TN: 2012 Domaine Jacques Carillon Bienvenues-Bâtard-Montrachet

Jeremy_Holmes · September 19, 2019, 12:40am

2012 Domaine Jacques Carillon Bienvenues-Bâtard-Montrachet - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Bienvenues-Bâtard-Montrachet Grand Cru (9/15/2019)
A gorgeous nose of honeysuckle, Arum Lily, white peach and mineral. It is full, unctuous and voluminous, with great power and poise. It is complex and impeccably balanced, drinking right at the top of its game. There’s fresh grapefruit acidity to the extremely long finish.

Posted from CellarTracker

Kris_Patten · September 19, 2019, 3:48am

Love BBM and will look out for Carillon. Kudos on slumming on a weeknight.

alan_weinberg · September 19, 2019, 7:32am

nice weekday house wine. Hard to find that bottle around here now.

Laurent_Gibet · September 19, 2019, 9:45am

I was lucky enough to taste the Jacques Carillon BBM 2016 at the domain in 2017.

Extraordinary chardonnay : 19/20

Mark_Thompson · September 19, 2019, 1:20pm

I thought the ‘13 was very good when I first tried it, but with air it blossomed into possibly the most aromatically complex dry white I’ve ever had. Granted, the sample size is probably 5% of the red sample size at this point, but there are a few really good wines in there. To Alan’s point though, it is incredibly difficult to find. And I’d prefer to find and drink it young to reduce premox risk.

Greg_K · September 19, 2019, 1:52pm

Carillon hasn’t been a big premox offender from my experience. His BBM production is tiny, which is what makes it difficult to find - I think he owns about .1 of a hectare, so can’t be that many bottles made in the first place.

Matthew_King · September 19, 2019, 3:25pm

We had the 09 last week. I feared pox or vintage flabbiness. But neither appeared. Delightfully floral, but chiseled.

CFu · September 19, 2019, 3:27pm

hate

CFu · September 19, 2019, 3:28pm

07 had some big time premox issues. Also have had premox’d 2000,2001,2002 from him.

Matthew_King · September 19, 2019, 4:00pm

Hate is such a strong word, Charlie.

Birds who don’t fly the coop get the late worms!

Nathan_Smyth · September 19, 2019, 5:21pm

07 had some big time premox issues. Also have had premox’d 2000,2001,2002 from > him > his Dad?

B_Buzzini · September 19, 2019, 5:49pm

Hmmm…

4/7/2013 - clayfu favorite wrote:

-2007-

“big ol wine. Way too young right now as the wine isn’t balanced. But what it’s lacking in balance it makes up for in power and richness. Everything is classic BBM but ramped up to an 11 on a scale of 1-10 (in a good way, incredible power, sweet fruit, acid). With time it’ll tone down and balance out and just be an INSANE drink.”

"8/2/2013 - clayfu favorite wrote:

-2001-

Such a dense citrus core on this wine. The depth of fruit just goes on and on. The expansiveness of the palate isn’t quite there yet as it’s still young and fighting to get out, but the texture is so soft like so many other great 2001’s. The acid has integrated."

CFu · September 19, 2019, 6:14pm

Carillon hasn’t been a big premox offender from my experience. His BBM production is tiny, which is what makes it difficult to find - I think he owns about .1 of a hectare, so can’t be that many bottles made in the first place.

07 had some big time premox issues. Also have had premox’d 2000,2001,2002 from him.

Hmmm…

4/7/2013 - clayfu favorite wrote:

-2007-

“big ol wine. Way too young right now as the wine isn’t balanced. But what it’s lacking in balance it makes up for in power and richness. Everything is classic BBM but ramped up to an 11 on a scale of 1-10 (in a good way, incredible power, sweet fruit, acid). With time it’ll tone down and balance out and just be an INSANE drink.”

"8/2/2013 - clayfu favorite wrote:

-2001-

Such a dense citrus core on this wine. The depth of fruit just goes on and on. The expansiveness of the palate isn’t quite there yet as it’s still young and fighting to get out, but the texture is so soft like so many other great 2001’s. The acid has integrated."

Well… considering I bought a case of 2007 and only posted 2 notes…

Greg_K · September 19, 2019, 6:33pm

That’s his dad, though yes, his 2007s are somewhat notorious. From my (admittedly relatively limited experience) his earlier vintages have a relatively low premox rate, though obviously that may not be the case for everyone.
I’ll put it this way - other than his 2007s, I’d buy his 2000s stuff now. (Again, talking about Louis here, obviously.)

Rauno_E_NZ · September 19, 2019, 7:35pm

I only have a couple of 1ers left from 2007, so will line them up soon. In some ways, the BBM can age less well than the 1ers, which are done in a leaner style. But I also believe it can appear somewhat advanced simply because of its fruit weight rather than oxidation as such. The 2005 is very interesting as it is relatively dark but with such massive (and now developed) fruit that it could actually last on that quite a while. I must get around to doing a vertical

alan_weinberg · September 19, 2019, 8:08pm

a 96 hand carried from Burgundy by me was hopelessly premoxed about 2001.

Greg_K · September 19, 2019, 8:13pm

I think you’re responding to Charlie rather than me, but data point noted.

Mark_Thompson · September 19, 2019, 8:27pm

[/quote]

Well… considering I bought a case of 2007 and only posted 2 notes…
[/quote]

Flawed
Flawed
Flawed
Flawed
Flawed
Flawed
Flawed
Flawed
Flawed
Flawed.

Ouch. (I just bought I high-end mag of Bordeaux yesterday and didn’t notice SPS until after the auction closed so I’m already anticipating a similar feeling).

CFu · September 19, 2019, 9:26pm