DRC large format question

LawrenceM · August 7, 2015, 8:54pm

I understand that after 2007 (?) DRC no longer produces large format bottles.

Does anyone know how many magnums, double magnums and bigger were generally produced before then?

Reason I ask is that I came across this article which includes a picture of Allen Meadows standing in front of what has to be a 6L bottle of DRC - I have never seen one (although that’s not saying anything) and can only imagine how rare they must be.

R.Oesterle · August 7, 2015, 9:07pm

i know only from 2005 la Tâche and 2005 RC(from my site)

Romanée-Conti 2005
75cl: 4’785
Magnum: 300
Jéroboam: 10
Mathusalem: 8
Total: 5489 Fl.

La Tâche 2005
75cl: 20’486
Magnum: 600
Jéroboam: 25
Mathusalem: 15
Total: 21’906 Fl.

magnums gives today

R_Smith1 · August 7, 2015, 9:14pm

Per the DRC, following the 2009 vintage, they will no longer be offering wines in a formats larger than a magnums

RyanC · August 7, 2015, 9:15pm

God, how much would a Mathusalem of 2005 DRC RC cost? 150k?

R.Oesterle · August 7, 2015, 9:17pm

direct?think only 20-30000$.

Michael_Bowden · August 7, 2015, 9:36pm

Offering and making might be 2 different things…

patrick_c_albright · August 7, 2015, 9:41pm

2008 was the last vintage bottles larger than magnum were released for sale.

Stuart_BeauneHead_Niemtzow · August 7, 2015, 10:09pm

Who knows if it’s real, anyway…“Rudy” created lots of product in his time…and Mr. Meadows vouched for “Rudy” very publicly and vociferously for a while in Rudy’s “career”…so…who knows what’s in that bottle…

just wondering…

Craig_G · August 7, 2015, 11:20pm

I expect these numbers will increase over time.

Anton_D · August 8, 2015, 12:32am

Awesome!

PCLIN · August 10, 2015, 6:50am

Must be at least 10x in circulation by now…and growing!

L_e_o_F_r_o_k_i_c · August 11, 2015, 3:17am

exponentially

karl_storchmann · February 20, 2021, 9:39pm

As for larger DRC formats R. Oesterle posted
"Romanée-Conti 2005
75cl: 4’785
Magnum: 300
Jéroboam: 10
Mathusalem: 8
Total: 5489 Fl.

where is this information from? Is it possible to get the break-up for all DRC and all vintages?
Thanks, Karl

Peter_Chiu · February 21, 2021, 3:17pm

Karl…since there is no posting from R. Oesterle, so I tried to be helpful. I remembered I copied and kept notes posted by R. Oesterle regarding DRC.

I checked for notes in my person file and did not find what you were exactly looking. Here is what I had found - just the number of bottles of RC and LT - hope it may help.

Explanation notes - of of the information posted below. For example for the vintage year 2005 - the total number of bottles for RC was : 2005 - 5489.It did not represent that they were all 750 …but including all the large format.

**numbers of bottles;
La Romanee-Conti
Fläche:1ha80a50ca.,Monopol im Besitz seit 1869
Durchschnittsalter der Rebstöcke:52 jahre
Flaschenzahlen einiger Jahre.
1953 6992,1955 7144,1959 9627,1961 6080,1964 9145
1966 8424,1978 6535,1983 3867,1985 5443,1986 5790
1987 2915,1988 6438,1989 6723,1990 7446,1991 5043
1992 4776,1993 3600,1994 4210,1995 5397,1996 6101
1997 4814,1998 5064,1999 6917,2000 6286,2001 6407
2002 5548, 2003 3575,2004 5663,2005 5489,2006 5546
2007 4088,2008 3151

****Romanée-Conti 2005
75cl: 4’785
Magnum: 300
Jéroboam: 10
Mathusalem: 8
Total: 5489 Fl. *******

La Tâche
Fläche:6ha06a20ca. Monopol im Besitz seit 1869 bzw.1933
Durchschnittsalter der Rebstöcke:43 Jahre
Flaschenzahlen einiger Jahre.
1953 16112,1959 27714,1962 26740,1966 28245
1978 23710,1985 19487,1986 20328,1987 11186
1988 20137,1989 20532,1990 24071,1991 17137
1992 22784,1993 17971,1994 18705,1995 21118
1996 28373,1997 15266,1998 16921,1999 16640
2000 24867,2001 19789,2002 17343,2003 10147
2004 17193,2005 21906,2006 22140,2007 16844
2008 11560

.

patrick_c_albright · February 21, 2021, 3:21pm

Very difficult.
I have the numbers for 2005 —> 2008 for all cuvée’s and formats.

If you have a relationship with an agent/importer, maybe they will share.

karl_storchmann · May 18, 2021, 12:45am

Thanks Peter, very belated (sorry, I am new to WineBerserkers).
There must be somebody who keeps track of the number of DRC bottles produced — by bottle format.
I wonder where R. Oesterle’s info is from.

DRC provides the quantity of bottles (all bottles) produced for each grand crus and each vintage 1997-2011.
http://m.romanee-conti.fr/grand-cru/echezeaux.php
But it is not broken down by bottle format.

Cheers, Karl

Karl…since there is no posting from R. Oesterle, so I tried to be helpful. I remembered I copied and kept notes posted by R. Oesterle regarding DRC.

I checked for notes in my person file and did not find what you were exactly looking. Here is what I had found - just the number of bottles of RC and LT - hope it may help.

Explanation notes - of of the information posted below. For example for the vintage year 2005 - the total number of bottles for RC was : 2005 - 5489.It did not represent that they were all 750 …but including all the large format.

**numbers of bottles;
La Romanee-Conti
Fläche:1ha80a50ca.,Monopol im Besitz seit 1869
Durchschnittsalter der Rebstöcke:52 jahre
Flaschenzahlen einiger Jahre.
1953 6992,1955 7144,1959 9627,1961 6080,1964 9145
1966 8424,1978 6535,1983 3867,1985 5443,1986 5790
1987 2915,1988 6438,1989 6723,1990 7446,1991 5043
1992 4776,1993 3600,1994 4210,1995 5397,1996 6101
1997 4814,1998 5064,1999 6917,2000 6286,2001 6407
2002 5548, 2003 3575,2004 5663,2005 5489,2006 5546
2007 4088,2008 3151

****Romanée-Conti 2005
75cl: 4’785
Magnum: 300
Jéroboam: 10
Mathusalem: 8
Total: 5489 Fl. *******

La Tâche
Fläche:6ha06a20ca. Monopol im Besitz seit 1869 bzw.1933
Durchschnittsalter der Rebstöcke:43 Jahre
Flaschenzahlen einiger Jahre.
1953 16112,1959 27714,1962 26740,1966 28245
1978 23710,1985 19487,1986 20328,1987 11186
1988 20137,1989 20532,1990 24071,1991 17137
1992 22784,1993 17971,1994 18705,1995 21118
1996 28373,1997 15266,1998 16921,1999 16640
2000 24867,2001 19789,2002 17343,2003 10147
2004 17193,2005 21906,2006 22140,2007 16844
2008 11560

.

Dave_Nerland · May 18, 2021, 1:48am

The key word is sale. My understanding is Aubert keeps larger format wines but are not for sale.

alan_weinberg · May 18, 2021, 3:54am

Can’t always tell from a bottle. 99 GE—I have magnum 14 of 10,072 bottles but no idea how many mags. 90 LT mag is 125 of 24,071 bottles, and so forth.

R.Oesterle · May 18, 2021, 4:12pm

Thanks Peter, very belated (sorry, I am new to WineBerserkers).
There must be somebody who keeps track of the number of DRC bottles produced — by bottle format.
I wonder where R. Oesterle’s info is from.

DRC provides the quantity of bottles (all bottles) produced for each grand crus and each vintage 1997-2011.
404 - La page que vous avez demandée n'existe pas
But it is not broken down by bottle format.

Cheers, Karl

Karl…since there is no posting from R. Oesterle, so I tried to be helpful. I remembered I copied and kept notes posted by R. Oesterle regarding DRC.

I checked for notes in my person file and did not find what you were exactly looking. Here is what I had found - just the number of bottles of RC and LT - hope it may help.

Explanation notes - of of the information posted below. For example for the vintage year 2005 - the total number of bottles for RC was : 2005 - 5489.It did not represent that they were all 750 …but including all the large format.

**numbers of bottles;
La Romanee-Conti
Fläche:1ha80a50ca.,Monopol im Besitz seit 1869
Durchschnittsalter der Rebstöcke:52 jahre
Flaschenzahlen einiger Jahre.
1953 6992,1955 7144,1959 9627,1961 6080,1964 9145
1966 8424,1978 6535,1983 3867,1985 5443,1986 5790
1987 2915,1988 6438,1989 6723,1990 7446,1991 5043
1992 4776,1993 3600,1994 4210,1995 5397,1996 6101
1997 4814,1998 5064,1999 6917,2000 6286,2001 6407
2002 5548, 2003 3575,2004 5663,2005 5489,2006 5546
2007 4088,2008 3151

****Romanée-Conti 2005
75cl: 4’785
Magnum: 300
Jéroboam: 10
Mathusalem: 8
Total: 5489 Fl. *******

La Tâche
Fläche:6ha06a20ca. Monopol im Besitz seit 1869 bzw.1933
Durchschnittsalter der Rebstöcke:43 Jahre
Flaschenzahlen einiger Jahre.
1953 16112,1959 27714,1962 26740,1966 28245
1978 23710,1985 19487,1986 20328,1987 11186
1988 20137,1989 20532,1990 24071,1991 17137
1992 22784,1993 17971,1994 18705,1995 21118
1996 28373,1997 15266,1998 16921,1999 16640
2000 24867,2001 19789,2002 17343,2003 10147
2004 17193,2005 21906,2006 22140,2007 16844
2008 11560

.

had this information only for the 2005 vintage from swiss importer for DRC.
on my old website;

Peter_Chiu · May 18, 2021, 4:26pm

Roman…very nice to see your post.

Welcome back - should I say ?