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Ray Walker & Maison Ilan updates - the saga has ended...(updated)

#1 Post by Todd F r e n c h » July 14th, 2016, 11:04 am

Seems like Zach Velcoff is no longer with Maison Ilan?

http://zackvelcoff.com/twelve-strange-months/
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#2 Post by Larry Stein » July 14th, 2016, 11:11 am

For all you folks who have their MI wines, you should give a big thanks to Zach. He certainly made my life easier when I was dealing directly with the MI shipping logistics.

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#3 Post by Jorge Henriquez » July 14th, 2016, 11:14 am

Todd F r e n c h wrote:Seems like Zach Velcoff is no longer with Maison Ilan?

http://zackvelcoff.com/twelve-strange-months/
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#4 Post by scamhi » July 14th, 2016, 11:16 am

Todd F r e n c h wrote:Seems like Zach Velcoff is no longer with Maison Ilan?

http://zackvelcoff.com/twelve-strange-months/
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#5 Post by Larry Stein » July 14th, 2016, 11:21 am

scamhi wrote:
Todd F r e n c h wrote:Seems like Zach Velcoff is no longer with Maison Ilan?

http://zackvelcoff.com/twelve-strange-months/
I also received an invite from Zack to connect on AngelList.
He lists his position as "Independent Wine & Spirits Consultant; Storyteller; Slinger of Booze"
What the heck is AngelList? I received the same invite, but am loathe to connect to yet another social media list.

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#6 Post by scamhi » July 14th, 2016, 11:24 am

Larry, it is a website for startups for people looking to find work or help fund a startup.
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#7 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » July 14th, 2016, 12:20 pm

Reading that makes me ill.
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#8 Post by scamhi » July 14th, 2016, 1:11 pm

Bill Tex Landreth wrote:Reading that makes me ill.
what this line?..."I met people who would change my life forever—and for the better, though it would take betrayals, regrets, and a hundred sunsets before I figured that out."
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#9 Post by Jorge Henriquez » July 14th, 2016, 1:34 pm

100 sunsets = 14.28 weeks.......not even close to 12 months. Hyperbole extraordinaire!!!

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#10 Post by Jorge Henriquez » July 14th, 2016, 1:38 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:Seems like Zach Velcoff is no longer with Maison Ilan?

http://zackvelcoff.com/twelve-strange-months/

Zach is not the only one NOT with Maison Ilan it seems like.
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#11 Post by Jorge Henriquez » July 14th, 2016, 1:40 pm

From Facebook:
Today is one for the books, everyone! Many folks, including my cherished clients will be pleased to hear that MAISON ILAN has brought on Rose WYATT, as our Administrative Director!!! I will have contact info for Rose shortly. We are are currently in the process of adding on several new hires, and Rose is an integral part of the team!
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Is Rose WYATT someone famous or something?
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#12 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » July 14th, 2016, 1:45 pm

Jorge Henriquez wrote:
Todd F r e n c h wrote:Seems like Zach Velcoff is no longer with Maison Ilan?

http://zackvelcoff.com/twelve-strange-months/

Zach is not the only one NOT with Maison Ilan it seems like.
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#13 Post by Jim Anderson » July 14th, 2016, 1:46 pm

Jorge Henriquez wrote:100 sunsets = 14.28 weeks.......not even close to 12 months. Hyperbole extraordinaire!!!

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#14 Post by Siun o'Connell » July 14th, 2016, 7:36 pm

In one of his other essays (if that's what they are) he has a passage that reads:
The event wasn’t slated to start for an hour, and in about half an hour, I got an unpleasant phone call. I took this call in the stairwell off the lobby, where one of the evening’s emcees walked by and heard me say something along the lines of, “He’s f*cking slime, his harassment is unacceptable, and it needs to stop.”
Made me wonder....

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#15 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » July 14th, 2016, 7:42 pm

Siun o'Connell wrote:In one of his other essays (if that's what they are) he has a passage that reads:
The event wasn’t slated to start for an hour, and in about half an hour, I got an unpleasant phone call. I took this call in the stairwell off the lobby, where one of the evening’s emcees walked by and heard me say something along the lines of, “He’s f*cking slime, his harassment is unacceptable, and it needs to stop.”
Made me wonder....
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#16 Post by Randy Bowman » July 14th, 2016, 7:50 pm

But he was filming in Barcelona a week ago. [wow.gif]

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#17 Post by Jon Hesford » July 15th, 2016, 10:39 am

My guess is that he is reinventing himself as a TV food and wine personality. He was always good at that, even if he failed to live up to most of his other ambitions.

Who knows, he may want to interview me one day:)
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#18 Post by scamhi » July 15th, 2016, 1:02 pm

Jon Hesford wrote:My guess is that he is reinventing himself as a TV food and wine personality. He was always good at that, even if he failed to live up to most of his other ambitions.

Who knows, he may want to interview me one day:)
He doesn't have the personality for that.
I heard him read from his book and he was a monotone reader with no timing and lacked the ability to read with expression.

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#19 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » July 19th, 2016, 8:11 am

Has anyone physically been to the Maison Ilan facility, or seen Ray in France recently?
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#20 Post by Todd F r e n c h » July 19th, 2016, 8:22 am

What I presume Bill is alluding to is along the same lines as the rumors I was given early this morning by two folks from two different countries (in no particular order, and not necessarily combined), that Ray has fled the country, that the government has locked the doors to Maison Ilan, that all assets of the corporation are locked pending a divorce, and that if you have wines awaiting delivery, get them as soon as possible.
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#21 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » July 19th, 2016, 8:28 am

^This
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#22 Post by Corey N. » July 19th, 2016, 8:31 am

Todd F r e n c h wrote:What I presume Bill is alluding to is along the same lines as the rumors I was given early this morning by two folks from two different countries (in no particular order, and not necessarily combined), that Ray has fled the country, that the government has locked the doors to Maison Ilan, that all assets of the corporation are locked pending a divorce, and that if you have wines awaiting delivery, get them as soon as possible.
Doesn't Maison Ilan have investors? I would think that locking the doors to a corporation that is not wholly owned by the parties to a divorce proceeding would be highly unusual and you'd also be crippling the business. There's something more to this story.
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#23 Post by PaulMills » July 19th, 2016, 8:38 am

From his Sunday FB post. I wonder if these poor people will still receive their wine.


Hello Everyone! All WINE SHIPMENTS will continue in FALL 2016. If you are awaiting any wines from vintages up to the 2014 vintage, these will ALL be delivered this FALL! Thank you for your patience and support!!

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#24 Post by Mark Mason » July 19th, 2016, 8:39 am

Oh really? The Maison Ilan saga continues...
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#25 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » July 19th, 2016, 8:45 am

PaulMills wrote:From his Sunday FB post. I wonder if these poor people will still receive their wine.


Hello Everyone! All WINE SHIPMENTS will continue in FALL 2016. If you are awaiting any wines from vintages up to the 2014 vintage, these will ALL be delivered this FALL! Thank you for your patience and support!!
Nice touch having that ashtray and lighter in the cave. Bet that gives some great terroir.
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#26 Post by ybarselah » July 19th, 2016, 9:46 am

Did he flee the country in Howard Schultz's private jet...?
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#27 Post by ybarselah » July 19th, 2016, 9:49 am

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#28 Post by Dale Bowers » July 19th, 2016, 9:54 am

A tiger never changes its stripes. Sad.
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#29 Post by Jorge Henriquez » July 19th, 2016, 10:08 am

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#30 Post by Chris Blum » July 19th, 2016, 10:19 am

He'll just blame his wife for this latest chapter. Nothing's ever ol' Ray's fault.
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#31 Post by Craig G » July 19th, 2016, 11:13 am

I've never been divorced so I was unaware it required fleeing the country.
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#32 Post by Todd F r e n c h » July 19th, 2016, 11:19 am

Craig G wrote:I've never been divorced so I was unaware it required fleeing the country.
Rumor is that it is related to domestic violence...again
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#33 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » July 19th, 2016, 11:25 am

Craig G wrote:I've never been divorced so I was unaware it required fleeing the country.
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#34 Post by dcornutt » July 19th, 2016, 12:07 pm

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#35 Post by larry schaffer » July 19th, 2016, 12:13 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
Craig G wrote:I've never been divorced so I was unaware it required fleeing the country.
Rumor is that it is related to domestic violence...again
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#36 Post by Todd F r e n c h » July 19th, 2016, 12:25 pm

larry schaffer wrote:
Todd F r e n c h wrote:
Craig G wrote:I've never been divorced so I was unaware it required fleeing the country.
Rumor is that it is related to domestic violence...again
Careful about rumors, my friend . . .
Won't be the first time he threatens to sue me, but I don't care anymore (I did state it is a rumor, for what it's worth), and the 'again' comes with facts - there are court records of a previous domestic abuse case
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#37 Post by Anton D » July 19th, 2016, 12:28 pm

Delivery of 2014's?

Did anybody really order any more wine after the 2012 vintage?

This guy makes Premier Cru look forthright.
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#38 Post by Todd F r e n c h » July 19th, 2016, 12:35 pm

Anton D wrote:Delivery of 2014's?

Did anybody really order any more wine after the 2012 vintage?

This guy makes Premier Cru look forthright.
Rumored the 2014 and 2015 wines are locked in the abbey, abandoned, as Ray no longer has access to the abbey where the wine caves/storage are.
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#39 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » July 19th, 2016, 12:37 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
Anton D wrote:Delivery of 2014's?

Did anybody really order any more wine after the 2012 vintage?

This guy makes Premier Cru look forthright.
Rumored the 2014 and 2015 wines are locked in the abbey, abandoned, as Ray no longer has access to the abbey where the wine caves/storage are.

Extended barrel age program. Problem solved.
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#40 Post by Larry Stein » July 19th, 2016, 12:41 pm

Anton D wrote:Delivery of 2014's?

Did anybody really order any more wine after the 2012 vintage?
There were many orders for 2013 in the US. Those were all filled and shipped.

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#41 Post by c fu » July 19th, 2016, 12:43 pm

larry schaffer wrote:
Todd F r e n c h wrote:
Craig G wrote:I've never been divorced so I was unaware it required fleeing the country.
Rumor is that it is related to domestic violence...again
Careful about rumors, my friend . . .
should see his soon to be ex wife's facebook account for more info as she speaks on the issues of domestic violence and leaving a country with her children without approval from the other parent. In particular the treaty between France and the US that requires a court to allow her to leave france to go back to America with her children because she is in direct harm.
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#42 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » July 19th, 2016, 12:52 pm

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#43 Post by larry schaffer » July 19th, 2016, 12:53 pm

Charlie,

Wow - glad that I am not that wrapped up in this mess. Hate to hear stuff like that . . .

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#44 Post by Dale Bowers » July 19th, 2016, 1:25 pm

I wonder what Countries grow wine and don't have an extradition treaty with France?
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#45 Post by Dale McClaran » July 19th, 2016, 2:22 pm

The Maison Ilan website is down.
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#46 Post by rfelthoven » July 19th, 2016, 3:15 pm

Dale McClaran wrote:The Maison Ilan website is down.
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#47 Post by J. Galang » July 19th, 2016, 3:15 pm

Dale McClaran wrote:The Maison Ilan website is down.
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#48 Post by Todd F r e n c h » July 19th, 2016, 3:23 pm

Supposedly there are quite a few bottles of late vintage Maison Ilan that aren't GC Burgundy at all, but Santenay and Madeira....
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#49 Post by CWun » July 19th, 2016, 3:31 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:Supposedly there are quite a few bottles of late vintage Maison Ilan that aren't GC Burgundy at all, but Santenay and Madeira....
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Is this in jest, or another whispered rumor?
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#50 Post by Todd F r e n c h » July 19th, 2016, 4:29 pm

CWun wrote:
Todd F r e n c h wrote:Supposedly there are quite a few bottles of late vintage Maison Ilan that aren't GC Burgundy at all, but Santenay and Madeira....
??

Is this in jest, or another whispered rumor?
More rumor, but based on rather public purchases Ray has made recently, of multiple cases of each
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