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2011 Napa cabs

#1 Post by Alan Eden » April 6th, 2019, 6:35 am

Ive drunk several of these recently, Chimney rock, Ramey, Ridge estate etc and im finding that i really enjoy this vintage. In the past ive avoided 11's due to its reputation and that the Syrahs's ive tried were not that great but the cabs seem to be very good. The general style of 11 is more reserved and to my taste its almost as if the Napa wines are more Bordeaux like in this vintage as the sweetness of fruit is not as pronounced and the wines are more structured. They have what i can only describe as a thinner quality, less chewy than normal Napa cabs that is actually very appealing.

Anyone else surprised by the 11's ?
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#2 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » April 6th, 2019, 6:37 am

I think many on this board would agree with you. I’ve had some duds but some nice ones as well. Corison, Ch. Montelena, and Myriad come to mind.

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#3 Post by Andrew Demaree » April 6th, 2019, 6:48 am

I’d add Lamborn, Outpost, EMH, Beau Vigne, and Rivers-Marie (especially the Panek Vineyard) to the list.

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#4 Post by ykwon » April 6th, 2019, 7:14 am

Would Ridge even be considered Napa? I think it’s SF Bay / SCM?
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#5 Post by JohnP » April 6th, 2019, 7:27 am

Had a 2011 Calera Selleck recently and it was the group favorite. Also, love the 2011 Spottswoode.
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#6 Post by jcoley3 » April 6th, 2019, 7:29 am

Yeah, I'm amazed by how well the 98s turned out a few years after the vintage, once all the negative hype died down and many people realized that some of the blockbuster years weren't aging particularly well.

Oh. Wait. Sorry. 2011.

Same thing.
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#7 Post by Glen Gold » April 6th, 2019, 9:02 am

Interesting to see if opinions from this thread panned out: https://wineberserkers.com/forum/viewto ... 1#p1775114

I had another 2011 Jean Edwards a couple of nights ago that was fresh and restrained and lovely, and excellent not just for the vintage.
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#8 Post by Philip G » April 6th, 2019, 9:51 am

Andrew Demaree wrote:
April 6th, 2019, 6:48 am
I’d add Lamborn, Outpost, EMH, Beau Vigne, and Rivers-Marie (especially the Panek Vineyard) to the list.
I've enjoyed the '11 Quivet Pellet and Kenefick Cabernets. The RM Napa I was less than thrilled with, a bit disjointed. I have an '11 Panek that I have not tried. The nice thing is if you find one you like some below cost prices can be found for some of them because of the medium scores and '11 reputation.
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#9 Post by Michael Fess » April 6th, 2019, 10:07 am

I have been surprised by how good these have turned out as well. Very Bordeaux like and need some time to open up. A few bottles I did not like on day 1 opened them, that really came around on day 2. L'Adventure(cab blend), Cabaud, Jonata(though not Napa), Buccella, Morlet, Realm, I have a R-M '11's that I will have to give a try.

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#10 Post by Joe B » April 6th, 2019, 11:18 am

I have drunk all but two bottles of the 2011 vintage of napa cabs and I have zero regrets. It allowed me the ability to drink less of the 2012 and pretty much leave 2013 vintage alone.
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#11 Post by KyleC » April 6th, 2019, 12:02 pm

Agree with the 2011 Napa vintage having a ton BDX like qualities. I opened a 2011 Araujo Alianza a few weeks back and it was delightful.
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#12 Post by Len Lescosky » April 6th, 2019, 3:11 pm

I am enjoying the 2011s. Kathryn and 1873 from Hall, La Jota, O'Shaugnessy, have been very good recently.

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#13 Post by James Ka » April 6th, 2019, 3:22 pm

We are still waiting on some 11s to come around, my wife has been down on them for several years, but I firmly believe they will continue to come around. We have an Ilsley that we will leave until we (she) has more confidence. Good to see some positive thoughts.
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#14 Post by Chris Atkins » April 6th, 2019, 11:22 pm

Some producers complained that their grapes didn't fully ripen in 2011. The obvious question to them is, what exactly are you trying to make? Okay some 2011's are lighter in body and extract, but isn't that welcome?. I actually prefer the 2011 Drinkward Peschon to the 2010 and 2012. The 2011 Dunn Howell Mountain is a spectacular wine, I picked some up for $99. Then there is the 2011 Heather Glen, all 10 cases, which also blows away many of the 99-100 point fruit bombs from 2012 and 2013.

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#15 Post by David Glasser » April 7th, 2019, 1:46 pm

Chris Atkins wrote:
April 6th, 2019, 11:22 pm
Then there is the 2011 Heather Glen, all 10 cases, which also blows away many of the 99-100 point fruit bombs from 2012 and 2013.
That’s an impressive vote of confidence! I’ve never heard of them, and Google and CellarTracker weren’t much help. Wine Searcher turned up a 1.75L bottle, no mention of vintage, available for $12 in Memphis. That doesn’t sound right...

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#16 Post by Karen Troisi » April 7th, 2019, 2:54 pm

Glen Gold wrote:
April 6th, 2019, 9:02 am
Interesting to see if opinions from this thread panned out: https://wineberserkers.com/forum/viewto ... 1#p1775114

I had another 2011 Jean Edwards a couple of nights ago that was fresh and restrained and lovely, and excellent not just for the vintage.
Thanks Glen - which 2011 cab was it? Time for me to do a progress check on that vintage.
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#17 Post by Scott Brunson » April 7th, 2019, 3:00 pm

'11 Continuum drank well about a year ago but we haven't checked in lately.
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#18 Post by Glen Gold » April 7th, 2019, 3:06 pm

Karen Troisi wrote:
April 7th, 2019, 2:54 pm
Glen Gold wrote:
April 6th, 2019, 9:02 am
Interesting to see if opinions from this thread panned out: https://wineberserkers.com/forum/viewto ... 1#p1775114

I had another 2011 Jean Edwards a couple of nights ago that was fresh and restrained and lovely, and excellent not just for the vintage.
Thanks Glen - which 2011 cab was it? Time for me to do a progress check on that vintage.
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#19 Post by David Glasser » April 7th, 2019, 4:07 pm

I was very selective buying 2011 Napa Cabs, but have been happy with those I’ve opened. The 2011 Shafer Hillside was less dense than adjacent vintages but still excellent. The 2011 EMH Black Cat Special Selection in my glass right now is elegant, beautifully balanced, and another excellent wine.

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#20 Post by Wes Barton » April 7th, 2019, 4:09 pm

Chris Atkins wrote:
April 6th, 2019, 11:22 pm
Some producers complained that their grapes didn't fully ripen in 2011. The obvious question to them is, what exactly are you trying to make? Okay some 2011's are lighter in body and extract, but isn't that welcome?
Exactly. It's the drive to conform to image instead of focusing on quality.
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#21 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » April 7th, 2019, 4:14 pm

Matthiasson is really good as well.
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#22 Post by Jason T » April 7th, 2019, 7:13 pm

Glen Gold wrote:
April 7th, 2019, 3:06 pm
Karen Troisi wrote:
April 7th, 2019, 2:54 pm
Glen Gold wrote:
April 6th, 2019, 9:02 am
Interesting to see if opinions from this thread panned out: https://wineberserkers.com/forum/viewto ... 1#p1775114

I had another 2011 Jean Edwards a couple of nights ago that was fresh and restrained and lovely, and excellent not just for the vintage.
Thanks Glen - which 2011 cab was it? Time for me to do a progress check on that vintage.
The Stagecoach. Boy howdy!

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We bought a couple of cases of the 74-41 (do I have that right?) and they have all been great with a bit of air. Definitely closer to Bordeaux in terms of profile. Cracked one last night for someone who “hates Napa cabs” and she definitely enjoyed it.
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#23 Post by Eric Werner » April 7th, 2019, 8:14 pm

I have had great luck with the 2011s. The mountain sites have been consistently good, with the Cimarossa cabs (for me) being wonderful. But, recently, I’ve had great bottles from VHR, Greer, Blankiet, and Congruence. I’ve also heard from several people with better experience that I have, that they fully expect 2011s to round into great wines across the board. Who knows, but the wines do seem to be better now than when they first came out.

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