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#1 Post by Len Stevens » July 8th, 2020, 1:09 pm

I was surprised no one wrote a thread...if I missed it, I truly apologize. This is my favorite Cali Cab with the exception of Spottswoode. I was lucky enough to talk with Roy last night for about 15 minutes (What a humble, terrific guy) and he shared a couple of wonderful, upcoming treats. I don't want to divulge as it is not my place, but buyers are going to have some amazing opportunities coming up.

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#2 Post by William Segui » July 8th, 2020, 1:17 pm

I'm pretty sure this is just a small first wave of folks. Roy has had a lot on his plate of late and having been fortunate to try the 18 out of barrel a few times, he's smart to release slowly as I'm sure the demand is greater than the supply.

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#3 Post by Anton D » July 8th, 2020, 1:21 pm

Piper, William and Mary, and MacDonald are the top three cabs I have discovered thanks to this place! (Rivers Marie, Ceritas, Myriad/Quivet/Becklyn are up there, as well.)

The videos Roy Piper makes are awesome and have been a real education.
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#4 Post by Len Stevens » July 8th, 2020, 1:37 pm

Anton D wrote:
July 8th, 2020, 1:21 pm
Piper, William and Mary, and MacDonald are the top three cabs I have discovered thanks to this place! (Rivers Marie, Ceritas, Myriad/Quivet/Becklyn are up there, as well.)

The videos Roy Piper makes are awesome and have been a real education.
I couldn't agree more Anton, love his videos!

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#5 Post by Ken Strauss » July 8th, 2020, 1:54 pm

Terrific wine!
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Also love the videos.
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#6 Post by Rodrigo F. » July 8th, 2020, 5:06 pm

I hope I get lucky and get something allocated... keep hearing good things about RP and his wines so am dying to get some
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#7 Post by Frank Z » July 8th, 2020, 5:11 pm

Haven’t received the open email yet but I recall Roy saying in a previous email that he’d begin releases today. Looking forward to being allocated some hopefully.
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#8 Post by J. Rock » July 8th, 2020, 5:20 pm

I hear a lot of praise for Roy Piper on this site, but haven't tasted any yet. What style is it in? How does it compare to other Cabs?
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#9 Post by Frank Z » July 9th, 2020, 6:02 pm

Just got my order in! Really excited for these! Thanks so much Roy! [cheers.gif]
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#10 Post by Josh Grossman » July 9th, 2020, 6:08 pm

Hoping I make the list. I was offered back vintages earlier this summer, but no offer on the ‘18

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#11 Post by Josh Grossman » July 9th, 2020, 6:21 pm

J. Rock wrote:
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I hear a lot of praise for Roy Piper on this site, but haven't tasted any yet. What style is it in? How does it compare to other Cabs?
Roy is a participant on the forums if you search his name. He also puts out great videos. I would say Roy doesn’t partially go down a rabbit hole. He is the white rabbit and the king of hearts. He makes a blend, but it’s top vineyards that go in it:
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#12 Post by M. Taylor » July 13th, 2020, 7:49 pm

Got the e-mail a few days ago, got distracted, but ordered today. Great guy, great wine.
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#13 Post by Rodrigo F. » July 13th, 2020, 8:03 pm

Got a 14, 16 and 18. Thank you, Roy! Can't wait to try these!
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#14 Post by Brent S » July 13th, 2020, 10:29 pm

Ya, Roy is the man. Order in!
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#15 Post by Joe Raymond » July 20th, 2020, 11:02 pm

Got my email today and promptly ordered a three pack. I guess? I missed 2017 not sure how but the email was warm and friendly letting me know I missed and got this offer as a last chance before offering to waiting list customers. Tip of the cap to Roy for not just dumping customers to get to the next one. Not sure what happened but glad I got the chance to order again!! Loved the 2012 I had a few months back!!
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#16 Post by NED VALOIS » July 21st, 2020, 7:09 am

Spoke to him last week and ordered !

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#17 Post by David Crow » July 21st, 2020, 12:23 pm

Joe Raymond wrote:
July 20th, 2020, 11:02 pm
Got my email today and promptly ordered a three pack. I guess? I missed 2017 not sure how but the email was warm and friendly letting me know I missed and got this offer as a last chance before offering to waiting list customers.
Does this mean Roy is still planning to make an offer to the wait list?

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#18 Post by ERPark » July 21st, 2020, 2:53 pm

If there are still bottles remaining after the most recent tranche offered yesterday (to folks who had acquired of multiple offerings in the past, but skipped the 2017 offering), then those bottles would be offered to the “true waiting list”. As of the email announcement recd yesterday, there were 224 bottles remaining.
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#19 Post by Evan Tunis » July 23rd, 2020, 6:12 pm

I'm new to this wine and Roy was nice enough to call me and offer an allocation of 14, 16, 18. He couldn't of been nicer and am happy I purchased.

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#20 Post by MatthewT » July 23rd, 2020, 6:18 pm

Evan Tunis wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 6:12 pm
I'm new to this wine and Roy was nice enough to call me and offer an allocation of 14, 16, 18. He couldn't of been nicer and am happy I purchased.
I did same. Looking forward to trying.
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#21 Post by Josh Grossman » July 23rd, 2020, 6:40 pm

Len Stevens wrote:
July 8th, 2020, 1:37 pm
Anton D wrote:
July 8th, 2020, 1:21 pm
Piper, William and Mary, and MacDonald are the top three cabs I have discovered thanks to this place! (Rivers Marie, Ceritas, Myriad/Quivet/Becklyn are up there, as well.)

The videos Roy Piper makes are awesome and have been a real education.
I couldn't agree more Anton, love his videos!
2/3rds the way there. Just need to get on that MacDonald list now. In for a three pack on '18 Piper.

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#22 Post by NickRut » July 23rd, 2020, 6:50 pm

Are there any other wines out that these compare to? Anything similar?
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#23 Post by Mike Grammer » July 23rd, 2020, 6:58 pm

I'll offer what little help I can, from way back in 2018 when I visited with Roy. And yes, love spending time with him!

"A pleasure to see Roy again after 3 years. Here’s another guy who it was fun to discuss the “what changes in 6 years” question, because Roy at present is only making one wine. That is something that he does hope to change, with 2 more Oakville vineyard sources coming online for him, and a hope to get to 500 cases, but he also wants to stay focused and “compact”, if you will, and will continue to look at mailing list as his main base for sales. He cites PV as a single he wants to make but recognizes he’d almost need a brand new customer base for it. He is starting to think about leaving his wines a little less time in oak. Roy is another who cites educating and taking care of his clientele as things that are important to him. He also notes $100 + Cabs are beginning to be a commodity and he feels there may be a reckoning.

There was only the one wine to taste, but fascinating it certainly was. My compensation for that was that I might be the first person to have tried the new vintage in bottle, a mere 3 weeks old.

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14.6%, 97% CS with 3% Petit Verdot. I believe Moulds, Farrella and Houyi vineyards are the sources. Roy does a 15% bleed-off, then 20 months in 70% new oak, Bousset barrels. Aromatically, this sure wakes you up. Big spices presentation with nutmeg, allspice and clove, to buttress underlying plum fruit. Shockingly, this is already *really* good. The flavour is iron framing very beautiful blue and black fruit. Gains an attractive bitter twinge and depth with air.

We try a second pour from a different-shaped (Zalto more of a pinot-shaped) glass, where Roy shakes the wine a little. Gives much more beef blood in the nose and it’s remarkably more feral and aggressive on the palate vs. the finesse and sophistication in the normal Cab glass. Fascinating!"
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#24 Post by Brent S » July 23rd, 2020, 9:50 pm

Roy’s latest video on verasion is really enjoyable and educational at the same time. Loved it
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#25 Post by William Anzalone » July 24th, 2020, 7:40 am

MatthewT wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 6:18 pm
Evan Tunis wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 6:12 pm
I'm new to this wine and Roy was nice enough to call me and offer an allocation of 14, 16, 18. He couldn't of been nicer and am happy I purchased.
I did same. Looking forward to trying.
I am new to the waitlist and after watching Roy's video yesterday, I texted him to inquire about an offer for the 2018. He immediately called me back and we had a great conversation (what customer service). There was approximately 120 bottles left of the 2018 when we spoke and he wanted anyone with genuine interest on the waitlist to have 1st crack at them before going through the remainder of the waitlist. He also offered me, which I purchased, the 2014 and 2016 so I can get a feel for his style while waiting on the 2018 to be ready.

I am new to his wines but have followed his great posts on Wineberserkers for quiet a while and love his open and honest insight on many board topics. I'm really looking forward to having an opportunity to now try his wines. Thanks Berserkers for tuning me in to his wines!

Mike, thanks for digging up and posting your prior review of the 2016!
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#26 Post by Josh Grossman » July 24th, 2020, 8:24 am

Mike Grammer wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 6:58 pm
I'll offer what little help I can, from way back in 2018 when I visited with Roy. And yes, love spending time with him!

"A pleasure to see Roy again after 3 years. Here’s another guy who it was fun to discuss the “what changes in 6 years” question, because Roy at present is only making one wine. That is something that he does hope to change, with 2 more Oakville vineyard sources coming online for him, and a hope to get to 500 cases, but he also wants to stay focused and “compact”, if you will, and will continue to look at mailing list as his main base for sales. He cites PV as a single he wants to make but recognizes he’d almost need a brand new customer base for it. He is starting to think about leaving his wines a little less time in oak. Roy is another who cites educating and taking care of his clientele as things that are important to him. He also notes $100 + Cabs are beginning to be a commodity and he feels there may be a reckoning.

There was only the one wine to taste, but fascinating it certainly was. My compensation for that was that I might be the first person to have tried the new vintage in bottle, a mere 3 weeks old.

2016 Roy Piper Cabernet

14.6%, 97% CS with 3% Petit Verdot. I believe Moulds, Farrella and Houyi vineyards are the sources. Roy does a 15% bleed-off, then 20 months in 70% new oak, Bousset barrels. Aromatically, this sure wakes you up. Big spices presentation with nutmeg, allspice and clove, to buttress underlying plum fruit. Shockingly, this is already *really* good. The flavour is iron framing very beautiful blue and black fruit. Gains an attractive bitter twinge and depth with air.

We try a second pour from a different-shaped (Zalto more of a pinot-shaped) glass, where Roy shakes the wine a little. Gives much more beef blood in the nose and it’s remarkably more feral and aggressive on the palate vs. the finesse and sophistication in the normal Cab glass. Fascinating!"
I believe '18 is half Moulds and half Houyi. No Farella in the '18 at least.

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#27 Post by Josh Grossman » July 24th, 2020, 8:28 am

Josh Grossman wrote:
July 24th, 2020, 8:24 am
Mike Grammer wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 6:58 pm
I'll offer what little help I can, from way back in 2018 when I visited with Roy. And yes, love spending time with him!

"A pleasure to see Roy again after 3 years. Here’s another guy who it was fun to discuss the “what changes in 6 years” question, because Roy at present is only making one wine. That is something that he does hope to change, with 2 more Oakville vineyard sources coming online for him, and a hope to get to 500 cases, but he also wants to stay focused and “compact”, if you will, and will continue to look at mailing list as his main base for sales. He cites PV as a single he wants to make but recognizes he’d almost need a brand new customer base for it. He is starting to think about leaving his wines a little less time in oak. Roy is another who cites educating and taking care of his clientele as things that are important to him. He also notes $100 + Cabs are beginning to be a commodity and he feels there may be a reckoning.

There was only the one wine to taste, but fascinating it certainly was. My compensation for that was that I might be the first person to have tried the new vintage in bottle, a mere 3 weeks old.

2016 Roy Piper Cabernet

14.6%, 97% CS with 3% Petit Verdot. I believe Moulds, Farrella and Houyi vineyards are the sources. Roy does a 15% bleed-off, then 20 months in 70% new oak, Bousset barrels. Aromatically, this sure wakes you up. Big spices presentation with nutmeg, allspice and clove, to buttress underlying plum fruit. Shockingly, this is already *really* good. The flavour is iron framing very beautiful blue and black fruit. Gains an attractive bitter twinge and depth with air.

We try a second pour from a different-shaped (Zalto more of a pinot-shaped) glass, where Roy shakes the wine a little. Gives much more beef blood in the nose and it’s remarkably more feral and aggressive on the palate vs. the finesse and sophistication in the normal Cab glass. Fascinating!"
I believe '18 is half Moulds and half Houyi. No Farella in the '18 at least.

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#28 Post by Mike Grammer » July 25th, 2020, 4:12 pm

IIRC Farella is one of the vineyards that very unfortunately got torched in the 2017 fires. Roy?

(I'm pretty sure I remember talking with Jeff Ames about it and how he didn't make any Rudius wine from the vineyard that year).
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#29 Post by Roy Piper » July 25th, 2020, 9:24 pm

Mike Grammer wrote:
July 25th, 2020, 4:12 pm
IIRC Farella is one of the vineyards that very unfortunately got torched in the 2017 fires. Roy?

(I'm pretty sure I remember talking with Jeff Ames about it and how he didn't make any Rudius wine from the vineyard that year).
Yeah, the fires burned into his property that year. By 2018 Realm had started leasing the whole thing, so for me it was one and out. I've always liked what Realm did with that vineyard.
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