Napa Cabs of the '70s and early '80s, before Parker’s ratings and influence turned the vast majority of them into super ripe, concentrated, high alcohol, steroid monsters. Of course I’m not a fan of the Wine Advocate either these days, although I’m willing to give Antonio Galloni a chance, given his track record with his Piedmont Report. Nonetheless, I managed to be included, somehow, in this eBob gathering on the occasion of Antonio’s first visit to Napa since his designation by Robert Parker as his successor to cover California wines, as well as Burgundy and Italy, for the Wine Advocate. I honestly didn’t know it was an eBob offline when I accepted a friend’s kind invitation to come as his guest. As it turned out, Antonio had been to PRESS for a similar blowout, with three or four dozen wines, the previous evening, so how he was able to manage going to the same restaurant for a similar kind of evening the very next day is beyond me. He’s a young guy though. He indicated that, with his young children at home back in New York, he was in Napa for only one week now, and would be back for a two-week trip in October.

The theme of the offline was “bring something that says Napa to you.” Several of us started the evening before dinner at PRESS with a very informative tasting at Rudd with Rudd’s winemaker Patrick Sullivan. We did a very nice flight of the Rudd proprietary red from '05 to '08, and I’m reporting on that tasting separately. (PRESS Restaurant and Rudd Winery, by the way, have the same owner, Leslie Rudd.) Not counting those Rudd wines that were brought along to dinner (that I tasted before dinner), and recognizing I may have missed two or three other bottles that floated between the three tables of us during the course of the evening, I count 33 bottles that I took notes on during dinner. Of those, 24 were Cabs or Bordeaux blends. The assembled gang did bring some interesting older wines. Several of our very old bottles, unfortunately, were already over the hill, or otherwise flawed. My WOTN, by far, was the '72 Heitz Martha’s Vineyard, which was still in great shape, and reminded me a lot of the fabulous 1974 Heitz Martha’s Vineyard, which I’ve had on a few occasions. I brought a couple of wines that say Napa to me, and neither of them were Cabs. They were both Syrahs–two of the better ones from Napa, IMHO: Lagier-Meredith and Kongsgaard. For more details on the wines, including my tasting notes, see the flight summaries below.

I wish I could report that I learned more about Antonio, his philosophy or his thoughts so far on California wine at this dinner, but I can’t. Even though we were seated at the same table, there were 22 or more of us there, and Antonio stayed seated in the same spot all evening. He was also engrossed in messages on his smartphone for a good deal of the time, and I was absorbed in tasting as many of our wines as I could before bottles ran out. So other than introducing ourselves, and my asking him about his stay here and his family, I really didn’t gain any wine-related insights from Antonio on this occasion. He seems like a good natured and likeable guy, if not particularly outgoing. I do wish him well in what seems like an enormous vinous territory to cover now. Since proper coverage of that territory will presumably involve a lot of travel, I expect it will be rather hard on him, as a young father with very young children at home.

White Wines

Since the theme was Napa, most attendees apparently didn’t think white wines said “Napa” to them. The Mondavi Sauvignon Blanc from To Kalon, however, was a good choice. I can’t find any information on the B Block. I know it’s not the I-Block, where the very old vine To Kalon Sauv Blanc vines are. Nonetheless, it was quite tasty and holding up well for an eight-year-old Sauv Blanc. It was nearly as good as the '08 Robert Mondavi Fume Blanc Reserve To-Kalon that I tasted two weeks before. The 17-year-old Stony Hill Riesling was hanging in there, although it lacked the acidity I expect from Stony Hill.

Older Wines




As mentioned above, the best wine I tasted at this gathering was the youthful and delicious 1972 Heitz Martha’s Vineyard. The 1992 Dunn Napa was also quite good, and mature at this point. The 1992 Philip Togni was also mature and good. The NV Christian Brothers Cabernet Select, pictured above, which was probably harvested in either 1964 or 1965, was hanging in there, surprisingly. The 1964 Charles Krug was also hanging on, although not as great as Charles Krugs I’ve had from the early '70s. The '78 Mondavi Reserve was nowhere near as good as a bottle I’d tried just two weeks before and written about here, as this bottle was much more advanced than the prior one. On the dead and dying side were our 1969 Mondavi Cab, and both the 1970 and 1975 Beaulieu Georges de Latour Private Reserve (which were quite good when I tried them from well stored bottles a few years back). The 1978 Diamond Creek Gravelly Meadow was okay, on the dark and brooding side, but seemingly still in a transitional state. I wasn’t surprised at all that our 1935 Simi Carignane was dead and flawed, but it would have been exciting had there still been something to it.

Younger Wines

On to the baby reds. The best of this bunch, for me, were the Syrahs, including the two I brought, and Alan Rath’s '99 Lagier Meredith. The best of the Cabs or Meritages for me in this grouping was the '99 Pride Claret–very plush, with resolved tannins–and the 2002 Detert Cab, with its silky texture and integrated oak. I rated both 92+ points, as I did the stray, non-Napa, '06 Rhys Alpine Pinot. Also good were the '97 Pride Cab Reserve and the '07 Dominus. Others were young and okay, but not exciting. Disappointing were the '02 Bond, with its murky nose and expensive oak palate; the very simple '01 Blankiet Cab Paradise Hills; and the seemingly heavily American oaked '97 Lokoya Howell Mountain.

  • 1997 Cardinale Red Wine - USA, California, Napa Valley
    Opaque red violet color; ripe plum nose; ripe plum, berry palate with sweet, soft tannins; medium finish (89 pts.)
  • 1997 Pride Mountain Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon Reserve - USA, California, Napa Valley
    Opaque purple red violet color; ripe plum, berry nose; plush, plum, berry palate with balance; medium-plus finish (92 pts.)
  • 1997 Lokoya Cabernet Sauvignon Howell Mountain - USA, California, Napa Valley, Howell Mountain
    Very dark red violet color; plum, dill nose; plush plum, dill, American oak palate; medium-plus finish (88 pts.)
  • 1999 Pride Mountain Vineyards Reserve Claret - USA, California, Napa Valley
    Very dark red violet color; mature, plum, herbal nose; plush, soft, tasty, ripe plum, cassis palate with resolved tannins; medium-plus finish 92+ points (92 pts.)
  • 1999 Lagier Meredith Syrah - USA, California, Napa Valley, Mt. Veeder
    Very dark purple red violet color; rich, baked plum, spice, deep, roasted plum nose; tasty, tart roasted plum, red plum, herbs palate; medium-plus finish (94 pts.)
  • 2001 Merus Cabernet Sauvignon - USA, California, Napa Valley
    Opaque red violet color; black fruit, chocolate nose; rich, plum, chocolate, black fruit palate; medium-plus finish (90 pts.)
  • 2001 Blankiet Estate Cabernet Sauvignon Paradise Hills Vineyard - USA, California, Napa Valley
    From magnum - opaque purple red violet color; maturing, plum, berry nose; simple, berry, plum palate; medium finish (87 pts.)
  • 2002 Bond St. Eden - USA, California, Napa Valley
    Opaque purple red violet color; plum, murky nose; smooth, plum, oak, coffee, caramel palate with plush tannins; medium-plus finish (89 pts.)
  • 2002 Robert Foley Claret - USA, California, Napa Valley
    Opaque red violet color; oaky, caramel, berry nose; soft, berry, caramel, plush palate with low acidity; medium finish (90 pts.)
  • 2002 Detert Family Vineyards Cabernet Sauvignon Oakville - USA, California, Napa Valley, Oakville
    Opaque purple red violet color; lavender, plum, berry nose; tasty, silky textured, cassis, plum, plush, integrated oak palate; medium-plus finish 92+ points (92 pts.)
  • 2005 Kongsgaard Syrah - USA, California, Napa Valley
    Opaque red violet color; strong green herb, smoke, red plum nose; velvet textured, intense, plush, tart black fruit, green herb palate; long finish (94 pts.)
  • 2005 Futo - USA, California, Napa Valley, Oakville
    Opaque red violet color; oak, plum nose; plush, plum, oak palate; medium-plus finish 90+ points (90 pts.)
  • 2005 Lagier Meredith Syrah - USA, California, Napa Valley, Mt. Veeder
    Roasted plum nose; tasty, mature, tart plum, green herb, black fruit palate; medium-plus finish 93+ points (93 pts.)
  • 2006 Rhys Pinot Noir Alpine Vineyard - USA, California, San Francisco Bay, Santa Cruz Mountains
    Tart red fruit, herbal nose; tart red fruit, herbal, green herb palate; medium-plus finish 92+ points (92 pts.)
  • 2007 Dominus Estate - USA, California, Napa Valley
    Very dark red violet color; plush, berry, beets, herbaceous nose; plush, rich, cassis, ripe plum palate; medium-plus finish (92 pts.)
  • 2007 Emerson Brown Cabernet Sauvignon - USA, California, Napa Valley
    Opaque purple red violet color; rich, red plum, oak nose; tight, plush, oak, plum palate; medium finish (89 pts.)
  • 2007 Tofanelli Family Charbono Tofanelli Vineyard - USA, California, Napa Valley
    Opaque red violet color; sweet green herb, black fruit nose; tight, plush, sweet green herb, ripe black fruit, oak palate; medium finish (88 pts.)
  • 2009 SonkinCellars Persona White Hawk/Alder Springs - USA, California
    Opaque red violet color; red plum, carbonic maceration nose; lush, plum, black fruit palate with a sense of carbonic maceration; needs 2-3 years; medium-plus finish (90 pts.)

Sweet Wine
I’ve had other vintages of this Beringer artificially botrytised sweet that have had a little more acid. This had maturity going for it, but not enough acidity and complexity. Myron Nightingale was Beringer’s winemaker from 1971 to 1984, and he and his wife Alice spent decades developing their method for making a Sauternes style wine. The grapes are picked fully ripe and the whole clusters are placed in a layer on small trays. The clusters are then sprayed with pure Botrytis cinerea spores. The temperature and humidity are controlled until the botrytis takes hold in the fruit, after 30 hours or more. The humidity is then lowered so that the grapes dehydrate. After about two weeks, the grapes are gently pressed and the juice put into small French oak barrels for fermentation and aging.

Interesting theme.
Thanks for the notes and write up.

Wow.

Richard, nice notes as usual. What were your thoughts on the Rudd wines? I was at a Rudd tasting in Telluride a couple of years ago and we drank younger Rudd wines…most of them were so big, tannic and oaky they were undrinkable.

I have had the '72 Martha’s a few months ago (at Press actually) and it is all that. Your notes are spot on and I think it can easily age another 10 years.

Agreed on 72 Martha’s for sure. Great wine. Crazy you had a 35 Simi, we opened one the night before, too, at Press with Antonio, but ours was really low fill, and it was terrible. Quite a coincidence though. Surprised you din’t like 78 DC RRT more. Thanks for the writeup!

Nice notes. Was this event something you had to pay to be in with Antonio? I would be kind of mad if he was on his smartphone all night unless it was some kind of emergency. Strikes me as kind of rude. Even in the picture above it looks like he is on it. If it was just a casual gathering obviously that is different.

Interested in seeing the Rudd notes.

Sounds like a great event. I appreciate the notes on the 92’s (my wedding year) as I have some of those in the cellar. It would be pretty cool to do an older Napa tasting like that. Obviously, the Heitz was off the charts, but it looks like the rest of them were more interesting/very good than great. Still, sounds like a real treat!

I have been looking at me lone bottle of Futo. Although I see you liked it, at the price point (north of $200), I can see that being disappointing as it has been since release. Do you think time will help?

(Glad you enjoyed our SonkinCellars wine! Did Barry open this? FYI-but I suspect those CM notes (if I understand them) were a combination of only 1/3 new oak and a longer extended maceration than typical rather than CM. The wine did not go thru carbonic maceration. )

Richard,

My hat is off to you and everyone who can get through a tasting with so many big wines.

As we all know, when it comes to old wines, it comes down to the individual bottle.

Richard, at Carl’s birthday dinner last month, Rich G. brought '70 BV Reserve. It was make-your-socks-roll-up-and-down superb. David Russell and I looked at each other and couldn’t stop grinning and laughing. He said it evoked why he and I got so much into wine all those decades ago. I think it was the last wine poured. A good thing because it would’ve been a very hard act to follow.

Thanks for all the responses.
Steve,
I am going to post separately on my blog about the Rudd wines. I think the '06 was quite good, as was the one not released yet, made by the new winemaker, the '08. And the Sauv Blanc is impressive.
Matthew,
No, there was no fee for attending the event–just the usual OL situation of bringing wine and paying for your own dinner.
Loren,
Thanks for the additional info. I do believe Barry brought your wine for us to try. It did have that fruity, lighter sort of nose that I get from wines made with carbonic maceration, but I would have been surprised if you’d actually used CM. I was not impressed with the Futo, and I doubt it’s going to age into something that much more interesting.
Larry,
I’m glad you and our buddies had such a great bottle of ‘70 BV Reserve. Rich’s cellar seems to keep wines in very good condition, and I’ve had a number of old bottles that he’s brought that have shown better than when I’ve tried the same wines out of others’ cellars. I’ve had the '70 BV Reserve myself at least 4 times, and the highest I’ve ever rated it is 88 points. I much prefer other vintages of BV Reserve that I’ve had, but I agree that bottle variation (and storage and all the factors that affect old bottles) is everything at that age.

Richard,

Curious if you ever posted those Rudd notes? Big fan of there wines but the recent price hikes have me on the fence about buying now.

Matthew

Matthew,
I haven’t written it up for my blog as yet, but my TNs and pictures are here on CT: Tasting at Rudd Winery - CellarTracker
–Richard

So glad to see the wines of the evening so well documented… Thank you, Richard. I hope to get to taste with you again soon.

Thanks Richard

I find comments like this annoying. I can certainly respect your dislike of modern Napa cabs (to each his own), and I have no problem with your disliking the WA (many reasons to have a negative opinion of it these days), but to think that wine in Napa is made the way it is today simply because of RP fails to take into consideration so many factors that your comment can only come across as disingenuous.

It ignores the influence of the WS on many non-collectors (who typically have never heard of the WA).
It ignores that wine is made the way it is today because of consumer preference. Critics can only make suggestions as to what is good, but the consumer is not a mindless automaton and will not buy more of a wine simply because a critic says the wine is good.
It ignores that wine is made the way it is today because of winemaker preference (for every example of a winemaker trying to make wine they think RP will like, there are likely 10 who make wine they want to make it).
It ignores that wine that is made today may be to your liking when it is 40 years old, for all you know.

But, perhaps most importantly (and something I only just learned about), it ignores the realities not just of terroir and weather, but of a change in rootstock in Napa (http://dat.erobertparker.com/bboard/showpost.php?p=3013576&postcount=114).

Curtis,
You can link to eBob all you want, but those of us who haven’t paid a subscription can’t read it. It’s now a heavily walled garden.

At any rate, sorry to annoy you with my observations, which I fervently believe, but you seem easily annoyed. Here’s a link that anyone can follow: Enologix - Wikipedia There’s a big following for this company in Napa, which aims to tell winemakers how their wines will score with the likes of Parker, and what they need to do to get those scores, and has a strong track record for doing so. You think it’s just coincidence that California Cabs have gotten big, concentrated, oaky and non-food friendly in the Parker era, when wines like that were rewarded with high scores? I suppose you don’t believe in global warming either. Wine Spectator and James Laube may have played a minor role in the change too, but Parker’s predilections and power over the market had a much greater influence, from all the evidence I can gather. You are welcome to believe whatever you like, of course.

As far as Enologix, I found it highly entertaining to read that notable clients include, “Beaulieu, Cakebread, Diamond Creek, Ridge Vineyards”, none of which make wines in the Parkerized style (indeed, I do not like the tannic, fruit deficient taste of many of their wines). Enologix also makes its recommendations by using profiles of First Growth Bordeaux wine and other high scoring bottles and its models were initially developed for traditional style, taste quality and aging potential.

There are no published data as to how well Enologix does its job, but the theory behind its work is sound, and it merely helps a winemaker structure their wine so it has a theoretical profile of a Bordeaux First Growth and other highly acclaimed wines.

In short, whereas I may be easily annoyed when others make ignorant claims that they represent as incontrovertible fact, you seem to prefer to think there is some big giant conspiracy that is causing wine in Napa to be made in a style you do not like. I therefore repeat that your argument ignores that wine is made the way it is today because of consumer preference. Critics can only make suggestions as to what is good, but the consumer is not a mindless automaton and will not buy more of a wine simply because a critic says the wine is good. If consumers did not like the lush, rich style of young Napa cabernets, they would not buy them. Period.

As far as what was said in the link, it merely points out that the post phylloxera root stock in Napa is dramatically different in that it naturally produces higher quantities of sugar (resulting in higher levels of alcohol) at the same level of physiologic ripeness of pre-phylloxera root stock. In short, winemakers couldn’t make wine the way they used to even if they wanted to. And those that try typically produce weak, tannic, lame-ass wines.

Many consumers drink what they are told is good (i.e. wine reviews). It has been my experience both in retail and service based industries that most consumers overwhelmingly have no idea what they really like in terms of wine styles. In fact I was very guilty of this in my early drinking days, when many of my friends championed the higher octane, “bigger” wines of the late 80s & early 90s. I thought I had to like these wines because everyone else did. Yet it was not until several years later, in the late 90s, that I found my own palate preference and felt confident in my wine choices. Certainly, this may be different for others, but I believe the learning curve is longer than many think. In any case, there are more wine consumers now than ever before and many of these consumers are new to the game. They want wine that is ready to drink now. Do I believe Parker had a huge influence in determining what wineries would produce, many of which are less than 5 years old? Hell yes. Possibly not direct to many of these consumers, but indirectly through retailers and restaurants touting these wines.

Richard certainly has a valid point, though the degree to which Parker (and I personally put Spectator right up there as well) has influenced the direction of style can be debated - and ultimately not known.

But your point, quoted above, I believe misses the fact that consumers DO follow the guidance and recommendations of critics. On at least one occasion I have sat in restaurants and overheard a table ask the waiter for “butter, oaky Chardonnay.” That can only have come from following a critic (in this case Spectator, since they have over the years given big scores to that style of wine).

All this is a sidebar to Richard’s report. I also attended the dinner, and need to put my notes in CT to post.
Cheers