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#1 Post by PHuff » August 14th, 2020, 6:13 am

I know that pretty much every Summer, Napa has a heatwave, with temps >100', but this ten-day stretch looks particularly rough.......
For the winemakers on the Board, do any of you see any issues with this prolonged heat?
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#2 Post by Markus S » August 14th, 2020, 6:35 am

"Burgundian" climate??
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#3 Post by Josh Grossman » August 14th, 2020, 6:40 am

It’s not just Napa. Goes all over the SW to Texas. Fires and people dying of wet bulb heat index are the new normal. New record in Death Valley; a place of records.

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#4 Post by Tom DeBiase » August 14th, 2020, 6:56 am

Over the hill in Sonoma-Mendocino Counties pretty much the same. Of course there are micro climate areas within but in general it's going to be blistering hot for the next 6 days or so.

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#5 Post by Dennis Borczon » August 14th, 2020, 8:23 am

Oh my. I guess this is why those irrigation systems are in place in Napa. I would guess the vines will want to shut down with the heat and some sunburning could happen. But I doubt that anyone is doing any leaf pulling in Napa these days.

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#6 Post by Josh Grossman » August 14th, 2020, 8:31 am

117 in Phoenix today (and the next ten days are pretty close). AC or die.

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#7 Post by David Wright » August 14th, 2020, 8:35 am

Late July & August 2020, Phoenix. "But it's a dry heat."

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#8 Post by Josh Grossman » August 14th, 2020, 8:49 am

David Wright wrote:
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Late July & August 2020, Phoenix. "But it's a dry heat."


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Over 20% humidity for the next few days. Not that dry.

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#9 Post by MICHAEL C R O M W E L L » August 14th, 2020, 8:57 am

It’s downright frosty here in TX, highs around 100F, dry, with ‘only’ 40-45% humidity. Bring a sweater if you’re visiting.
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#10 Post by Dennis Atick » August 14th, 2020, 9:01 am

Josh Grossman wrote:
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117 in Phoenix today (and the next ten days are pretty close). AC or die.
We sometimes struggle to keep our old house cool with the ATL 70/90 all summer. Does your AC literally run 24/7 when the LOW temp is 90 for a month? I'm cringing at the thought of your power bill.
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#11 Post by Markus S » August 14th, 2020, 9:03 am

Josh Grossman wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 8:49 am
David Wright wrote:
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Late July & August 2020, Phoenix. "But it's a dry heat."


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Over 20% humidity for the next few days. Not that dry.
20% is a spitball, hardly noticeable.
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#12 Post by andrewkao » August 14th, 2020, 9:07 am

Heatwave is hitting Santa Barbara area too...eep!
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#13 Post by Merrill Lindquist » August 14th, 2020, 9:15 am

Already, after 99 degrees yesterday, the fruit is moving along quickly. Day after day of it? Probably some sunburn. Gave my vines a huge drink overnight. Fruit is mighty tasty this morning.
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#14 Post by KenL. » August 14th, 2020, 9:25 am

Already 81 in Yountville now. Forecasted high of 108. Where I am in contra costa, it never cooled down below 74 last night, which is very unusual.
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#15 Post by Jeff_M. » August 14th, 2020, 10:09 am

Gonna be a scorcher in Cali for the next week or so.
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#16 Post by Carole Meredith » August 14th, 2020, 10:25 am

Here's a good overview of what's in store for us in California

https://weatherwest.com/
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#17 Post by Richard Jen » August 14th, 2020, 11:44 am

To control my spend I have been thinking going light on vintage 19 and wait for 20. Hope the heatwave doesn't put the plan in jeopardy.
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#18 Post by Anton D » August 14th, 2020, 11:57 am

Merrill Lindquist wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 9:15 am
Already, after 99 degrees yesterday, the fruit is moving along quickly. Day after day of it? Probably some sunburn. Gave my vines a huge drink overnight. Fruit is mighty tasty this morning.
I love that kind of report. I can picture it! [cheers.gif]
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#19 Post by lleichtman » August 14th, 2020, 1:27 pm

Just listened to a Society of Wine Educators lecture by Roger Bohmrich on climate change and wine. Not good. Napa looks like toast within 10 years. Vineyards could easily move into British Columbia. Most of Mediterranean wines will be gone moving as far north as Norway.
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#20 Post by Jim Anderson » August 14th, 2020, 1:55 pm

100 here over the weekend but dropping down to low 90s Monday and then low 80s next week. We still have cool nights even when it gets this hot and the heat takes a long time to build during the day. It’s not 100 at noon for instance.
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#21 Post by Merrill Lindquist » August 14th, 2020, 2:15 pm

It was 105 by 1:00 today. The oddest thing is that it is partly overcast - no direct sun beating down. It was hot overnight and not cold this morning - this is a real heat wave. I keep a heavy canopy in my vineyard and never pull leaves - just the way I manage this particular vineyard. Let's see what day after day of extreme heat does.
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#22 Post by CJ Beazley » August 14th, 2020, 2:26 pm

Josh Grossman wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 6:40 am
It’s not just Napa. Goes all over the SW to Texas. Fires and people dying of wet bulb heat index are the new normal. New record in Death Valley; a place of records.
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#23 Post by Marc Hauser » August 14th, 2020, 3:07 pm

lleichtman wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 1:27 pm
Just listened to a Society of Wine Educators lecture by Roger Bohmrich on climate change and wine. Not good. Napa looks like toast within 10 years. Vineyards could easily move into British Columbia. Most of Mediterranean wines will be gone moving as far north as Norway.
Is there a link or a reference for that? A lot of wine folks in Napa have been thinking about this future, but this is the first I’ve heard a claim that Napa is “toast” in “10 years”.
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#24 Post by Alan Rath » August 14th, 2020, 3:25 pm

Marc Hauser wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 3:07 pm
lleichtman wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 1:27 pm
Just listened to a Society of Wine Educators lecture by Roger Bohmrich on climate change and wine. Not good. Napa looks like toast within 10 years. Vineyards could easily move into British Columbia. Most of Mediterranean wines will be gone moving as far north as Norway.
Is there a link or a reference for that? A lot of wine folks in Napa have been thinking about this future, but this is the first I’ve heard a claim that Napa is “toast” in “10 years”.
I haven't heard anything recently, but several years ago the prediction was that northern coastal California would stay about the same, maybe even cool slightly on average for high temps (low temps probably increase). Winter and spring probably warmer, which will influence bud break, flowering, harvest, etc.

Here's a plot I did of monthly average temps for August. It's from Napa airport, which is moderated by being closer to the Bay, so maybe it's different up valley:

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#25 Post by Anton D » August 14th, 2020, 3:46 pm

For people who might be concerned about this, don't worry, they have giant fans there to keep the grapes comfortable.

Old style...
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The newer style...
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And these really big ones at the south end of the valley for blowing cooler air northward to Napa...

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I hope this brings people some comfort so they don't worry too much about this vintage.
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#26 Post by Josh Grossman » August 14th, 2020, 3:53 pm

CJ Beazley wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 2:26 pm
Josh Grossman wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 6:40 am
It’s not just Napa. Goes all over the SW to Texas. Fires and people dying of wet bulb heat index are the new normal. New record in Death Valley; a place of records.
New highest ever recorded temp in Baghdad, plus new record of 5 days in a row of over 120*
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/ ... at-record/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... orded.html

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#27 Post by Anton D » August 14th, 2020, 3:59 pm

Josh Grossman wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 3:53 pm
CJ Beazley wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 2:26 pm
Josh Grossman wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 6:40 am
It’s not just Napa. Goes all over the SW to Texas. Fires and people dying of wet bulb heat index are the new normal. New record in Death Valley; a place of records.
New highest ever recorded temp in Baghdad, plus new record of 5 days in a row of over 120*
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/ ... at-record/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... orded.html
Did science ever settle on the hypothesis of heat and civil unrest/violence/war being correlated?
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#28 Post by Merrill Lindquist » August 14th, 2020, 4:08 pm

So the sun came out fully and the temperature is now 106 degrees.
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#29 Post by Anton D » August 14th, 2020, 4:43 pm

Merrill Lindquist wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 4:08 pm
So the sun came out fully and the temperature is now 106 degrees.
Man, maybe I should plant a vineyard in Chico!

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#30 Post by Victor Hong » August 14th, 2020, 4:45 pm

Merrill Lindquist wrote:
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So the sun came out fully and the temperature is now 106 degrees.
Nothing worse than hot wine.
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#31 Post by Merrill Lindquist » August 14th, 2020, 4:46 pm

Yikes!
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#32 Post by williamwhelan » August 14th, 2020, 5:51 pm

The Central Coast got hit by some heavy rain yesterday (I got it good between King City and Paso) then it hit 108 here in Paso today. Supposed to be hotter through the weekend. Tablas Creek closed their tasting room through the weekend due to heat concerns.
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#33 Post by lleichtman » August 14th, 2020, 7:25 pm

Marc Hauser wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 3:07 pm
lleichtman wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 1:27 pm
Just listened to a Society of Wine Educators lecture by Roger Bohmrich on climate change and wine. Not good. Napa looks like toast within 10 years. Vineyards could easily move into British Columbia. Most of Mediterranean wines will be gone moving as far north as Norway.
Is there a link or a reference for that? A lot of wine folks in Napa have been thinking about this future, but this is the first I’ve heard a claim that Napa is “toast” in “10 years”.
This was a part of Roger Bohmrich's presentation on climate change. Also showed that Italy won't be viable a whole lot longer either.He is a master of wine and an expert on wine and climate change. His presentation did not look good. And the heat in Napa right now is a good example.
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#34 Post by lleichtman » August 14th, 2020, 7:29 pm

There seems to be a lot of head in the sand thinking by wine growers in more southern regions of California. Climate is changing rapidly not slowly and many of these vineyards are in places that just won't survive global warming no matter what we do of do not believe. Needs to be some reality here.
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#35 Post by Paul Luckin » August 14th, 2020, 7:52 pm

“ PG&E on Friday (Aug. 14) was directed by the California Independent System Operator (CAISO) to turn off power to about 200,000 to 250,000 customers at a time in rotating power outages given the strain on the power grid during the statewide heatwave. Other power utilities in the state are being directed to take similar actions.

The power will be turned off in rotating blocks until about 11 p.m. Power could be out for about one hour for each block.

Californians are being urged to continue to conserve power until 11 p.m. tonight to reduce power usage as supplies run tight during the peak period today.

Rotating outages are not Public Safety Power Shutoffs, which are conducted during specific high fire threat conditions.

Due to the emergency, PG&E will be unable to notify customers in advance of the power shutoffs, which could occur anywhere within PG&E’s service area.

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#36 Post by Casey Hartlip » August 14th, 2020, 8:11 pm

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Yikes!
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#37 Post by Alan Rath » August 14th, 2020, 8:23 pm

Casey Hartlip wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 8:11 pm
Merrill Lindquist wrote:
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Yikes!
Calistoga is not Cabernet country, it's more like the southern Rhone. Grenache and Petite Sirah would do so well there.
Is there some reason for this post? Your crude, rude, insulting behavior is uncalled for. Sadly, it’s not the first time, and I doubt it will be the last. I would think that someone who needs to cultivate business in the industry would try harder to hide his misogyny.

And, btw, I suspect Chateau Montelena, and a few dozen other Calistoga producers would not agree with you.
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#38 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » August 14th, 2020, 8:24 pm

Casey Hartlip wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 8:11 pm
Merrill Lindquist wrote:
August 14th, 2020, 4:46 pm
Yikes!
Calistoga is not Cabernet country, it's more like the southern Rhone. Grenache and Petite Sirah would do so well there.
But, Merrill is such an accomplished winemaker.

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#39 Post by Joel Pulver » August 14th, 2020, 8:45 pm

LOL .. you folks in Napa ... can't scare me

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#40 Post by Brian Tuite » August 14th, 2020, 9:04 pm

104° here at the homestead today then PG&E shuts off the power. Unannounced. Rolling blackout. Glad I invested in a. Generator back in ‘17 when the fires and evacuations started. Power went off while we were cooking dinner and I had it back up and running 5 minutes after we finished eating.
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#41 Post by Paul Luckin » August 14th, 2020, 9:21 pm

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#42 Post by Siun o'Connell » August 14th, 2020, 9:45 pm

Have to say ... I am really uncomfortable with the Tex and Casey attacks on Merrill. Merrill has always been lovely to me, I’ve enjoyed the bottles I have bought from her and I appreciate her notes on weather. I have no idea what “Ray Ray” style activities you are hinting at but this hinting and trashing without at least making a specific claim that can be analyzed and countered is just sleazy. And having seen Casey do this before, it always reads particularly sexist for sure.

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#43 Post by JonathanG » August 14th, 2020, 9:52 pm

104 in Glen Ellen. Am at an AirBNB, and it is hot A.F. Air conditioner here not up to par, house still in mid 80s. With these temps, and no inside tasting rooms open, looks like we're going to be sipping rose by the pool the next 5 days.

What's with bashing Merrill? i'm sipping a 2011 Black Cat special edition at this very moment and its some good stuff. Hard to believe it's even from an "off" vintage. And in a thread about the weather, of all things? WTF people?
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#44 Post by Glen Gold » August 14th, 2020, 10:23 pm

Yeah, add me to the list - I am a big fan of Merrill's -- she's been lovely to me, too -- and really don't understand what's going on.
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#45 Post by KyleC » August 14th, 2020, 11:53 pm

From what I'm seeing, lots of folks are pushing up harvest due to the heat wave. 90s and 100s in the immediate Bay Area, so can only imagine what it's like up in Napa and Sonoma.

And I'm so bored of people like Rath and Landreth on this forum causing drama. Don't you Boomers/retirees have anything better to do with your time than post on WB?
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#46 Post by Anton D » August 15th, 2020, 12:49 am

This weather talk is fascinating!

Question: just how much heat does it take to become hot hot heat and affect a vintage?

Is 2020 a strategically different event?

(No innuendo, etc, intended. There are multiple strings within the thread. I am only talking temp/harvest,)
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#47 Post by Casey Hartlip » August 15th, 2020, 6:27 am

Siun o'Connell wrote:
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Have to say ... I am really uncomfortable with the Tex and Casey attacks on Merrill. Merrill has always been lovely to me, I’ve enjoyed the bottles I have bought from her and I appreciate her notes on weather. I have no idea what “Ray Ray” style activities you are hinting at but this hinting and trashing without at least making a specific claim that can be analyzed and countered is just sleazy. And having seen Casey do this before, it always reads particularly sexist for sure.
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#48 Post by Merrill Lindquist » August 15th, 2020, 6:38 am

Just in from a quick survey of my vineyard on my small ranch. Happy to report that there are no signs of sunburn on my fruit. No end to 100 degree afternoons in sight, but Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday as of this moment look to be the worst.

I have stopped culling fruit I don't want in the bottle - those pink berries just might catch up in this heat, and I may well be dropping sunburned clusters to the ground.

I'm going to continue reporting on my experiences in my vineyard and neighboring vineyards over on the Weather and Farming thread on Cellar Rats. There, other farmers and other interested folks post all year long. There is more to a vintage than one brutal heat wave! See you over there!

I have a very nice location where I can see what's happening at other Cabernet farmers' vineyards. Within a stones throw are the famous Eisele Vineyard, Frediani Vineyards, Fisher, Kenefick, Luvisi. And a quick ride up the street and I can see what's going on at Kelly Fleming's place. Hundred Acre is up there, but hidden on the hillside behind gates so not visible. Some awfully nice labels producing awfully nice Cabernet in my neighborhood!
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Re: Napa Heatwave......

#49 Post by Ben M a n d l e r » August 15th, 2020, 9:00 am

We have no AC at our place here in Santa Rosa and instead rely on good insulation and cool nights to bring us back down to baseline. Overnight we only got back down to 76 degrees in here. Looks like we'll really be cookin' by Wednesday.

We didn't have anything anywhere near this hot for anywhere near as long in 2018 or 2019. 2019 we had a heat spike in late September - so a lot of earlier-ripening stuff was picked out by then anyway - but it only topped 100 degrees for 2 days and the weather on either side was much cooler.
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Re: Napa Heatwave......

#50 Post by Patrice Breton » August 15th, 2020, 10:57 am

Merrill Lindquist wrote:
August 15th, 2020, 6:38 am
I have a very nice location where I can see what's happening at other Cabernet farmers' vineyards. Within a stones throw are the famous Eisele Vineyard, Frediani Vineyards, Fisher, Kenefick, Luvisi. And a quick ride up the street and I can see what's going on at Kelly Fleming's place. Hundred Acre is up there, but hidden on the hillside behind gates so not visible. Some awfully nice labels producing awfully nice Cabernet in my neighborhood!
Couldn't agree more, Merrill. Add to this illustrious list Levy & McClellan, Amoenus (Maybach & Turnbull), Larkmead (which sells fruit to many great brands including Rivers Marie), Hourglass, The Grade, Realm, etc.

Cabernet Sauvignon clearly does quite well in many parts of Calistoga. Of course, not all vineyards in Calistoga are equal, but that is also true everywhere else in the world.

We purchased an extraordinary little 25 year old Cabernet Sauvignon vineyard in the Chalk Hill Gap, right next to Turnbull's Amoenus Vineyard. It's always a late pick due to the westerly breezes through the gap. In fact, it was the last vineyard to be picked last year. Terrifc quality.

Keep making your beautiful wines & thanks for sharing your insights.

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