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#351 Post by R M Kriete » June 22nd, 2020, 5:27 am

R. Somerville wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 4:41 am
Chris Seiber wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 11:36 pm
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And now the thread should be moved to Politics. I don’t expect that, but it’s gone WAY beyond wine or the winery’s email. At the very least it should go to Asylum, off of the wine feed.
Here is the text of the rule, as copied from the Wine Berserkers rules:

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Simply, NOT allowed on any forum other than the Politics forum, which you can join and get access to via your User Control Panel (see the sticky above the Asylum on joining groups).
Thought that the first page and here we are seven pages later!
Since calling people a racist doesn't get it moved, perhaps we are just waiting for Godwin's Law to take effect? ( "as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1".) [wink.gif]

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#352 Post by R. Somerville » June 22nd, 2020, 6:18 am

R M Kriete wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 5:27 am
R. Somerville wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 4:41 am
Chris Seiber wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 11:36 pm


Here is the text of the rule, as copied from the Wine Berserkers rules:

Politics:

Simply, NOT allowed on any forum other than the Politics forum, which you can join and get access to via your User Control Panel (see the sticky above the Asylum on joining groups).
Thought that the first page and here we are seven pages later!
Since calling people a racist doesn't get it moved, perhaps we are just waiting for Godwin's Law to take effect? ( "as an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1".) [wink.gif]
Yes, I too was surprised that being alluded as a racist didn't lead to an instant ban. Although the op's question was genuine, think he was being a tad naive if he didn't think it might tangent towards the p word.

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#353 Post by Anton D » June 22nd, 2020, 6:59 am

AndyK wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 8:21 pm
Rob Weaver wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 5:51 pm
I’m reminded of Jeremiah 17:9-

The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?

Each and everyone of you who has boycotted anything is rightfully the subject of the same if your deeds and thoughts were exposed. You are no better than the person or organization you choose to disdain, you are just flawed in a different and hidden way.
What?
Jeremiah, is he that guy they named one of those big bottles after?

Anyway, I think he was saying “Who are you to judge? Shut up and buy my wine.”

He must have been French.
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#354 Post by Markus S » June 22nd, 2020, 7:12 am

AndyK wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 8:21 pm
Rob Weaver wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 5:51 pm
I’m reminded of Jeremiah 17:9-

The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?

Each and everyone of you who has boycotted anything is rightfully the subject of the same if your deeds and thoughts were exposed. You are no better than the person or organization you choose to disdain, you are just flawed in a different and hidden way.
What?
Basically, we're all F*d up. (same thing about casting stones, picking out the beam in your eye, etc. All in the Bible if you want to read it)
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#355 Post by Mel Knox » June 22nd, 2020, 7:58 am

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#356 Post by CJ Beazley » June 22nd, 2020, 8:09 am

Rob Weaver wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 5:51 pm
I’m reminded of Jeremiah 17:9-

The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?

Each and everyone of you who has boycotted anything is rightfully the subject of the same if your deeds and thoughts were exposed. You are no better than the person or organization you choose to disdain, you are just flawed in a different and hidden way.
Is that the same book that talks about selling your daughter into slavery, and not working on the sabbath, not touching a football cause it’s made from a dead pig and all that other horseshit?
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#357 Post by R. Somerville » June 22nd, 2020, 8:22 am

Hallelujah! [wink.gif]

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#358 Post by Paul Miller » June 22nd, 2020, 8:22 am

He’s not a bullfrog?

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#359 Post by Jonathan Grunzweig » June 22nd, 2020, 8:25 am

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Reminds me of Jeremiah 18:12 " blessed be the ignore button"
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In the spirit of keeping this wine-related, can I suggest you perhaps means to refer to 18:55?

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#360 Post by Anton D » June 22nd, 2020, 8:27 am

Paul Miller wrote:
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He’s not a bullfrog?
Well maybe, he's hard to understand and it does relate to helping drink someone's wine. [cheers.gif]

Is he the same guy who got rich while shootin' shooting at some food?
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#361 Post by Anton D » June 22nd, 2020, 8:30 am

Jonathan Grunzweig wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 8:25 am
Reminds me of Jeremiah 18:12 " blessed be the ignore button"
[/quote]

In the spirit of keeping this wine-related, can I suggest you perhaps means to refer to 18:55?

Jonathan
[/quote]

Actually the Bible commands us to sometimes boycott wine:

Ephesians 5:18: "Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with spirits."
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#362 Post by John Davis » June 22nd, 2020, 8:35 am

To get back on track, yes, I have boycotted several producers. All because of customer service issues. Some of the boycotts have lasted for decades and some have been forgiven. To me, it is just like any other product-if they piss you off enough you don't go back. The only political reason was Gallo when they sided with the wholesalers in the Indiana shipping suit many years ago. And they weren't that hard to avoid at the time.
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#363 Post by Bud Carey » June 22nd, 2020, 8:54 am

I stopped buying from 2 wineries over the years. One was due to lousy customer service. The other was due to the owner's very vocal political rants. I don't miss either one. Replacements were easy to find.
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#364 Post by Anton D » June 22nd, 2020, 9:53 am

Bud Carey wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 8:54 am
Replacements were easy to find.
That's the bottom line, it's a free marketplace.
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#365 Post by Brent C l a y t o n » June 22nd, 2020, 9:53 am

JBucholz wrote:
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It saddens me that politics has become such a team sport. It’s not enough any more to simply root for your team. You also have to actively declare your hatred for your rival.
I guess you are not a Yankees or Red Sox fan. [cheers.gif] champagne.gif
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#366 Post by R M Kriete » June 22nd, 2020, 10:46 am

CJ Beazley wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 8:09 am
Rob Weaver wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 5:51 pm
I’m reminded of Jeremiah 17:9-

The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?

Each and everyone of you who has boycotted anything is rightfully the subject of the same if your deeds and thoughts were exposed. You are no better than the person or organization you choose to disdain, you are just flawed in a different and hidden way.
Is that the same book that talks about selling your daughter into slavery, and not working on the sabbath, not touching a football cause it’s made from a dead pig and all that other horseshit?
And your feelings on the Koran?

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#367 Post by Markus S » June 22nd, 2020, 10:49 am

John Davis wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 8:35 am
...To me, it is just like any other product-...
[wow.gif]

So we need to delete and ignore all those threads about how "wine is art"??
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#368 Post by CJ Beazley » June 22nd, 2020, 10:54 am

R M Kriete wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 10:46 am
CJ Beazley wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 8:09 am
Rob Weaver wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 5:51 pm
I’m reminded of Jeremiah 17:9-

The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?

Each and everyone of you who has boycotted anything is rightfully the subject of the same if your deeds and thoughts were exposed. You are no better than the person or organization you choose to disdain, you are just flawed in a different and hidden way.
Is that the same book that talks about selling your daughter into slavery, and not working on the sabbath, not touching a football cause it’s made from a dead pig and all that other horseshit?
And your feelings on the Koran?
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#369 Post by Anton D » June 22nd, 2020, 11:06 am

R M Kriete wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 10:46 am
CJ Beazley wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 8:09 am
Rob Weaver wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 5:51 pm
I’m reminded of Jeremiah 17:9-

The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?

Each and everyone of you who has boycotted anything is rightfully the subject of the same if your deeds and thoughts were exposed. You are no better than the person or organization you choose to disdain, you are just flawed in a different and hidden way.
Is that the same book that talks about selling your daughter into slavery, and not working on the sabbath, not touching a football cause it’s made from a dead pig and all that other horseshit?
And your feelings on the Koran?
I've extensively studied all those books:

Bottom line...they mention the Golden Rule and then spend thousands of pages about when it's OK to violate the Golden Rule.
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#370 Post by R M Kriete » June 22nd, 2020, 11:50 am

Anton D wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 11:06 am
R M Kriete wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 10:46 am
CJ Beazley wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 8:09 am

Is that the same book that talks about selling your daughter into slavery, and not working on the sabbath, not touching a football cause it’s made from a dead pig and all that other horseshit?
And your feelings on the Koran?
I've extensively studied all those books:

Bottom line...they mention the Golden Rule and then spend thousands of pages about when it's OK to violate the Golden Rule.
Not the New Testament. Sadly, our feet are held to the fire.

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#371 Post by Marcus Goodfellow » June 22nd, 2020, 12:07 pm

Brent C l a y t o n wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 9:53 am
JBucholz wrote:
June 18th, 2020, 7:37 am
It saddens me that politics has become such a team sport. It’s not enough any more to simply root for your team. You also have to actively declare your hatred for your rival.
I guess you are not a Yankees or Red Sox fan. [cheers.gif] champagne.gif
Ah yes, lets not forget that it’s perfectly acceptable to hate both sides...

But at least in baseball the Yankees and Red Sox rivalry is entertaining.
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#372 Post by Neal.Mollen » June 22nd, 2020, 12:10 pm

Anton D wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 6:59 am
AndyK wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 8:21 pm
Rob Weaver wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 5:51 pm
I’m reminded of Jeremiah 17:9-

The heart is deceitful above all things
and beyond cure.
Who can understand it?

Each and everyone of you who has boycotted anything is rightfully the subject of the same if your deeds and thoughts were exposed. You are no better than the person or organization you choose to disdain, you are just flawed in a different and hidden way.
What?
Jeremiah, is he that guy they named one of those big bottles after?
Nah. He was a bullfrog, I think.
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#373 Post by R M Kriete » June 22nd, 2020, 12:15 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 12:10 pm
Anton D wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 6:59 am
AndyK wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 8:21 pm

What?
Jeremiah, is he that guy they named one of those big bottles after?
Nah. He was a bullfrog, I think.
Actually, was a good friend of mine!

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#374 Post by Neal.Mollen » June 22nd, 2020, 12:16 pm

R M Kriete wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 12:15 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 12:10 pm
Anton D wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 6:59 am


Jeremiah, is he that guy they named one of those big bottles after?
Nah. He was a bullfrog, I think.
Actually, was a good friend of mine!
bet you helped him drink his wine too
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#375 Post by Anton D » June 22nd, 2020, 12:57 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 12:16 pm
R M Kriete wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 12:15 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 12:10 pm

Nah. He was a bullfrog, I think.
Actually, was a good friend of mine!
bet you helped him drink his wine too
I heard he put ice cubes in it, though.
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#376 Post by MitchTallan » June 22nd, 2020, 1:16 pm

I boycott every winery in Sonoma because I am sick of seeing a sticky about tips on visiting Sonoma on this Board.
What makes Sonoma so important of all the winemaking regions in the World?
Why not Mendocino or Central Coast or Temecula? Temecula needs all the visitors they can get.
The other stickies don't bother me. Just that one.
And if Trimpi or Alfert call me "quirky" [again] over this, there will be bloody hell to pay.
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#377 Post by MBerto » June 22nd, 2020, 1:20 pm

Jeff Rosenberg wrote:
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Perhaps my original reply to this topic (#5) would have better been stated as follows: An certain winery sent an unsolicited email supporting a social activist movement that has become divisive and politically volatile. As my email address was provided for business purposes only, I was annoyed and asked to be removed from their database. They obliged and I am no longer a customer.


There. Is that better?
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#378 Post by Wes Barton » June 22nd, 2020, 2:31 pm

Anton D wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 8:30 am
Actually the Bible commands us to sometimes boycott wine:

Ephesians 5:18: "Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with spirits."
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#379 Post by David Baum » June 22nd, 2020, 2:52 pm

Groannnn......more boycott all wineries failure. Picked up some more 2016 Scavino Barolo Bric Del Fiasc from Winex after hearing Tristan loved it as much as I did. They came through my LWS early this year for a pre-arrival offer tasting. I ordered some then but its landed now and price was better than what i paid my LWS

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#380 Post by Anton D » June 22nd, 2020, 3:13 pm

David Baum wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 2:52 pm
Groannnn......more boycott all wineries failure. Picked up some more 2016 Scavino Barolo Bric Del Fiasc from Winex after hearing Tristan loved it as much as I did. They came through my LWS early this year for a pre-arrival offer tasting. I ordered some then but its landed now and price was better than what i paid my LWS
Awesome, Jerry Jones is part owner of that winery.
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#381 Post by David Baum » June 22nd, 2020, 3:14 pm

Anton D wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 3:13 pm
David Baum wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 2:52 pm
Groannnn......more boycott all wineries failure. Picked up some more 2016 Scavino Barolo Bric Del Fiasc from Winex after hearing Tristan loved it as much as I did. They came through my LWS early this year for a pre-arrival offer tasting. I ordered some then but its landed now and price was better than what i paid my LWS
Awesome, Jerry Jones is part owner of that winery.
Order cancelled. F that guy

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#382 Post by Anton D » June 22nd, 2020, 3:20 pm

David Baum wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 3:14 pm
Anton D wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 3:13 pm
David Baum wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 2:52 pm
Groannnn......more boycott all wineries failure. Picked up some more 2016 Scavino Barolo Bric Del Fiasc from Winex after hearing Tristan loved it as much as I did. They came through my LWS early this year for a pre-arrival offer tasting. I ordered some then but its landed now and price was better than what i paid my LWS
Awesome, Jerry Jones is part owner of that winery.
Order cancelled. F that guy
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#383 Post by R. Somerville » June 22nd, 2020, 4:02 pm

Once everyone on here has boycotted every winery it'll be rich pickings for the rest of us. [wow.gif]

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#384 Post by Leonard Maran » June 22nd, 2020, 7:09 pm

R. Somerville wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 4:02 pm
Once everyone on here has boycotted every winery it'll be rich pickings for the rest of us. [wow.gif]
Well, of course this is a joke. There has been one winery that I would never buy from again. Here goes, ancient history.....there was a time, a long time ago, when, with vintages 1982-1984, Keenan Winery was comparing their Merlot to Chateau Petrus. And I mean in a big way, they had a harpist at the venue and, it was at that time, very au courant. Well those wines when downhill so fast, and they were so oxidized, so that I wrote a courteous letter to Keenan about them. No response at all, zilch..Now, I don't buy Keenan, but nor do I have any animus towards the winery. But they do not have any wines on offer that I cannot buy elsewhere. Boycott can be a subjective term, no one is suffering, in terms of my stance, but for me it is not about that, it's about morality for me.

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#385 Post by Bryan Price » June 22nd, 2020, 9:41 pm

MitchTallan wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 1:16 pm
I boycott every winery in Sonoma because I am sick of seeing a sticky about tips on visiting Sonoma on this Board.
What makes Sonoma so important of all the winemaking regions in the World?
Why not Mendocino or Central Coast or Temecula? Temecula needs all the visitors they can get.
The other stickies don't bother me. Just that one.
And if Trimpi or Alfert call me "quirky" [again] over this, there will be bloody hell to pay.
Feel free to organize a really extensive list of any of those regions and I'm sure Todd will sticky it. The reason Sonoma was stickied was someone who lives there decided to make a really nice list to share with others. I agree with you Mendocino and Central Coast deserve one too, although other people will be offended by the term "Central Coast" as that makes up many disparate wine regions.
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#386 Post by Brandon R » June 23rd, 2020, 8:24 am

I think Mitch was joking, Bryan.
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#387 Post by larry schaffer » June 23rd, 2020, 8:58 am

MitchTallan wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 1:16 pm
I boycott every winery in Sonoma because I am sick of seeing a sticky about tips on visiting Sonoma on this Board.
What makes Sonoma so important of all the winemaking regions in the World?
Why not Mendocino or Central Coast or Temecula? Temecula needs all the visitors they can get.
The other stickies don't bother me. Just that one.
And if Trimpi or Alfert call me "quirky" [again] over this, there will be bloody hell to pay.
I'm cool with all of this . . . except PLEASE don't say 'Central Coast', my friend. You and I both know you meant Santa Barbara County! champagne.gif [snort.gif] [swearing.gif] [stirthepothal.gif]
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#388 Post by Greg Pierce » June 30th, 2020, 5:29 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 12:16 pm
R M Kriete wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 12:15 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 12:10 pm

Nah. He was a bullfrog, I think.
Actually, was a good friend of mine!
bet you helped him drink his wine too
Well, he always had some mighty fine wine, so why not?

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#389 Post by scotteisner » June 30th, 2020, 8:29 pm

I will not buy from Keever ever again. I had a very unpleasant experience many years ago when my group was charged tasting fees. We bought in excess of 2 cases and we stopped by to buy wine only and Olga Keever's son insisted we taste the current release.
Great wine but we all felt abused.

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#390 Post by Brian Tuite » July 1st, 2020, 6:13 am

Anton D wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 2:37 pm
I boycott one winery because of their ridiculous PIA wine bottle size.
More for me!
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#391 Post by Brian Tuite » July 1st, 2020, 6:21 am

MitchTallan wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 1:16 pm
I boycott every winery in Sonoma because I am sick of seeing a sticky about tips on visiting Sonoma on this Board.
What makes Sonoma so important of all the winemaking regions in the World?
Why not Mendocino or Central Coast or Temecula? Temecula needs all the visitors they can get.
The other stickies don't bother me. Just that one.
And if Trimpi or Alfert call me "quirky" [again] over this, there will be bloody hell to pay.
You don’t like it, put 300 or so hours into building a helpful guide to the wine region you live in.

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#392 Post by rbreitkreutz » July 1st, 2020, 9:57 am

I appreciate this post. We all have to ask ourselves if the products and services that we purchase support issues and politics that we find upsetting and don't agree with. For me it has been small family-owned wineries that have been purchased by large groups and conglomerates such as Gallo purchasing Pahlmeyer or Jackson Family purchasing Copain that I have had to take pause and ask the same questions. Even if the wineries continue producing good wines it does not make me feel good about the purchase. And keeping up with who is owned by whom is a mind-numbing task unto itself.
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#393 Post by c fu » July 1st, 2020, 10:12 am

clean up the thread - if we're not allowing one side to call someone a racist, we also aren't allowing the other side to call others fascists.

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#394 Post by Anton D » July 1st, 2020, 10:19 am

Brian Tuite wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 6:13 am
Anton D wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 2:37 pm
I boycott one winery because of their ridiculous PIA wine bottle size.
More for me!
No, I am not talking about Carlo Rossi.

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#395 Post by Brian Tuite » July 1st, 2020, 10:33 am

Anton D wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 10:19 am
Brian Tuite wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 6:13 am
Anton D wrote:
June 21st, 2020, 2:37 pm
I boycott one winery because of their ridiculous PIA wine bottle size.
More for me!
No, I am not talking about Carlo Rossi.

[cheers.gif] [cheers.gif] [cheers.gif]
Oh [pwn.gif]
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#396 Post by Anton D » July 1st, 2020, 11:00 am

Brian Tuite wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 10:33 am
Anton D wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 10:19 am
Brian Tuite wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 6:13 am


More for me!
No, I am not talking about Carlo Rossi.

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Oh [pwn.gif]
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#397 Post by Scott G r u n e r » July 1st, 2020, 11:09 am

I know this has been said, but not supporting business or people that have discriminatory viewpoints or policies, or actively denigrate the environment is not political- it is simply doing what is right.

I should actually go further that in many cases not supporting them is not enough- you should actively fight against them.
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#398 Post by ryancurry » July 1st, 2020, 11:20 am

Bill G wrote:
June 16th, 2020, 3:03 pm
Might be getting too political here but I don't like people using their companies as a vehicle to push their personal political agenda. Corporations should stay out of politics. (Side note if it matters - I am a minority)
I'm for campaign finance reform too.
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#399 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » July 1st, 2020, 11:46 am

I am glad to know that the wineries I purchase from actually stand for something.

It strikes me as rather emblematic of privilege to proclaim "I don't want to hear it." It's easy enough to delete the email if you don't want to read it.
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#400 Post by Brian Tuite » July 1st, 2020, 12:46 pm

Scott G r u n e r wrote:
July 1st, 2020, 11:09 am
I know this has been said, but not supporting business or people that have discriminatory viewpoints or policies, or actively denigrate the environment is not political- it is simply doing what is right.

I should actually go further that in many cases not supporting them is not enough- you should actively fight against them.
I agree and the winery in the OP was not doing any of those things. But rather the opposite. Damned if you do, dammed if you don’t huh.
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