Rusty is using this cartoon in his latest pinot report. Some wineries (e.g. Talley) have caught on to the environmental impact of big bottles on things like shipping and fuel usage. TJās wonāt have to worry with their (mostly) flimsy glass, closures, and packing cartons.
Whether we like it or not, big glass has shelf appeal.
I would hope that wineries who are able to sell all, or most of, their production through non-retail channels would use lighter glass, as they (apparently) are not relying on folks buying their wines off retail shelves.
I will be bottling up my first pinots later this year most likely and I will be bottling them in a ābordeauxā-shaped glass bottle. Why some why ask? Why not, I say - all of my other bottlings are in the exact same bottle, including a dry Gewurztraminer - why should this one be any different?
Extra large bottles are a PITA (or back) to lug up and down stairs, cost more to ship, wonāt fit in many of my racks, and give the illusion of more wine, leading to disappointment when the heavy bottle turns out to be empty.
I went heavy with my āspecial editionā wine last release because I thought the price point and the limited availability warranted it. But Iāve changed my mind - the upcoming release Iāve gone for a lighter burgundy bottle for that. Iām over the heavy bottles. But for my bordeaux bottled wines Iāll prob keep the one Iāve got, despite being on the heavier side, simply because they have a shape I like and itās not made in a lighter version.
greatest bottle ever is the 500ml ones radikon uses. looks great (love the elegant neck) and an appropriate amount of wine for almost any situation. does any other producer also use them?
I tend to prefer Burgundy style bottles simply because they tend to arrange a bit better in the cellar. Some BDX style bottles just donāt seem to fit well in mine. Though, Iād gladly take BDX bottles if all wine was just bottled in a single standard shape. Itād make organising bottles so much easier.
Not sure if thereās any literature on it, but given that we know temperature affects the ageing of a wine, itād be interesting to see if bottle thickness affects the ageing of a wine. With thicker heavier bottles having a larger thermal mass, in theory they could provide a wine with a more stable temperature away from some of the variations in temp in the cellar. Though itād be a double edged sword when it comes to shipping, both in terms of the obvious increase in cost as well as the risk of its thermal mass retaining more of the heat longer if shipping during warmer months.
Interesting that this thread is focusing on the weight of standard 750 bottles where I wouldnāt go for heavier, and hasnāt, apart from a comment on500ml gone into size, eg the potential for 1 litre etc. I understand that for wineries the different sizes are a pain, but I would welcome more variety as I love 375s but rarely get the opportunity to open a magnum.
Early on, I had notions of bottling Riesling in just normal flint bordeaux bottles to get away from the āstigma of Blue Nunā. But Iāve come back - Riesling belongs in a Hock-shaped bottle. Itās classic, itās traditional, itās right. Likewise, it feels wrong to me to put Syrah in a Bordeaux bottle - it belongs in a Bourgogne/Rhone-shaped bottle.
So as much as it would simplify to have just one bottle for all wines, I donāt think itās doable without losing something.