2017 Scarecrow M. Etain

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2017 Scarecrow M. Etain

#1 Post by Frank Z » September 21st, 2019, 6:41 pm

Anyone heard anything about the 2017 Scarecrow M. Etain?

Got the postcard last week and offered up to 6 bottles at $195/per.

Looking for feedback! Thanks!
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#2 Post by Frank Z » September 21st, 2019, 6:50 pm

Apparently they ramped up their production...

2016 vintage was 850 cases; 2017 was 2,050 cases
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#3 Post by JohnP » September 21st, 2019, 7:44 pm

Does anyone know if Scarecrow production has increased 2.5x too?
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#4 Post by C. Keller » September 21st, 2019, 8:22 pm

Is the increased production the actual Scarecrow grapes? I thought I heard that there will be no Scarecrow in 2017. I could be completely wrong.
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#5 Post by blarmston » September 21st, 2019, 8:24 pm

I also got the offer letter, and would love to know if the above were true. ‘Crow and M’Etain are one of the few lists I am buying from for 2017, and it would be interesting to know if they are or are not releasing the main bottling. Anyone know Celia or the folks over there?
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#6 Post by Andrew Ing » September 22nd, 2019, 12:54 pm

I'm interested in this too. I've been on the list and I think this is the first time I've received an offer - allocated 6 bottles.
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#7 Post by JFertitta » September 22nd, 2019, 2:27 pm

C. Keller wrote:
September 21st, 2019, 8:22 pm
Is the increased production the actual Scarecrow grapes? I thought I heard that there will be no Scarecrow in 2017. I could be completely wrong.
Pretty sure that was Screaming Eagle?
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#8 Post by jeffruggels » September 22nd, 2019, 2:40 pm

i ave not heard anything regarding Scarecrow not releasing a 2017

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#9 Post by Anthony Pearce » September 22nd, 2019, 3:10 pm

Andrew Ing wrote:
September 22nd, 2019, 12:54 pm
I'm interested in this too. I've been on the list and I think this is the first time I've received an offer - allocated 6 bottles.
I just joined the list about 2 months ago and got an offer for 6 bottles.

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#10 Post by David Baum » September 22nd, 2019, 5:55 pm

Production is usually 1500 to 2000. 2016 was a very low production unusual year. 2017 looks higher than most but not dramatically so

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#11 Post by Bill G » September 23rd, 2019, 2:45 pm

On the fence here. $195 plus a 6 bottle commitment is causing hesitation.

Its first come first serve so I am guessing purchasing (or passing) will not impact your Scarecrow position like prior years?

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#12 Post by ykwon » September 23rd, 2019, 3:04 pm

It won’t as usual:
We are delighted to announce the upcoming 10th release of our Monsieur Étain Cabernet Sauvignon. As always, this 2017 vintage has been produced entirely from grapes grown on the J.J. Cohn Estate in Rutherford.

We were moved by the outreach of so many of you during the perilous fires of 2017, and are fortunate to share that all of our fruit was harvested and secured before smoke or fire affected the valley.

You will receive a written invitation soon with more details about this release, which opens in the first week of October. Orders will be honored on a first-come, first-served basis. Please note: past vintages have sold out in a matter of days.

As a reminder, the purchase of M. Étain has no bearing on your wait list position for a Scarecrow offering.

Finally, a cautionary note about 'unsubscribing'; If you opt to unsubscribe when you receive any of our messages, we will be blocked from sending you any further email communication, including offers to purchase.

We encourage you to review the winemaker notes and harvest report from our team on this extraordinary vintage.

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#13 Post by Mike Van1 » September 23rd, 2019, 6:23 pm

Bill G wrote:
September 23rd, 2019, 2:45 pm
On the fence here. $195 plus a 6 bottle commitment is causing hesitation.

Its first come first serve so I am guessing purchasing (or passing) will not impact your Scarecrow position like prior years?

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Don’t need to purchase all 6 allocated. You’ll have the option to purchase up to three 2-packs in wood or a 6-pack in Kraft.
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#14 Post by Demian Saenz » September 23rd, 2019, 7:55 pm

Looking at the case numbers from 2016 : M. Etain = 850 & Scarecrow = 2,000, and in the 2017 M. Etain notes they call 2017 as very similar to 2011.

In 2011 they had 750 cases of Scarecrow, and 1,300 cases of M. Etain so we should expect ~ 800 cases of Scarecrow because M. Etain is at 2,050

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#15 Post by Jeremy Charmak » September 27th, 2019, 6:25 pm

That gives me pause. Has anyone seen any tasting notes or review comments on this vintage?

"2017 was the most challenging growing season since 2011. Thankfully, the natural attributes of the site, the vineyard architecture, and the people involved made it possible to harvest each of the blocks at their optimal maturity."

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#16 Post by Craig G » September 28th, 2019, 1:25 am

Mike Van1 wrote:
September 23rd, 2019, 6:23 pm
Bill G wrote:
September 23rd, 2019, 2:45 pm
On the fence here. $195 plus a 6 bottle commitment is causing hesitation.

Its first come first serve so I am guessing purchasing (or passing) will not impact your Scarecrow position like prior years?

B
Don’t need to purchase all 6 allocated. You’ll have the option to purchase up to three 2-packs in wood or a 6-pack in Kraft.
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#17 Post by blarmston » September 28th, 2019, 7:56 am

I was offered 6, only taking 2. If they reduce my allocation next year, so be it.
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#18 Post by KyleC » October 2nd, 2019, 12:04 pm

Just got the reminder email but I think I'm passing this vintage.
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#19 Post by Bill G » October 2nd, 2019, 12:48 pm

KyleC wrote:
October 2nd, 2019, 12:04 pm
Just got the reminder email but I think I'm passing this vintage.
Same here. I went overboard this fall...
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#20 Post by NED VALOIS » October 2nd, 2019, 1:47 pm

ditto !

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#21 Post by Scott Brunson » October 2nd, 2019, 2:47 pm

NED VALOIS wrote:
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ditto !
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#22 Post by P Sepsas » October 2nd, 2019, 2:50 pm

I am only subscribed at WA and the 2017 vintage haven't been reviewed yet. Do we have a indication if it is going to be regarded as good as the 2016 or 2013? Or as bad as the 2011?
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#23 Post by SeanHarding » October 2nd, 2019, 4:05 pm

For those considering skipping this year, just a data point: the only vintage of this I have ever purchased was 2014 (2 bottles), and they are still sending me offers. I don't know what the official policy is, but it doesn't seem that you're at much risk of being booted from the list for not buying one year.

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#24 Post by PaulMills » October 2nd, 2019, 5:26 pm

The only vintage I bought was 2013 (four bottles) and I still get offers.

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#25 Post by blarmston » October 2nd, 2019, 6:24 pm

I am going to buy a couple in order to keep my mini vertical going (‘12-‘17), and I trust that they won’t put out clearly inferior product.
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#26 Post by R_Gilbane » October 3rd, 2019, 5:37 am

I’m skipping buying the bottles but count me in for a pair of cuff links and 2 of those (chic) leather, wine safety harnesses. Does anyone know if the safety harnesses are compatible with non-Scarecrow wine bottles? If not, I’m worried about the overall lack of utility (but that won’t stop me from buying).
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#27 Post by Ian Dorin » October 3rd, 2019, 5:51 am

The production of the two wines changes based on quality. The 2016 Scarecrow production was way up due to how amazing the vintage was, and you got a lot of "Scarecrow" character in the vintages. In 2017, M. Etain production is way up as they did not feel the quality of the fruit coming in hit the high that they wanted.

FWIW, I really like the last few vintages of M. Etain.
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#28 Post by dennis.coronado » October 3rd, 2019, 5:59 am

R_Gilbane wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 5:37 am
I’m skipping buying the bottles but count me in for a pair of cuff links and 2 of those (chic) leather, wine safety harnesses. Does anyone know if the safety harnesses are compatible with non-Scarecrow wine bottles? If not, I’m worried about the overall lack of utility (but that won’t stop me from buying).
I guess this is sarcasm. I did purchase a scarecrow medallion for my wife and she loves it. FYI--it is worth more than I paid for it since price of gold went up.

If not sarcasm, enjoy the new baubles.

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#29 Post by Bdklein » October 3rd, 2019, 6:10 am

Ian Dorin wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 5:51 am
The production of the two wines changes based on quality. The 2016 Scarecrow production was way up due to how amazing the vintage was, and you got a lot of "Scarecrow" character in the vintages. In 2017, M. Etain production is way up as they did not feel the quality of the fruit coming in hit the high that they wanted.

FWIW, I really like the last few vintages of M. Etain.
Any insight on 2017 Scarecrow?
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#30 Post by P Sepsas » October 3rd, 2019, 10:12 am

FWIW, I got a case of two. I thought that on the next vintage it could be more than $200/bottle and decided to jump in.

I also got a leather bag for my BYOB events.
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#31 Post by Jeff_M. » October 3rd, 2019, 10:47 am

Hard pass. $40 to ship two bottles doesn't help on a small 2 pack.
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#32 Post by Demian Saenz » October 3rd, 2019, 11:03 am

Jeff_M. wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 10:47 am
Hard pass. $40 to ship two bottles doesn't help on a small 2 pack.
I’m with you. My shipping to MA is $52 for 2 bottles. I’d rather buy 2 bottles of Monte Bello.

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#33 Post by Ian Dorin » October 3rd, 2019, 11:05 am

Bdklein wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 6:10 am
Ian Dorin wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 5:51 am
The production of the two wines changes based on quality. The 2016 Scarecrow production was way up due to how amazing the vintage was, and you got a lot of "Scarecrow" character in the vintages. In 2017, M. Etain production is way up as they did not feel the quality of the fruit coming in hit the high that they wanted.

FWIW, I really like the last few vintages of M. Etain.
Any insight on 2017 Scarecrow?
Sadly no. I only tasted wine in bottle, and when I was there, the 2017 was not ready.
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#34 Post by M. Taylor » October 3rd, 2019, 11:18 am

Went ahead and bought a 2-pack. Will lay it down for a good while.
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#35 Post by Bdklein » October 3rd, 2019, 11:32 am

Ian Dorin wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 11:05 am
Bdklein wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 6:10 am
Ian Dorin wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 5:51 am
The production of the two wines changes based on quality. The 2016 Scarecrow production was way up due to how amazing the vintage was, and you got a lot of "Scarecrow" character in the vintages. In 2017, M. Etain production is way up as they did not feel the quality of the fruit coming in hit the high that they wanted.

FWIW, I really like the last few vintages of M. Etain.
Any insight on 2017 Scarecrow?
Sadly no. I only tasted wine in bottle, and when I was there, the 2017 was not ready.
Thanks . Guess time will tell if it is bottled/released.
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#36 Post by R_Gilbane » October 3rd, 2019, 1:08 pm

dennis.coronado wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 5:59 am
R_Gilbane wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 5:37 am
I’m skipping buying the bottles but count me in for a pair of cuff links and 2 of those (chic) leather, wine safety harnesses. Does anyone know if the safety harnesses are compatible with non-Scarecrow wine bottles? If not, I’m worried about the overall lack of utility (but that won’t stop me from buying).
I guess this is sarcasm. I did purchase a scarecrow medallion for my wife and she loves it. FYI--it is worth more than I paid for it since price of gold went up.

If not sarcasm, enjoy the new baubles.
You should sell it and buy 2 medallions with the proceeds. Your wife would love it twice as much!
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#37 Post by Jeremy Charmak » October 3rd, 2019, 3:01 pm

I took the Six pack with $35 in shipping. No wooden boxes

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#38 Post by dennis.coronado » October 3rd, 2019, 7:01 pm

R_Gilbane wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 1:08 pm
dennis.coronado wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 5:59 am
R_Gilbane wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 5:37 am
I’m skipping buying the bottles but count me in for a pair of cuff links and 2 of those (chic) leather, wine safety harnesses. Does anyone know if the safety harnesses are compatible with non-Scarecrow wine bottles? If not, I’m worried about the overall lack of utility (but that won’t stop me from buying).
I guess this is sarcasm. I did purchase a scarecrow medallion for my wife and she loves it. FYI--it is worth more than I paid for it since price of gold went up.

If not sarcasm, enjoy the new baubles.
You should sell it and buy 2 medallions with the proceeds. Your wife would love it twice as much!
Can't sell it. There is more to the story that you would not understand.

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