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#1 Post by c fu » October 22nd, 2020, 12:11 pm

Nick Gislason - the current winemaker at Screaming Eagle has started a lager company

https://hanabilager.com/

Currently have to register for the privilege of buying - ala a mailing list, but a friend of mine was sent a 6 pack by the brewery - they are priced at $100 for a pack of 6 lagers but also sold individually for $16 each. They are 500ml bottles.

Lagers - stainless steel lagers. $16 each per 500ml.

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#2 Post by Chris Seiber » October 22nd, 2020, 12:16 pm

I can get a 258ml bottle of the beer in China for way less.

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#3 Post by Mark Y » October 22nd, 2020, 12:50 pm

Obligatory helipad at the brewery joke ?
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#4 Post by Doug Schulman » October 22nd, 2020, 12:55 pm

I'm told the equipment to produce lager on a commercial scale is crazy expensive, but yeah, that price for the beer is still silly.

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#5 Post by ChrisR » October 22nd, 2020, 1:09 pm

I can’t speak to these particular beers, but it isn’t uncommon for breweries to release particular beers in this price point. Typically they are special releases though versus normal offerings.
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#6 Post by c fu » October 22nd, 2020, 1:32 pm

ChrisR wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 1:09 pm
I can’t speak to these particular beers, but it isn’t uncommon for breweries to release particular beers in this price point. Typically they are special releases though versus normal offerings.
It's a lager tho brewed in stainless steel tanks. Usually pricier beers are due to the extended need for age - barrels etc.
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#7 Post by Mark Y » October 22nd, 2020, 2:15 pm

ChrisR wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 1:09 pm
I can’t speak to these particular beers, but it isn’t uncommon for breweries to release particular beers in this price point. Typically they are special releases though versus normal offerings.
Can you let us know some other lagers that release for $16 per can?
i see them for $20-25 for 4 pack pretty reguarly.

$25-30 a 750ml bottle for barrel aged stuff, but lager?
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#8 Post by P@u1_M3nk3s » October 22nd, 2020, 2:37 pm

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#9 Post by c fu » October 22nd, 2020, 2:59 pm

Mark Y wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 2:15 pm
ChrisR wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 1:09 pm
I can’t speak to these particular beers, but it isn’t uncommon for breweries to release particular beers in this price point. Typically they are special releases though versus normal offerings.
Can you let us know some other lagers that release for $16 per can?
i see them for $20-25 for 4 pack pretty reguarly.

$25-30 a 750ml bottle for barrel aged stuff, but lager?
yeah - the equivalence of this is a $24 750ml Lager. Good luck to him. I think there will definitely be buyers with napa cab ties. I am kinda curious in trying it though.. I do love a great Lager.

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#10 Post by Steve Crawford » October 22nd, 2020, 3:07 pm

can you land your helicopter on-site for the release? asking for a friend.
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#11 Post by Anton D » October 22nd, 2020, 3:07 pm

Cheaper than Westies!

I am going to try and see. I hope! I signed up.

I like they ferment their beer in tanks suspended high in the air.
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#12 Post by Anton D » October 22nd, 2020, 3:08 pm

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can you land your helicopter on-site for the release? asking for a friend.
For that price, you have to come by Aerolight.
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#13 Post by Sean_S » October 22nd, 2020, 3:41 pm

c fu wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 12:11 pm
Nick Gislason - the current winemaker at Screaming Eagle has started a lager company

https://hanabilager.com/

Currently have to register for the privilege of buying - ala a mailing list, but a friend of mine was sent a 6 pack by the brewery - they are priced at $100 for a pack of 6 lagers but also sold individually for $16 each. They are 500ml bottles.

Lagers - stainless steel lagers. $16 each per 500ml.

WOO.

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Just heard about this last night through some friends. They have had it and claim its quite tasty. We share common palates in wine so I will give it a try.

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#14 Post by Robert M yers » October 22nd, 2020, 4:09 pm

c fu wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 2:59 pm
Mark Y wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 2:15 pm
ChrisR wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 1:09 pm
I can’t speak to these particular beers, but it isn’t uncommon for breweries to release particular beers in this price point. Typically they are special releases though versus normal offerings.
Can you let us know some other lagers that release for $16 per can?
i see them for $20-25 for 4 pack pretty reguarly.

$25-30 a 750ml bottle for barrel aged stuff, but lager?
yeah - the equivalence of this is a $24 750ml Lager. Good luck to him. I think there will definitely be buyers with napa cab ties. I am kinda curious in trying it though.. I do love a great Lager.

Did i just talk myself into this
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#15 Post by JBrochu » October 22nd, 2020, 5:49 pm

I don't see how these very high priced beers can gain anything but a tiny following because there will always be great breweries producing equal or better quality willing to undercut the prices. There is no limiting factor like there is with wine. Even homebrewers can pretty much brew top line beers these days because they can obtain the highest quality starting materials with relative ease. It took me less than 6 months of homebrewing experience to produce beers better than 95% of what the brewpubs in my state were making, just as an example.
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#16 Post by Rick Allen » October 22nd, 2020, 5:51 pm

Looks a lot like what I did 14 years ago. I had a ton of winemakers drinking my beer before I went pro, but the beers we make today are much better than those that I made back then. I was a pioneer over a decade ago, but lagers are now well represented in Craft Brewing. This appears to be more marketing than substance. I'd love to try their beers, but I'm not going to pay $16 for a bottle.

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#17 Post by Mel Knox » October 22nd, 2020, 6:51 pm

I have drunk these beers at the winery and at professional events for winemakers and they are pretty damn good.
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#18 Post by Rob_S » October 22nd, 2020, 6:59 pm

Doug Schulman wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 12:55 pm
I'm told the equipment to produce lager on a commercial scale is crazy expensive, but yeah, that price for the beer is still silly.
Outside of brite tanks needed for the lagering and the wait while it's in tank, making lager isn't especially expensive.

This is stupid priced.
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#19 Post by R Roberts » October 22nd, 2020, 7:29 pm

One could argue brewing lager is *cheaper* than many of today's popular beers. Lower ABV than the 7%+ beers found everywhere means less grain needed, and minimal hops especially compared to hazy IPAs.

Also unlike wine that has a limited amount of raw resource (the vineyard), any capable brewer should be able to produce the same exact beer.
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#20 Post by Larry Stein » October 22nd, 2020, 8:13 pm

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#21 Post by Rick Allen » October 22nd, 2020, 8:16 pm

R Roberts wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 7:29 pm
One could argue brewing lager is *cheaper* than many of today's popular beers. Lower ABV than the 7%+ beers found everywhere means less grain needed, and minimal hops especially compared to hazy IPAs.

Also unlike wine that has a limited amount of raw resource (the vineyard), any capable brewer should be able to produce the same exact beer.
Shows how little you know about brewing. Malt quality makes a huge difference, particularly in lagers. Hop cost is insubstantial compared to the cost of extensive lagering. Time is one of the biggest costs associated with brewing. That said, a good beer that costs three times what another equally good beer costs is no bargain, unless you get some satisfaction from buying the marketing hype.
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#22 Post by R Roberts » October 22nd, 2020, 8:34 pm

Rick Allen wrote:
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Shows how little you know about brewing.
Ironically now its you making unsubstantiated assumptions. I've been a homebrewer for over 20 years, just not familiar with the financials at commercial scale.
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#23 Post by Wes Barton » October 22nd, 2020, 8:53 pm

Mel Knox wrote:
October 22nd, 2020, 6:51 pm
I have drunk these beers at the winery and at professional events for winemakers and they are pretty damn good.
Was there anything novel or next level about them?

$16 for a 500ml bottle. 16.9 ounces. Call that a big glass of a lower ABV beer. Restaurants get typically 5 or 6 pours from a bottle of wine. So, it's roughly the equivalent in price of an $80 or maybe $96 bottle of wine. I've had beers in that price range that were worth it. It's a good question if a lager can be. I'm open to the possibility.

On the economics - we saw Russian River Brewing play the scarcity game, with long lines of cultists who drove long distances for the rare opportunity to buy a beer that sells out in under an hour. I know people who've taken a day off work and driven 80 miles to do that. That's a lot of costs on the customer side the brewery isn't getting (though they marketed themselves well with that gimmick). People will pay a lot for an exclusive beer. It better be damn good to keep them coming back, though.
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#24 Post by Robert M yers » October 22nd, 2020, 8:53 pm

I’m so over chasing beer these days, what’s the last beer to really alter the universe? There are so many local/regional people doing good things there is just no reason Imo to chase the white white anymore. Yeah it might be Slightly unique in some sense, but The costs just don’t add up to the payoff for stuff like this.

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#25 Post by Paul Fountain » October 22nd, 2020, 9:25 pm

It feels like the shark has well and truly been jumped here.

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#26 Post by Mel Knox » October 22nd, 2020, 10:59 pm

Wes,

I remember a tasting a lager at the winery with wonderful aromatics.
At Fruition Sciences meeting he has poured various beers which were also very good. a stout. Nile Zacherle has also poured a stout that was wonderful.

Would I pay $16 for a 500 ml bottle?? I don't drink that much beer so I am the wrong person to ask about that. One of my neighbor's daughters and her hubby spend $25 for 750 ml of beer.
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#27 Post by Victor Hong » October 23rd, 2020, 4:36 am

Does that enable a more luxurious, Instagramable pee?
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#28 Post by Adam Frisch » October 23rd, 2020, 11:51 am

When unemployment is at depression-era levels and a biblical downturn is imminent seems like the perfect time to launch a $100/6-pack beer company... [welldone.gif]
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#29 Post by Victor Hong » October 23rd, 2020, 12:27 pm

Adam Frisch wrote:
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When unemployment is at depression-era levels and a biblical downturn is imminent seems like the perfect time to launch a $100/6-pack beer company... [welldone.gif]
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#30 Post by R M Kriete » October 23rd, 2020, 12:47 pm

Chris Seiber wrote:
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I can get a 258ml bottle of the beer in China for way less.
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#31 Post by Mark Y » October 23rd, 2020, 12:54 pm

Btw it’s $90 for 6. I was wondering how $16 per, and $100/6pack made sense
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#32 Post by Craig G » October 23rd, 2020, 1:05 pm

They should call it Bryan Lager.
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#33 Post by Anton D » October 23rd, 2020, 1:07 pm

Craig G wrote:
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They should call it Bryan Lager.
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