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This sounds like a debate that should be settled the scientific /fun way: a horizontal tasting, obviously post-vax. We could call it “Welcome (Back) Bastards”. I’ve had PYCM and Leflaive, both of which are excellent, though stylistically different. I am down. Have some bottles to offer (I’ve been l...

Leflaive for me. When it’s on, it can be sublime. The ‘99 is still the best white Burgundy I’ve had to date. More subtle than the Batard, granted, but that’s not necessarily a weakness. I think that's the strength of BBM as a vineyard, personally! I love BBM generally, since it seems to have such g...

On the younger side I like Leflaive and Carillon. On the older side (say pre 2000s) I like Ramonet

Also can vouch for Shoshana - very knowledgeable, kind, and humble. Has your best interests at heart. It's great having her on the boards.

I also purchase from GRW through her - often unique / hard-to-find wines at good prices.

I have not stored their wines separately, everything I have is somewhat randomly stored together. I kind of mentally remember what is for them, but at some point when I decide to give them their wines (housewarming or wedding gift would be best probably, not when they turn 21), I may search through...

The data comes from the various houses, WMJ, and Live Ex. There is a good quarterly write up on the wine market in the World of Fine Wine. I also personally download data from WMJ and the auction houses after every auction and perform various granular analyses. Is this as a casual observer interest...

m. ristev wrote: ↑January 18th, 2021, 5:42 pm https://www.klwines.com/Auction/Bidding ... earchRank=

this is pretty insane...

this is a pretty cultish wine - though the current level of this sale puts it way above the $478/bottle (inc bp) it fetched back in Sept at HDH.

Worth noting that the grand cru part of Corton was expanded in early 1943 when it looked as if the Germans were going to start compulsory purchases of anything that wasn't classified as superior in the AOC system. A few months later, the idea of creating a "premier cru" AOC was envisioned...

I would think that it is a large part of it. Higher consumption and more money being diverted from my traveling budget have increased my purchasing. Traveling vicariously with regional wine, food recipes, and travel documentaries have been our go to pandemic entertainment. Winebid also seems more a...

But doesn't that also depend on how many lots are put up for auction? Looking at a cost of goods sold doesn't mean much without additional data points. Yes agree. Given the data I’ve seen, lots for sale fell 11% and revenue fell 24%. Grant it, this specific dataset is limited to “live auctions” whi...

With Winebid I always wonder how many of us (Berserkers) are bidding against each other on any given Sunday night. I think the reality is that even though there are ~6000 wines on Winebid on any given week many of the lots are just noise for what "we" look for. Taking out the prestige bot...

I would think that it is a large part of it. Higher consumption and more money being diverted from my traveling budget have increased my purchasing. Traveling vicariously with regional wine, food recipes, and travel documentaries have been our go to pandemic entertainment. Winebid also seems more a...

Agree here. Total dollars spent is down, but potential number of lots being down increases the competition for those lots, leading to the anecdotal experiences in this thread. Of course, to do this accurately we would need to do this at a much finer grain (because lots could be differently sized, d...

Total dollars spent. But doesn't that also depend on how many lots are put up for auction? Looking at a cost of goods sold doesn't mean much without additional data points. Agree here. Total dollars spent is down, but potential number of lots being down increases the competition for those lots, lea...

Total dollars spent. But doesn't that also depend on how many lots are put up for auction? Looking at a cost of goods sold doesn't mean much without additional data points. Agree here. Total dollars spent is down, but potential number of lots being down increases the competition for those lots, lea...

Is that price per bottle? quantity? total dollars spent? Total dollars spent. But doesn't that also depend on how many lots are put up for auction? Looking at a cost of goods sold doesn't mean much without additional data points. Yes agree. Given the data I’ve seen, lots for sale fell 11% and reven...

I think it's very much the Covid effect, combined with a surging stock market. People feel flush with cash and they are "treating themselves" during a stressful time. Personally, I miss buying from HdH retail even more than I miss auctions. For a while I was making a trip to HdH every 7-1...

The Covid-effect? I know I’ve bought more than normal this year. I think it's very much the Covid effect, combined with a surging stock market. People feel flush with cash and they are "treating themselves" during a stressful time. Personally, I miss buying from HdH retail even more than ...

David Glasser wrote: ↑January 18th, 2021, 8:55 am I agree with Howard on marriage year wines...

Marriage year, college graduation year, highschool graduation year, year I got my first car: if the vintage is good I will find a way to convince myself to buy more

The Covid-effect? I know I’ve bought more than normal this year. I would think that it is a large part of it. Higher consumption and more money being diverted from my traveling budget have increased my purchasing. Traveling vicariously with regional wine, food recipes, and travel documentaries have...

1. From my analysis, WB is often worst value for blue chips across Burg and Bordeaux 2. Retail lags auction, so if there is an increase in demand you will see it reflected in auction prices first (you will see retail quantities either already at zero or soon after) 3. Auction prices are pretty varia...

I should put whoever voted for 2004 on ignore as I would have a hard time following any of their advice with respect to any wine. The 04 and 11 choices really threw me. Also not a single vote for 02 yet which I would put higher than a lot of choices made so far. I think 09/10 but hard to say what w...

Marcu$ Stanley wrote: ↑January 17th, 2021, 4:48 pm another here who thinks 2002 is terrific, although I had to vote for 2010. I would put 2002 second, has so much charm.

Surprised to see 2014-15-16 all getting equal votes

This is what makes the question hard: the 2000-2004 are fairly mature while the 2012+ vintages are infants. I love the 2002s.

I should put whoever voted for 2004 on ignore as I would have a hard time following any of their advice with respect to any wine. The 04 and 11 choices really threw me. Also not a single vote for 02 yet which I would put higher than a lot of choices made so far. I think 09/10 but hard to say what w...

My kids are 2015 and 2017 - the burgundy I’ve accumulated for them will not go undrunk

Both my husband and I have difficult, though not impossible, birth years, mine being the harder of the two. Finding a bottle is nice novelty, but not an active pursuit. ha. My year is legitimately the worst of the 20th century. 1956. Only some Tokay decent. My kids did well and have cases of birth ...

My stepson was born in 2009, and my husband purchased a 12L bottle of a very good, though not top tier (too expensive) Barolo, fully understanding that it would be consumed mostly by the adult members of the family and friends at some point after his son comes of age. Other than that, he didn't mak...

My sense is buying wine for the birth year of a child is more for the parent and less for the child, who may or may not really care. You will get a lot more out of buying wine from the year you were married. If you are buying because it’s their birth year and then plan to stop buying for them then ...

My sense is buying wine for the birth year of a child is more for the parent and less for the child, who may or may not really care. You will get a lot more out of buying wine from the year you were married. If you are buying because it’s their birth year and then plan to stop buying for them then ...

The way I’ve gone about this so far is to ask myself some questions 1. “what would be good to open when?” 2. “What will they like to drink?” 3. “If this weren’t a birth year wine what would I buy to hold?” I want to give my kids a drinking experience they would be hard pressed to put together in the...

I purchased my small allocation (2 x 2018 G2,2 x 2018 James Berry, 2 x 2018 Heart Stone). All bottles arriving at Domaine NJ in March. If you want any let me know. Bottles are $105 each ($98 + tax) plus any transfer fee (delivery from Domaine or internal transfer). Also willing to do an interesting ...

I will likely not take my whole allocation. If anyone wants to split let me know. Since I will deliver to Domaine might be easier to find someone who stores there.

Sarah Kirschbaum wrote: ↑January 9th, 2021, 6:18 am Okay, one more fun one:

Him: (With a totally straight face) No, actually this is how South African wines are served.

When I can go to dinner with friends I am absolutely going to do and say this

Hart G wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 10:52 am
AD Northup wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 8:11 am
Hart G wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 7:10 am 5 x 2014 Prevost Fac-Simile
Mind sharing where?
private cellar

I too picked up 3

I put in an order yesterday....

Purchases: up 400% YoY and 350% vs 3yr Avg Consumption*: down 20% YoY and down 30% vs 3yr Avg Avg price per bottle: down 15% YoY and up 40% vs 3yr Wt Avg *I noticed my consumption pattern is to drink about 10-15x what I pull from my cellar (a function of drinking mainly at wine dinners/BYO dinners/e...

How’s everyone’s average price per bottle trending?

To add something not yet mentioned: I learned quickly by reading through auction catalogues (see this one for example https://auction.zachys.com/AuctionDetails.aspx?auctionid=95) Auction catalogues are a good source for familiarizing yourself with what’s “blue chip”, they are well organized (red the...

alan weinberg wrote: ↑December 24th, 2020, 6:07 pm
B. Buzzini wrote: ↑December 24th, 2020, 5:35 pm
alan weinberg wrote: ↑December 24th, 2020, 4:50 pm crazy price. And it worked for me also.
Let’s go clubbin Doc!!!

ok! When they open!

Big fan of the Rose Luminous (esp in Mag)

6x2014 Bernard-Bonin Meursault 1er Cru Les Charmes-Dessus do you have much experience with this producer? not much out there, but the notes i have read seemed to be rather mixed. Yes notes are all over the place. Only had it once vs Lafon Charmes and I thought it edged the Lafon (both 10s). And I a...

I stayed at the St Regis ;the Jean Georges is there). It’s the worst by a mile of all the Jean Georges I’ve been to. It’s also probably the most expensive.

I recommend champagne - it’s basically all we drank while there and it was perfect.

6x2014 Bernard-Bonin Meursault 1er Cru Les Charmes-Dessus

It was really interesting to hear Jasper basically draw a line between pre-2017 and the ‘18/‘19/‘20 (and presumably future) style of Burgundian wines. He basically starts from the premise that you have to like the new style of the wines, and if you don’t you should move on but if you do then there ...

I don't have large allocations like many Berserkers, and mostly buy by in 2-4 bottle groupings, so I haven't had to buy to keep up my relationships. All the 18's I've had (mostly Bourgogne/Cote de Nuits Villages) have been almost unbearably ripe/burly. I'm not allocating any more of my budget to th...

If anyone was an insomniac like me, Jasper Morris did a broadcast this AM (at 10 Burgundy time) in discussing the 2019's. He made numerous references to the 2018's that were quite helpful, including the issues of growers picking early due to fears of over-ripeness and his experiences of drinking 14...

Roumier 2018s: CM, Charmes Chambertin, Corton Charlemagne, Bonnes Mares

Agree with Mark - the goal is to put all the wines in like terms within reason. Auction commissions fall into that bucket (and wine searcher agrees). They wrote back to me today saying they expect early next year release. I offered to beta test. I will let you know what they say. ...now if they woul...

The easy solution is to ask the auction houses to include the commission in their listings. I believe that is what they are doing (i.e. changing their data feed to incorporate that as a field) Is this included in the listing, or is this planned for some later date? I did not see anything when I che...

I asked this to the WS team back in June. Here is their reply: Yes we have definitely though of this, adding buyers commissions to auctions. It is in the pipeline for development at Wine-Searcher. Thanks for your feedback, we hope to have this improvement live shortly. The easy solution is to ask t...

I think the last year has seen a fairly large increase at auction; I consistently see lots of wine you can easily get at retail going higher than retail pricing, which is odd. I would suggest that a significant percentage is due to the distortion on WineSearcher. by that you mean you think people s...

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