Harlan Estate - 2016 The Maiden

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Harlan Estate - 2016 The Maiden

#1 Post by Demian Saenz » August 26th, 2019, 7:16 pm

Harlan Estate is out with the 2016 The Maiden and 2017 Harlan Estate.

Is anyone buying? $300 per bottle for The Maiden.

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#2 Post by Chris Atkins » August 26th, 2019, 7:42 pm

Did you reverse the years?

The Maiden for $300, holy mackerel!

What are they asking for the Estate?

I just bought 2016 Chateau Pichon Comtesse Lalande for $180, how do you think the Harlan’s compare to that?

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#3 Post by Demian Saenz » August 26th, 2019, 7:55 pm

I double checked the years. The Maiden offer I received is 3 bottles for $900 or 6 for $1800.

I have not had a Harlan Estate wine.

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#4 Post by JohnP » August 26th, 2019, 8:00 pm

Just logged in. Harlan is $2700, only offered in one 3-pack. No option for single bottles or mags, as offered in previous vintages.
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#5 Post by Alex N » August 26th, 2019, 8:57 pm

I checked and can do a single, double, or 3 pack of Estate, and 3 or 6 of Maiden.
I'll probably just stick with Mascot until they tip the $100/bottle mark, and then drop off the list. Who knows, it could be their next offering. I opened a 2010 Maiden recently and it was really nice, and I remember when Maiden was under $100. Thinking of all the things I can spend $999 on (the price for 1 bottle of 2017 Harlan plus tax and shipping), a new 750ml bottle of wine isn't one of them.
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#6 Post by Adam Frisch » August 26th, 2019, 9:17 pm

JohnP wrote:
August 26th, 2019, 8:00 pm
Just logged in. Harlan is $2700, only offered in one 3-pack. No option for single bottles or mags, as offered in previous vintages.
Are they going down the Bryant route? Overestimating the demand? Or have they just raised prices so much demand has fallen off cliff?
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#7 Post by JohnP » August 26th, 2019, 10:48 pm

Adam Frisch wrote:
August 26th, 2019, 9:17 pm
JohnP wrote:
August 26th, 2019, 8:00 pm
Just logged in. Harlan is $2700, only offered in one 3-pack. No option for single bottles or mags, as offered in previous vintages.
Are they going down the Bryant route? Overestimating the demand? Or have they just raised prices so much demand has fallen off cliff?
Harlan is first growth Napa and until the economy severely corrects, I'm guessing the population of luxury wine consumers is still growing, especially in the Bay Area.
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#8 Post by Alex N » August 26th, 2019, 11:00 pm

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#9 Post by Jason T » August 27th, 2019, 4:52 am

JohnP wrote:
August 26th, 2019, 10:48 pm

Harlan is first growth Napa.
By price, yes. Curious if anyone would consider it 'first growth Napa' in a blind tasting...
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#10 Post by Bill G » August 27th, 2019, 4:57 am

I am in shock. Just checked my offering and it looks like I will have to pass. Last year, I was on the fence. This year they simply priced me out. :-o

I am sure lots of restaurants and corps can justify those prices.
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#11 Post by Ken Strauss » August 27th, 2019, 6:45 am

I dropped off when the price was $500 a bottle.
They must be selling since they keep raising the price.
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#12 Post by Jeff_M. » August 27th, 2019, 7:18 am

I didn't get an email from them but did have an allocation when I logged in. Not going to happen at those prices. Split a 3 pack with a much wealthier friend last year.
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#13 Post by Demian Saenz » August 27th, 2019, 7:26 am

I’d rather spend that $900 commitment they are asking of me on 2016 Bordeaux, Pinots from various producers, and some port vintages.

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#14 Post by Christian Becker » August 27th, 2019, 9:05 am

Really like the Maiden but at $300 it's a likely pass. There must be buyers though. Had the same issue with HSS when it hit $300+.

If anyone wants any Estate or Maiden drop me a note.

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#15 Post by Steve Crawford » August 27th, 2019, 9:35 am

i almost understand buying harlan at 900. but maiden at 300 is just laughable.

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#16 Post by BethAWA » August 27th, 2019, 10:38 am

I’m realllly on the fence for this one. I passed on both last year and have already gotten the nasty gram saying if I don’t bite I’m off the allocation list. 2017 is my son’s birth year and, therefore, somewhat sentimental but $2700 is outrageous. If I went for the Maiden it would only be to stay on the allocation list for their 2017 next year, honestly.
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#17 Post by David Baum » August 27th, 2019, 11:04 am

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Just saw this in WS. Your getting a deal at $900

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#18 Post by Jim Clary » August 27th, 2019, 2:19 pm

David Baum wrote:
August 27th, 2019, 11:04 am
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Just saw this in WS. Your getting a deal at $900
Very accurate reporting. I was reading the sneak preview as the Harlan mailer popped up in my inbox. They are also wrong on the Colgin, which is $500, not $650. Seems like a bargain compared to Harlan. champagne.gif
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#19 Post by blarmston » August 27th, 2019, 2:47 pm

I may pull the trigger on a three pack of the Maiden, but with a couple offerings coming in the next month (Memento Mori, MacDonald), I may punt on this.

My reason for considering is my opening of a 2013 Maiden a couple years ago that I recall as being one of the best bottles I have ever opened.

Its terrific wine, but is it $900++ for a three pack terrific?
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#20 Post by Bill G » August 27th, 2019, 2:54 pm

Sounds like a lot of punts so far.

Wonder how many are going to drop off of their allocation list...
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#21 Post by C. Keller » August 27th, 2019, 3:17 pm

Received this today along with Abreu and Ovid. If you went for 3 pack of each it would be $5,000+ for just 9 bottles of wine. FOH
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#22 Post by AndrewEck » August 27th, 2019, 4:21 pm

C. Keller wrote:
August 27th, 2019, 3:17 pm
Received this today along with Abreu and Ovid. If you went for 3 pack of each it would be $5,000+ for just 9 bottles of wine. FOH
How much does the Ovid run? I’m on their list. I got the Harlan and Abreu releases. Heavily leaning towards dumping Harlan and staying on Abreu.

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#23 Post by Chris Atkins » August 27th, 2019, 4:45 pm

I just realized that a case of Estate plus Uncle Sam and shipping, will send someone back about $12,000! I don’t think too many of us are going to make that mistake!

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#24 Post by RickieM » August 27th, 2019, 5:49 pm

Chris Atkins wrote:
August 27th, 2019, 4:45 pm
I just realized that a case of Estate plus Uncle Sam and shipping, will send someone back about $12,000! I don’t think too many of us are going to make that mistake!

You mean they also charge for shipping???
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#25 Post by jeffruggels » August 27th, 2019, 6:38 pm

I dropped off years ago, but the 01 estate i pulled from cellar a few months back was an amazing bottle

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#26 Post by Adam Frisch » August 27th, 2019, 8:40 pm

I mean, it's obscene, right?
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#27 Post by Craig G » August 27th, 2019, 10:50 pm

In what world is Harlan worth 50% more than Haut Brion?
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#28 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » August 28th, 2019, 12:40 am

Craig G wrote:
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In what world is Harlan worth 50% more than Haut Brion?
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#29 Post by ERPark » August 28th, 2019, 8:02 am

I recall someone saying American wine is better than French wine. This person is renowned for having impeccable taste in everything. So Harlan is easily better than any French wine from Hot Brian.......
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#30 Post by Ken Strauss » August 28th, 2019, 8:15 am

Craig G wrote:
August 27th, 2019, 10:50 pm
In what world is Harlan worth 50% more than Haut Brion?

Part of the reason.
Haut Brion 20,000 cases
Harlan 2,000 cases
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