TN: 2017 Alain Graillot Crozes-Hermitage

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TN: 2017 Alain Graillot Crozes-Hermitage

#1 Post by Kent Comley » September 8th, 2020, 4:04 pm

This wine has a bit of a cult following in Australia and is not easy to procure, but given the current lock down in Victoria, some wines are easier to come by at the moment.

This is surprisingly quite ripe and fleshy. Initially some whiffs of coal smoke, give way to dark and brooding satsuma plums and liquorice and a subtle herby element. It is quite juicy, dense and very approachable, and I suspect will age well for a decade or two. It treads a fine line between ripeness and drinkability and whilst not a typical northern Rhone (or as I remember them), it really delivers.
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#2 Post by Alan Rath » September 8th, 2020, 5:45 pm

Nice to read your note Kent. Sounds about what i might expect from this wine in a vintage like 17. Interesting about scarcity, you can easily find this here, at very reasonable pricing. Maybe it will become the next Gonon, but I’ve never found it to quite measure up to Gonon.
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#3 Post by Markus S » September 8th, 2020, 6:25 pm

I've always found black pepper in Graillot Crozes (both the reg and Guiraude). Very masculine syrah. Perhaps the Nuits of the Rhone?
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#4 Post by Michael_H » September 10th, 2020, 8:31 pm

If you like this, I can recommend Maxime Graillot's own label of crozes-hermitage, Domaine Equis. Maxime is Alain's son, and the current winemaker at Domaine Alain Graillot. I do still prefer the Alain Graillot, but depending on where you are the Domaine Equis 'Domaine des lises' can be easier to find and a bit more wallet friendly.

I have also always found the black pepper in Graillot Crozes and I also find it quite prominently with Maxime's Domaine Equis. Worth a try if you haven't had it!
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#5 Post by Kent Comley » September 10th, 2020, 9:58 pm

Thanks Michael. Good call. I know the Maxime Graillot wines well and have had the Domaine Des lises on a number of occasions. It is quite peppery IIRC which is a trait I like in Shiraz.
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#6 Post by Ramon C » September 11th, 2020, 6:12 am

I can recall having had 3 or 4 different vintages of Graillot's Crozes, but don't remember if I had the La Guiraude before.

Is La Guiraude a single vineyard?
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#7 Post by Markus S » September 11th, 2020, 6:29 am

Ramon C wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 6:12 am
Is La Guiraude a single vineyard?
I don't think so. It is similar to Clos de la Roilette's "Tardive" bottling, a pick of barrels, not of vineyard.
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#8 Post by Andrew Kotowski » September 11th, 2020, 10:12 pm

Markus S wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 6:29 am
Ramon C wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 6:12 am
Is La Guiraude a single vineyard?
I don't think so. It is similar to Clos de la Roilette's "Tardive" bottling, a pick of barrels, not of vineyard.
This. Graillot Crozes was our house wine for a couple of years, as my local store (Repaire de Bacchus in Passy) had cases of it. Great juice at a great price. I can still find it in Seattle, but the pricing is almost 2x :(
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#9 Post by Marcus Goodfellow » September 11th, 2020, 11:46 pm

Andrew Kotowski wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 10:12 pm
Markus S wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 6:29 am
Ramon C wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 6:12 am
Is La Guiraude a single vineyard?
I don't think so. It is similar to Clos de la Roilette's "Tardive" bottling, a pick of barrels, not of vineyard.
This. Graillot Crozes was our house wine for a couple of years, as my local store (Repaire de Bacchus in Passy) had cases of it. Great juice at a great price. I can still find it in Seattle, but the pricing is almost 2x :(
Call Bryan at The Cellar Door in PDX. I started buying from him with 1998 vintage. He’s a great contact for wines well beyond Graillot, but will also ship to you at an excellent price.

I love the late 90s and early 00s for Graillot, but current wines are also really well done and lovely. The Crozes is dynamite, and the La Guiraude is a benchmark(IMO).
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#10 Post by JWalter » September 12th, 2020, 6:50 am

Kent Comley wrote:
September 8th, 2020, 4:04 pm

This is surprisingly quite ripe and fleshy. Initially some whiffs of coal smoke, give way to dark and brooding satsuma plums and liquorice and a subtle herby element. It is quite juicy, dense and very approachable, and I suspect will age well for a decade or two. It treads a fine line between ripeness and drinkability and whilst not a typical northern Rhone (or as I remember them), it really delivers.
I found the 2017 to be a little but bigger than I was used to for Graillot. More power/sun/fruit and less of the pepper and pretty floral nose I’m used to.

Anyone feel the same way about 2017?

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#11 Post by Marshall Manning » September 12th, 2020, 10:46 am

Marcus Goodfellow wrote:
September 11th, 2020, 11:46 pm

Call Bryan at The Cellar Door in PDX. I started buying from him with 1998 vintage. He’s a great contact for wines well beyond Graillot, but will also ship to you at an excellent price.
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#12 Post by jnbrown » September 13th, 2020, 7:09 pm

Kent Comley wrote:
September 10th, 2020, 9:58 pm
Thanks Michael. Good call. I know the Maxime Graillot wines well and have had the Domaine Des lises on a number of occasions. It is quite peppery IIRC which is a trait I like in Shiraz.
I have had that also, nice Hermitage.
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#13 Post by Andrew Kotowski » September 13th, 2020, 7:18 pm

I’d also like to try Alain’s Hermitage. IIRC, he makes a couple of barrels a year. Should have BIN’d it when I saw it online.
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#14 Post by PCLIN » September 14th, 2020, 11:55 am

Andrew Kotowski wrote:
September 13th, 2020, 7:18 pm
I’d also like to try Alain’s Hermitage. IIRC, he makes a couple of barrels a year. Should have BIN’d it when I saw it online.

Interesting, I have yet to come across one. Discovered Graillot late, only started buying from ‘15 vintage onward!
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#15 Post by A. So » September 14th, 2020, 12:05 pm

JWalter wrote:
September 12th, 2020, 6:50 am
Kent Comley wrote:
September 8th, 2020, 4:04 pm

This is surprisingly quite ripe and fleshy. Initially some whiffs of coal smoke, give way to dark and brooding satsuma plums and liquorice and a subtle herby element. It is quite juicy, dense and very approachable, and I suspect will age well for a decade or two. It treads a fine line between ripeness and drinkability and whilst not a typical northern Rhone (or as I remember them), it really delivers.
I found the 2017 to be a little but bigger than I was used to for Graillot. More power/sun/fruit and less of the pepper and pretty floral nose I’m used to.

Anyone feel the same way about 2017?
I thought 2017 was a slightly less potent version of 2015.
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#16 Post by CraigT » September 23rd, 2020, 9:39 pm

[cheers.gif] I like Graillot very much but have found a much better Crozes. Have you tried Campagnie de l’Hermitage VV de Gervans. I just had the 2015 and it was the best Crozes I’ve ever had. Much more complex. Like a cross between an Hermitage and old school Côte Rôtie.

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