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#2851 Post by ClarkstonMark » November 8th, 2017, 10:58 am

Robert M yers wrote:Ohioans don't forget the Pappy lottery started, it took a trip to the seedy part of town to find a ticket. hopefully it will pay off, but even if not I'm just very happy they are more fairly getting the bottles into consumer hands.
PA too. It's online. I entered PA a few weeks ago.
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#2852 Post by Nick Gangas » November 8th, 2017, 7:57 pm

Antique Collection is out in Illinois. I got Thomas Hardy William Larue Weller and George T Stagg for the restaurant.

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#2853 Post by Michael Sopher » November 9th, 2017, 11:46 am

Just scooped up some Weller Antique 107 (Barrel Select). I know what's up after dinner tonight.

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#2854 Post by Jorge Henriquez » November 10th, 2017, 4:29 am

Michael Sopher wrote:Just scooped up some Weller Antique 107 (Barrel Select). I know what's up after dinner tonight.
Where’d you find it Michael? Up at Total in Norwalk again? What was the $$?
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#2855 Post by ClarkstonMark » November 10th, 2017, 5:39 am

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Robert M yers wrote:Ohioans don't forget the Pappy lottery started, it took a trip to the seedy part of town to find a ticket. hopefully it will pay off, but even if not I'm just very happy they are more fairly getting the bottles into consumer hands.
PA too. It's online. I entered PA a few weeks ago.
So I did not win in the PA lottery, though they did tell me they got 29,000 entries. Not sure how many winners there were.
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#2856 Post by Mike Maguire » November 10th, 2017, 11:59 am

Jorge Henriquez wrote:
Michael Sopher wrote:Just scooped up some Weller Antique 107 (Barrel Select). I know what's up after dinner tonight.
Where’d you find it Michael? Up at Total in Norwalk again? What was the $$?
Hey Jorge,
I was just at my local Costco, Gig Harbor Wa., and they had Weller Antique for $26.99. Different bottle shape but that’s a solid price

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#2857 Post by Jorge Henriquez » November 11th, 2017, 3:25 am

Mike Maguire wrote:
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Michael Sopher wrote:Just scooped up some Weller Antique 107 (Barrel Select). I know what's up after dinner tonight.
Where’d you find it Michael? Up at Total in Norwalk again? What was the $$?
Hey Jorge,
I was just at my local Costco, Gig Harbor Wa., and they had Weller Antique for $26.99. Different bottle shape but that’s a solid price
Mike, lucky man. Prices around here have gotten stupid for what used to be a bargain of a Bourbon.
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P.S. I am not a fan of the new bottle shape and label.
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#2858 Post by Mike Maguire » November 11th, 2017, 6:17 am

Jorge,
The 12, reserve and antique all changed to the new bottle.It looks like a bottle of cheap brandy to me.

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#2859 Post by JeromeHan » November 11th, 2017, 6:42 am

Yeah. It is ridiculous around me too at some stores. Saw a Weller 12 and was told $165. I politely smiled and said that's a healthy mark up and the owner got extremely defensive saying how it's basically rebranded Pappy and that he is surprised I didn't know that. He knows for a fact that that is the lowest price I will see in the country. I thanked him for letting me know and walked out. Sigh.

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#2860 Post by Jorge Henriquez » November 11th, 2017, 8:03 am

Mike Maguire wrote:Jorge,
The 12, reserve and antique all changed to the new bottle.It looks like a bottle of cheap brandy to me.
Yep. Knew it and agree.
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#2861 Post by AlexS » November 11th, 2017, 8:13 am

$89.99?? Wtf. I feel like I paid $20 for a bottle of it last year. It's good but it sure as hell ain't $90 good.
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#2862 Post by Patrick Keigan » November 11th, 2017, 12:54 pm

Been lucky at my store recently, we got a full case of Weller 12. Hooked up some of our favorite customers, then split it up between me and my boss. Walked with 2 bottles at $30. We keep reminiscing about the old days, when we were buying Van Winkle 12 at cost off the shelf. Black Maple Hill just sitting around.

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#2863 Post by Albert_H » November 11th, 2017, 7:07 pm

If anyone in the LA area cares, the total wine in long beach has the 2017 angel's envy cask strength priced at 169.99
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#2864 Post by Michael Sopher » November 13th, 2017, 10:13 am

Jorge Henriquez wrote:
Michael Sopher wrote:Just scooped up some Weller Antique 107 (Barrel Select). I know what's up after dinner tonight.
Where’d you find it Michael? Up at Total in Norwalk again? What was the $$?
Yup Total Wine... under $30... and they're out
It was a Barrel Select.. different shape bottle.

They limited it to 1 per person. Next thing they release I'll send in some straw buyers from my office

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#2865 Post by Joe Hauck » November 21st, 2017, 3:27 pm

Old Forester 1920 is pretty great for around $50 in this let's rape bourbon drinkers world we now live in.
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#2866 Post by Kris Patten » December 3rd, 2017, 8:30 am

New product called Noble Oak from The Edrington Group using the same sherry oak that Macallan whiskies get. Being released slowly, neighborhood by neighborhood.
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#2867 Post by Michael Sopher » December 11th, 2017, 9:05 am

Got some Buffalo Trace this AM ($25)
Next up - Blantons

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#2868 Post by RDHudak » December 13th, 2017, 12:12 pm

I have a bottle of EH Taylor Four Grain I'd be willing to trade (World Whiskey of the Year). Shoot me an offer.

Also, does anyone know where I can get a reasonably priced bottle of George T. Stagg?

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#2869 Post by Alan Rath » December 14th, 2017, 4:49 pm

if you want a laugh, go back and read through the first few pages of this thread. People complaining about paying $70 for Pappy 20 [wow.gif]
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#2870 Post by Mike Maguire » December 14th, 2017, 6:26 pm

Any thoughts on Little Book “the easy”? Bookers blended bourbon

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#2871 Post by RDHudak » December 14th, 2017, 8:56 pm

The Little Book just got listed as a Top 20 bourbon from the Whiskey Advocate, but I haven't tried it.

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#2872 Post by Albert_H » December 14th, 2017, 10:20 pm

It's actually a blended whiskey and i've heard some decent things about it. I recently saw it at my local costco for 68.00 and think i'll be picking up a bottle next time i'm there. Supposedly the production is half that of Bookers, which I guess doesn't say much considering it's a Beam product.
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#2873 Post by bradkaplan » December 15th, 2017, 5:25 am

^ Not impressed w Little Book. Found it disjointed and anything but easy.
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#2874 Post by Michael Sopher » December 20th, 2017, 12:49 pm

got my 2 Blantons on Monday... $55 at Total Wine

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#2875 Post by alan weinberg » December 20th, 2017, 8:31 pm

$55 Blanton’s? Lucky you.

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#2876 Post by Craig G » December 20th, 2017, 11:41 pm

K&L seems to be listing Blanton's every week or so for $50, but you have to be quick on the draw.
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#2877 Post by RDHudak » December 21st, 2017, 1:49 am

Blanton's is regularly on the shelves around Va for about $57.
Picked up some Kentucky Owl Rye today for $130.

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#2878 Post by JeromeHan » December 21st, 2017, 10:07 am

RDHudak wrote:Blanton's is regularly on the shelves around Va for about $57.
Picked up some Kentucky Owl Rye today for $130.
That Owl Rye is a great sipper.

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#2879 Post by Michael Sopher » December 21st, 2017, 12:18 pm

alan weinberg wrote:$55 Blanton’s? Lucky you.
More likely price in NY area is $80 - $100. So I grabbed it when I could...

pricing has gotten ridiculous. Fortunately I like Basil Haydens and several others that are always on the shelf for less than $50

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#2880 Post by Kris Patten » December 21st, 2017, 1:40 pm

Wholesale on all these hasn't changed. Crazy to see some of prices being asked.
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#2881 Post by RDHudak » December 22nd, 2017, 6:17 am

I had the High West Mid Winters Night Dram last night. It was simply fantastic! Not over Port like, which I think Angels Envy is, but smooth and delicious. The rye really comes out and adds complexity.

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#2882 Post by Albert_H » December 22nd, 2017, 9:06 pm

Westcoast Total Wine grand reserve folks, stores received their Pappy today so you can go in and pick up with your order with your ID. Email will prob come next week but you can go get it now
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#2883 Post by ERPark » December 22nd, 2017, 10:07 pm

Albert_H wrote:Westcoast Total Wine grand reserve folks, stores received their Pappy today so you can go in and pick up with your order with your ID. Email will prob come next week but you can go get it now
Thanks! Too bad I was right nearby my "home" TW store his morning. I'll just assume they didn't get their Pappy until I'd already left the area.......
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#2884 Post by Kris Patten » December 26th, 2017, 5:07 pm

I should post the wholesale prices on all these whiskies, the prices at retail and in commerce corner are absurd compared to wholesale....especially PVW, BTAC, and Weller 12.

Back to Bourbon, anyone tried the newest Parker's Heritage?

Also be on lookout for Old Fitz next year, it will be a 13 year old in a flask, it looks awesome, juice should be excellent too.
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#2885 Post by S Haller » December 27th, 2017, 5:11 pm

Kris Patten wrote:
Also be on lookout for Old Fitz next year, it will be a 13 year old in a flask, it looks awesome, juice should be excellent too.
What’s the retail supposed to be for it? Know which month next year that it’s supposed to come out?
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#2886 Post by RDHudak » December 27th, 2017, 8:08 pm

Popped a bottle of Booker's 2017-04 "Sip a While". It's easily one of the best I've had from them. I'd say as good as the Noe Secret, which got rave reviews, especially with the insane pricing of late.
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#2887 Post by Kris Patten » December 27th, 2017, 9:10 pm

Old Fitz should be out in February 2018. I don't have it set up yet, I'll check back and update post. I'm buying one just for the decanter.
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#2888 Post by ClarkstonMark » December 28th, 2017, 2:38 pm

S Haller wrote:
Kris Patten wrote:
Also be on lookout for Old Fitz next year, it will be a 13 year old in a flask, it looks awesome, juice should be excellent too.
What’s the retail supposed to be for it? Know which month next year that it’s supposed to come out?
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#2889 Post by Matt Latuchie » December 30th, 2017, 6:56 pm

Anyone have any experience with Black Maple Hill Bourbon?
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#2890 Post by jason stein » December 30th, 2017, 8:13 pm

Matt Latuchie wrote:Anyone have any experience with Black Maple Hill Bourbon?
the old bottlings or current releases?

I can say that the old bourbon (16 year esp) is really great stuff, but not worth the insane prices that you now see on the market.

I’ve honestly steered clear of the newer bottlings, as i have only heard disappointing things about them.
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#2891 Post by Mike Maguire » December 30th, 2017, 10:05 pm

Matt Latuchie wrote:Anyone have any experience with Black Maple Hill Bourbon?
I have a few of the older bourbons and they are quite special.The newer release bourbons are very good but not worth the 80-90 buck tariff.Tried the rye and don’t bother, not good.

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#2892 Post by Matt Latuchie » December 31st, 2017, 10:31 am

Thanks for the responses. I should have been more specific, this is the bottling I was most curious about:

https://www.thehouseofglunz.com/product ... QsEALw_wcB
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#2893 Post by Mike Maguire » December 31st, 2017, 10:54 am

Matt Latuchie wrote:Thanks for the responses. I should have been more specific, this is the bottling I was most curious about:

https://www.thehouseofglunz.com/product ... QsEALw_wcB
Those are the ones I have.I think i paid in the 30’s about 8-10 years ago.The newer bottles remind me of Elmer T. Lee bottles.

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#2894 Post by jason stein » December 31st, 2017, 12:01 pm

Matt Latuchie wrote:Thanks for the responses. I should have been more specific, this is the bottling I was most curious about:

https://www.thehouseofglunz.com/product ... QsEALw_wcB

Yeah, that’s one of the old ones — like i said, quite good bourbon, though the basic NAS doesn’t hold a candle to the 16 yr. That said, this is also a lot cheaper than you see the 16 yr for. I think it’s really good stuff — whether or not it’s worth $800 is a decision only you can make for yourself.
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#2895 Post by gene keenan » January 12th, 2018, 6:12 pm

Mike Maguire wrote:
Matt Latuchie wrote:Anyone have any experience with Black Maple Hill Bourbon?
I have a few of the older bourbons and they are quite special.The newer release bourbons are very good but not worth the 80-90 buck tariff.Tried the rye and don’t bother, not good.
The new stuff is plonk in my opinion for the price they charge. And it comes from a distillery in Oregon now called Stein not Willet or Stizel-Weller.
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#2896 Post by Robert M yers » January 12th, 2018, 9:16 pm

jason stein wrote:
Matt Latuchie wrote:Thanks for the responses. I should have been more specific, this is the bottling I was most curious about:

https://www.thehouseofglunz.com/product ... QsEALw_wcB

Yeah, that’s one of the old ones — like i said, quite good bourbon, though the basic NAS doesn’t hold a candle to the 16 yr. That said, this is also a lot cheaper than you see the 16 yr for. I think it’s really good stuff — whether or not it’s worth $800 is a decision only you can make for yourself.
What is the back story on this bottling? I have a couple of bottles but never really looked into it. It’s certainly good, but I’d lean towards being a seller at $800.

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#2897 Post by alan weinberg » January 19th, 2018, 4:18 pm

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#2898 Post by gene keenan » January 20th, 2018, 10:01 am

Robert M yers wrote:
jason stein wrote:
Matt Latuchie wrote:Thanks for the responses. I should have been more specific, this is the bottling I was most curious about:

https://www.thehouseofglunz.com/product ... QsEALw_wcB

Yeah, that’s one of the old ones — like i said, quite good bourbon, though the basic NAS doesn’t hold a candle to the 16 yr. That said, this is also a lot cheaper than you see the 16 yr for. I think it’s really good stuff — whether or not it’s worth $800 is a decision only you can make for yourself.
What is the back story on this bottling? I have a couple of bottles but never really looked into it. It’s certainly good, but I’d lean towards being a seller at $800.
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I used to buy loads of this stuff at less than $30/bottle and even the 16YO for around $70. Had I realized at the time it was a one off I would have bought more and saved it. It goes for far too much money now. The 16 can fetch over $3k a bottle. I still see it occasionally at a bar and will buy a glass when I do.
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#2899 Post by Robert M yers » January 21st, 2018, 10:13 am

Thanks Gene, I think someone at KL was getting tired of answering the “do you have any BMH” question. It is very nice stuff as I actually have a bottle open, that said Matt if your still looking let me know.

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#2900 Post by Michae1 P0wers » January 24th, 2018, 1:42 pm

ClarkstonMark wrote:
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Kris Patten wrote:
Also be on lookout for Old Fitz next year, it will be a 13 year old in a flask, it looks awesome, juice should be excellent too.
What’s the retail supposed to be for it? Know which month next year that it’s supposed to come out?
Michigan minimum retail pricing:
10 year $60
12 Year $70
13 Year Rye $120
15 year $100
20 year $170
23 year $270
Stagg, Handy, ER17, WL Weller, Saz 18 all $90
This is the Pappy MI retail pricing right? Seems like the question asked was about Old Fitz. Or am I mistaken somehow?

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