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by Keith Levenberg
January 16th, 2020, 9:07 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Australian ooze-monster wines. How are they now?
Replies: 122
Views: 8839

Re: Australian ooze-monster wines. How are they now?

Or Jay Miller did, anyway. Wasn't it he who went wild with the Aussie points rather than Parker? Parker gave high ratings to them but it was the other Jay Miller who generally went +5 on all Parker ratings. First time I tried any of these was the 2001 Marquis Philips which Parker had rated 93 / 96 ...
by Keith Levenberg
January 16th, 2020, 7:24 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: K & L Auctions
Replies: 27
Views: 2506

Re: K & L Auctions

I buy a fair amount and while they’re great, it’s still auction sourcing. Having said that, the one time I got a lot of poxed Chablis, I mentioned it to them (in case other people had similar problems with the consignor) not expecting anything and they gave me a credit. Quality establishment. Why w...
by Keith Levenberg
January 13th, 2020, 7:14 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Kerin O'Keefe on Barolo 2016
Replies: 37
Views: 3096

Re: Kerin O'Keefe on Barolo 2016

Kerin defines the vintage a modern day classic. https://kerinokeefe.com/barolo-2016-modern-day-classic/ It will be a battle getting some of the good names without getting broke nah, there is a ceiling on how vulnerable Piedmont can be to price appreciation, barring unusual events like a $50 wine hy...
by Keith Levenberg
January 11th, 2020, 8:36 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Whats your top 5 Clos saint denis?
Replies: 63
Views: 3396

Re: Whats your top 5 Clos saint denis?

Lots of great CSD out there - underrated grand cru, to the extent such a thing exists. Stephane Magnien and Pascal Marchand are top notch examples that haven't been mentioned yet.
by Keith Levenberg
December 20th, 2019, 11:42 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 2008 red burgundy premier cru..... sucks
Replies: 66
Views: 5101

Re: 2008 red burgundy premier cru..... sucks

Fourrier's 2008s weren't very good on release and I'd have to imagine they're not gonna be any better now. But there were other '08s that seemed real nice on release that advanced in an unfriendly way on a much faster track than I would have expected. It does have me worried. 1996 has always seemed ...
by Keith Levenberg
December 12th, 2019, 6:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Louis Jadot Clos St. Denis - Domaine Gagey versus Negociant bottlings
Replies: 50
Views: 2483

Re: Louis Jadot Clos St. Denis - Domaine Gagey versus Negociant bottlings

Both domaine wines, just a different chain-of-title into the portfolio.
by Keith Levenberg
December 12th, 2019, 7:13 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Louis Jadot Clos St. Denis - Domaine Gagey versus Negociant bottlings
Replies: 50
Views: 2483

Re: Louis Jadot Clos St. Denis - Domaine Gagey versus Negociant bottlings

Tom, that seems pretty extreme to blame Jadot for the ambiguity generated by retailers' e-commerce sites - Jadot, for its part, could not possibly be clearer about what's in the bottle. All the Domaine wines say so right on the label and carry the "recolte, elevage, et mis en bouteille" legend to di...
by Keith Levenberg
December 10th, 2019, 7:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Natural Wines with age - a tasting (Leroy, Anglore, Ganevat, Lapierre,...)
Replies: 23
Views: 1637

Re: Natural Wines with age - a tasting (Leroy, Anglore, Ganevat, Lapierre,...)

No doubt many unsulfured wines were sold mainly at home because importers were afraid of dealing with them, and yes Overnoy has been unsulfured forever. Lapierre of course made both the S and N cuvees - it's only recently the latter goes into the supply chain here in any quantity; it used to be the ...
by Keith Levenberg
December 9th, 2019, 4:41 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?
Replies: 247
Views: 4931

Re: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?

Drinking now
by Keith Levenberg
December 9th, 2019, 2:23 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?
Replies: 247
Views: 4931

Re: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?

Alfert doesn't have to cover the Montrachet, he just has to start complying with the subpoenas to show up
by Keith Levenberg
December 9th, 2019, 2:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Natural Wines with age - a tasting (Leroy, Anglore, Ganevat, Lapierre,...)
Replies: 23
Views: 1637

Re: Natural Wines with age - a tasting (Leroy, Anglore, Ganevat, Lapierre,...)

If you will take my magic carpet ride for just a moment, as a style , Lapierre is structured much like a conventional Morgon. If no one told you, you would not likely suddenly say, "ya know, I bet this is one of them done dair natural wines everyone in tarnation is jabbering on about". Yeah, but mo...
by Keith Levenberg
December 9th, 2019, 11:33 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?
Replies: 247
Views: 4931

Re: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?

Grange des Peres
by Keith Levenberg
December 9th, 2019, 11:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?
Replies: 247
Views: 4931

Re: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?

This thread is so surreal. It's like my high school art history exams, but actually knowing the answers. I dunno, Keith, haven’t seen you answering Post 50. ;) Granted, you are only rich, not snobby and pretentious. Well, at least not pretentious. If you answer within 15 minutes, next Bern’s dinner...
by Keith Levenberg
December 9th, 2019, 10:03 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?
Replies: 247
Views: 4931

Re: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?

This thread is so surreal. It's like my high school art history exams, but actually knowing the answers.
by Keith Levenberg
December 9th, 2019, 8:06 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Dunnuck Top 100 2019
Replies: 50
Views: 4649

Re: Dunnuck Top 100 2019

Paul Jaouen wrote:
December 5th, 2019, 7:54 am
I think one of the reviewers should post their Bottom 100 list. We could have a lot of fun with that.
All of their 91-point wines
by Keith Levenberg
December 9th, 2019, 8:02 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?
Replies: 247
Views: 4931

Re: Wine Games: Who’s the producer?

Mikko R wrote:
December 8th, 2019, 11:07 pm
well how about this rare stuff
Gonon Chasselas
by Keith Levenberg
December 9th, 2019, 7:58 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Natural Wines with age - a tasting (Leroy, Anglore, Ganevat, Lapierre,...)
Replies: 23
Views: 1637

Re: Natural Wines with age - a tasting (Leroy, Anglore, Ganevat, Lapierre,...)

Pretty much all of them! It just wasn't the thing people were fixated on. I think the main issue is that the people who first developed and championed these wines were trying to distinguish themselves from overly processed/treated wines - they weren't trying to out-natural each other . So the focus ...
by Keith Levenberg
December 6th, 2019, 1:02 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Natural Wines with age - a tasting (Leroy, Anglore, Ganevat, Lapierre,...)
Replies: 23
Views: 1637

Re: Natural Wines with age - a tasting (Leroy, Anglore, Ganevat, Lapierre,...)

Natural wine jumped the shark when it became all about sulfur. It didn't used to be that way! Some wines age fine without sulfur, some don't, and I'm not aware of any way of telling which is which on release just by tasting. I am getting a bit tired of pouring once-great wines down the sink, so I'm...
by Keith Levenberg
December 6th, 2019, 6:57 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Natural Wines with age - a tasting (Leroy, Anglore, Ganevat, Lapierre,...)
Replies: 23
Views: 1637

Re: Natural Wines with age - a tasting (Leroy, Anglore, Ganevat, Lapierre,...)

Natural wine jumped the shark when it became all about sulfur. It didn't used to be that way! Some wines age fine without sulfur, some don't, and I'm not aware of any way of telling which is which on release just by tasting. I am getting a bit tired of pouring once-great wines down the sink, so I'm ...
by Keith Levenberg
November 27th, 2019, 12:51 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Mark Squires' BB to close for good - UPDATED (WA sold to Michelin)
Replies: 319
Views: 21117

Re: Mark Squires' BB to close for good - UPDATED (WA sold to Michelin)

Given their insistence on repeating the (grammatically horrendous) brand name "Robert Parker Wine Advocate" a thousand times, I'm surmising Parker's brand value is still pretty strong.
by Keith Levenberg
November 25th, 2019, 11:06 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 15 vs 16 barton
Replies: 13
Views: 1143

Re: 15 vs 16 barton

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
November 23rd, 2019, 3:16 pm
Keith Levenberg wrote:
November 23rd, 2019, 2:59 pm
Current price of the 2016 Barton can also get you the 2000 Barton, which is one of the best the chateau ever made.

I just popped the 2000 a couple weeks ago. While I will not call it best ever,
I hedged! Too soon to tell whether it will beat out the 1926.
by Keith Levenberg
November 23rd, 2019, 2:59 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: 15 vs 16 barton
Replies: 13
Views: 1143

Re: 15 vs 16 barton

Current price of the 2016 Barton can also get you the 2000 Barton, which is one of the best the chateau ever made.
by Keith Levenberg
November 22nd, 2019, 6:57 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Chateau Palmer 2016 for $274, what the what?
Replies: 199
Views: 17294

Re: Chateau Palmer 2016 for $274, what the what?

2010 La Rioja Alta Vina Ardanza gets pretty cheap with the $50 or $100 codes, depending how many you want
by Keith Levenberg
November 22nd, 2019, 6:44 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Barolo: no more need to wait forever and a day
Replies: 86
Views: 4150

Re: Barolo: no more need to wait forever and a day

Possibly nebbiolo is more of a crapshoot in the cellar than other major wines, but I suspect at least part of the variability of old Barolo is not on account of the crapshoot but on account of those older wines just having been flawed from birth - too much unattended time in cask indifferent to intr...
by Keith Levenberg
November 21st, 2019, 2:02 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Barolo: no more need to wait forever and a day
Replies: 86
Views: 4150

Re: Barolo: no more need to wait forever and a day

There's more to "approachable" than not having sandbags of tannin. 10-year-old Barolo may be less aggressively tannic than it used to be, but they are still in the same not-fun-to-drink, in-between period where the initial primary fruit appeal is gone (if it was ever there in the first place) and no...
by Keith Levenberg
November 18th, 2019, 1:28 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are there objectively good and bad wines?
Replies: 100
Views: 3409

Re: Are there objectively good and bad wines?

Good talk:
by Keith Levenberg
November 18th, 2019, 1:22 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Are there objectively good and bad wines?
Replies: 100
Views: 3409

Re: Are there objectively good and bad wines?

Besides, what good is it to me if a wine somehow "objectively" is a 95 point wine and I think subjectively it deserves 75 points. For example, how does one rate SQN or Truchot objectively? Say there is a wine from both that somehow are objectively rated 92.5. Many, many tasters will find that one d...
by Keith Levenberg
November 18th, 2019, 1:11 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Is Corton-Charlemagne as grand a Grand Cru as the others? Please discuss!
Replies: 36
Views: 2122

Re: Is Corton-Charlemagne as grand a Grand Cru as the others? Please discuss!

As others have said, Corton-Charlemagne is more chiseled and mineral, and pulls off that style better than any other site in the Cote - clearly a top grand cru. If you like Chevalier better than Batard, then Corton-Charlemagne is for you. (If you'd probably rather be drinking riesling, then Corton-C...
by Keith Levenberg
November 14th, 2019, 9:01 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: Eight 2016 Barbarescos tasted blind
Replies: 22
Views: 2099

Re: TN: Eight 2016 Barbarescos tasted blind

John, what do you mean by quinine aroma? To my understanding, quinine is a completely odorless compound and hasn't got really any taste of its own, besides the noticeable bitterness. Perhaps that's true, but this smelled like tonic water. Not sure what else is in tonic other than quinine. I get wha...
by Keith Levenberg
November 13th, 2019, 12:13 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: The Insider: Inside New York’s Exclusive Billionaire Wine Tastings
Replies: 20
Views: 2683

Re: The Insider: Inside New York’s Exclusive Billionaire Wine Tastings

Shame the video cut off right before she tears off that fake mustache and he exclaims, "and I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you!..."
by Keith Levenberg
October 25th, 2019, 9:43 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Can any glass geeks identify this glass?
Replies: 8
Views: 784

Re: Can any glass geeks identify this glass?

Hm. Can't decide whether I like it. Handy for the dishwasher but looks almost more like a beer glass.
by Keith Levenberg
October 25th, 2019, 9:36 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers
Replies: 172
Views: 7133

Re: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers

I agree that my preference would be for styrofoam especially when I hear someone like Morgan worry about heat issues with the alternatives. I get plenty of shipments in styrofoam that are not filled with little pieces. Ship in the right weather, and styro does not matter. Ship in the wrong weather,...
by Keith Levenberg
October 25th, 2019, 9:33 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers
Replies: 172
Views: 7133

Re: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers

Hi Aaron and all- all great points here. At WineBid, we're acutely aware of the styro issue. We are looking into alternative packaging that will work as well and be as cost effective, and we are actively attempting to recycle all the styro we can for multiple uses, where appropriate. I guess the qu...
by Keith Levenberg
October 24th, 2019, 9:17 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers
Replies: 172
Views: 7133

Re: Wineries please note - I am sick of styro shippers

Hi Aaron and all- all great points here. At WineBid, we're acutely aware of the styro issue. We are looking into alternative packaging that will work as well and be as cost effective, and we are actively attempting to recycle all the styro we can for multiple uses, where appropriate. I guess the qu...
by Keith Levenberg
October 23rd, 2019, 7:52 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Upright or on its side: A Theory
Replies: 56
Views: 2486

Re: Upright or on its side: A Theory

Try storing some wine long term standing up and you'll see the corks dry out. I can't argue the science but I've seen enough data with my own stuff not to let it happen anymore. I suppose it's something one could do a scientific study on, but it would be better if the wineries mooted the need to car...
by Keith Levenberg
October 19th, 2019, 12:19 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: juge hunter: astor wines edition
Replies: 15
Views: 1226

Re: juge hunter: astor wines edition

Even Verset isn't getting Gentaz prices.
by Keith Levenberg
October 18th, 2019, 8:10 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Zalto Universal vs. Gabriel Gold
Replies: 174
Views: 15167

Re: Zalto Universal vs. Gabriel Gold

I never liked Zalto's angular design. I'm intrigued by the Jancis glass, which basically looks like a Zalto Universal but with a round bowl. Anyone tried it?
by Keith Levenberg
October 18th, 2019, 7:44 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Aglianico
Replies: 65
Views: 2977

Re: Aglianico

Many call aglianico the nebbiolo of the south. Very different profile but the complexity can reach highs. There are aglianico from various southern regions but I find those from Campania to be my preferred. Mastroberardino Radici and Feudi de San Gregario's various offerings. The Vulture are very c...
by Keith Levenberg
October 17th, 2019, 9:05 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: John Fox (PC) Update
Replies: 33
Views: 3695

Re: John Fox (PC) Update

Neal.Mollen wrote:
October 16th, 2019, 9:42 am
There is no parole in the federal system.
No conjugal visits either
by Keith Levenberg
September 30th, 2019, 9:35 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Lots of good, not so much great
Replies: 54
Views: 2014

Re: Lots of good, not so much great

I think I found the problem
Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote:
September 30th, 2019, 5:58 am
California Pinot Noir
by Keith Levenberg
September 29th, 2019, 3:18 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Barolo Sediment
Replies: 113
Views: 4996

Re: Barolo Sediment

You don't have to keep a bottle upright to decant off its sediment. As soon as you start pouring the bottle, you've just put the thing on its side anyway, so what was the point of standing it up for a month? Just take the bottle from the cellar, decant slowly and carefully, and you'll get it off th...
by Keith Levenberg
September 24th, 2019, 7:41 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Do I need to be drinking my Bordeauxs younger?
Replies: 54
Views: 2468

Re: Do I need to be drinking my Bordeauxs younger?

Nah...just had a wonderful ‘62 Latour today. One wine (and a Latour, which has the reputation (deservedly so IMHO) of being the longest lived wine in Bordeaux) proves exactly what? Not much less than the four wines you mentioned. Why would you expect a '79 Bordeaux to be better now than, say, 10 or...
by Keith Levenberg
September 21st, 2019, 5:25 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Burgundy 2019 report
Replies: 29
Views: 4504

Re: Burgundy 2019 report

The grape cluster pics growers have been posting on Facebook this year have been super-porny.
by Keith Levenberg
September 17th, 2019, 8:30 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: A Humble Evening at Bern's, Some Observations, and the Omnipresence of Rolland in My Life
Replies: 72
Views: 5228

Re: A Humble Evening at Bern's, Some Observations, and the Omnipresence of Rolland in My Life

I am pretty sure there are no 1918s left, and the '20s-'40s are now mostly reduced to off-vintages. But some of those off-vintages are still great bottles because the provenance is so good. Note that there are still some wines on the printed list which are no longer available (they can only print th...
by Keith Levenberg
September 15th, 2019, 10:01 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Barolo Sediment
Replies: 113
Views: 4996

Re: Barolo Sediment

Doesn't matter how fine the sediment is, if gravity is capable of settling it on the bottom of the bottle, it's also capable of keeping it on the underside of the bottle when the bottle is in a sideways position being poured. By contrast, if you're worried about disturbing fine sediment, what do you...
by Keith Levenberg
September 15th, 2019, 8:44 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Barolo Sediment
Replies: 113
Views: 4996

Re: Barolo Sediment

Anywhere from zero to a hundred years old or so
by Keith Levenberg
September 15th, 2019, 7:39 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Barolo Sediment
Replies: 113
Views: 4996

Re: Barolo Sediment

Works with any wine. The sediment is perfectly settled on the side of the bottle, which is the bottom of the bottle when the bottle is on its side, which is the position you're pouring from.
by Keith Levenberg
September 15th, 2019, 6:19 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Any recs for lunch in or around Beaune?
Replies: 22
Views: 1305

Re: Any recs for lunch in or around Beaune?

Saturday is market day in Beaune - skip the restaurants and put together some cheese, sausage, pate, etc. for a picnic you'll never forget.
by Keith Levenberg
September 15th, 2019, 5:25 pm
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: Barolo Sediment
Replies: 113
Views: 4996

Re: Barolo Sediment

You don't have to keep a bottle upright to decant off its sediment. As soon as you start pouring the bottle, you've just put the thing on its side anyway, so what was the point of standing it up for a month? Just take the bottle from the cellar, decant slowly and carefully, and you'll get it off the...
by Keith Levenberg
September 15th, 2019, 11:08 am
Forum: Wine Talk
Topic: TN: More Bottom Feeding @ Total Wine...(short/boring)
Replies: 33
Views: 1780

Re: TN: More Bottom Feeding @ Total Wine...(short/boring)

These are terroir wines, you know! They're unique to its appellations! "Crafted by multi-talented winemaker, Allison Crowe for Plata Wine Partners, she has crafted a long-term relationship with the vineyards to craft wines that are unique to its appellations." - https://www.totalwine.com/wine/brand/...

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