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I am set to pick Moulds off Wed morning and Greer off Friday morning. Have not run a lab on either and won't until 24 hours in tank. But if I had to guess Moulds it would be 26.3 and 3.70 and Greer 26.9 and 3.60. Pretty normal for both except the long route to get there and maybe .10 low on usual pH levels. It's drizzling in Calistoga as we speak. This is the third light rain dusting in 3 weeks. Beam me up Scotty!
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Now it is raining in Calistoga. Still fruit hanging across the Trail from my place....
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#453 Post by Guillermo M »

Roy Piper wrote: September 27th, 2021, 5:52 pm I am set to pick Moulds off Wed morning and Greer off Friday morning. Have not run a lab on either and won't until 24 hours in tank. But if I had to guess Moulds it would be 26.3 and 3.70 and Greer 26.9 and 3.60. Pretty normal for both except the long route to get there and maybe .10 low on usual pH levels. It's drizzling in Calistoga as we speak. This is the third light rain dusting in 3 weeks. Beam me up Scotty!
Purely hearsay question here, but does that mean you're looking at 16+% ABV? If so, do you consider lower pH a good thing?
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Merrill Lindquist wrote: September 27th, 2021, 6:09 pm Now it is raining in Calistoga. Still fruit hanging across the Trail from my place....
hi merrill,

i'm downvalley and we've only had a misting. i have a vineyard on the west side of calistoga that's not ready yet - how heavy a rain are we talking?
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#455 Post by Merrill Lindquist »

I would call it a very, very light rain. The deck is wet...you can smell the wet earth. But definitely not pelting rain at this time. Hope your fruit comes through ok.
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Purely hearsay question here, but does that mean you're looking at 16+% ABV? If so, do you consider lower pH a good thing?
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I receive a weather report each day via Napa Valley Vintners. This is the recap of the "rain" in Napa Valley yesterday - as you can see most areas of the valley received very little rain. Today is a little breezy which should dry things out fairly quickly.
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As I frequently say, if it is raining anywhere in Napa Valley, it is raining at my place. Looks like Calistoga and Angwin are the only wet spots from last night. Good for the fruit still hanging downvalley.
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#459 Post by Casey Hartlip »

Another day closer to the end. Picked some smaller fields of not-so-easy Pinot over the past two days. Had about .15" yesterday and the vines were quite soaked this morning. Which means after about 5 minutes the pickers are soaked too. We are now only picking for one client over the next few days and might wrap next Tuesday. I can now SEE the end.
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Al Osterheld wrote: September 28th, 2021, 1:58 pm You'll miss it when it's over.

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Guillermo M wrote: September 27th, 2021, 6:16 pm
Roy Piper wrote: September 27th, 2021, 5:52 pm I am set to pick Moulds off Wed morning and Greer off Friday morning. Have not run a lab on either and won't until 24 hours in tank. But if I had to guess Moulds it would be 26.3 and 3.70 and Greer 26.9 and 3.60. Pretty normal for both except the long route to get there and maybe .10 low on usual pH levels. It's drizzling in Calistoga as we speak. This is the third light rain dusting in 3 weeks. Beam me up Scotty!
Purely hearsay question here, but does that mean you're looking at 16+% ABV? If so, do you consider lower pH a good thing?
Something has gone on in Napa starting in 2016 where the conversion ratio has gone from .59 to .55. I've seen it everywhere and with almost everyone. So on that 26.9 brix (if that's what it is) we would have finished at 15.9% and probably made a very slight water add. Now it will finish at 14.8% and no water add needed. Whether this drought vintage brings and end to that trend is hard to tell.
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#463 Post by Guillermo M »

Roy Piper wrote: September 28th, 2021, 7:22 pm
Guillermo M wrote: September 27th, 2021, 6:16 pm
Purely hearsay question here, but does that mean you're looking at 16+% ABV? If so, do you consider lower pH a good thing?
Something has gone on in Napa starting in 2016 where the conversion ratio has gone from .59 to .55. I've seen it everywhere and with almost everyone. So on that 26.9 brix (if that's what it is) we would have finished at 15.9% and probably made a very slight water add. Now it will finish at 14.8% and no water add needed. Whether this drought vintage brings and end to that trend is hard to tell.
Yes, if the grapes are smaller and it’s because of less water I would imagine the ratio might go up. But I didn’t even know it had gone down in the first place. So, that’s a way more unexpected and interesting answer than I imagined. Thanks.
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Casey Hartlip wrote: September 28th, 2021, 4:57 pm
Al Osterheld wrote: September 28th, 2021, 1:58 pm You'll miss it when it's over.

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Roy Piper wrote: September 28th, 2021, 7:22 pm
Guillermo M wrote: September 27th, 2021, 6:16 pm
Roy Piper wrote: September 27th, 2021, 5:52 pm I am set to pick Moulds off Wed morning and Greer off Friday morning. Have not run a lab on either and won't until 24 hours in tank. But if I had to guess Moulds it would be 26.3 and 3.70 and Greer 26.9 and 3.60. Pretty normal for both except the long route to get there and maybe .10 low on usual pH levels. It's drizzling in Calistoga as we speak. This is the third light rain dusting in 3 weeks. Beam me up Scotty!
Purely hearsay question here, but does that mean you're looking at 16+% ABV? If so, do you consider lower pH a good thing?
Something has gone on in Napa starting in 2016 where the conversion ratio has gone from .59 to .55. I've seen it everywhere and with almost everyone. So on that 26.9 brix (if that's what it is) we would have finished at 15.9% and probably made a very slight water add. Now it will finish at 14.8% and no water add needed. Whether this drought vintage brings and end to that trend is hard to tell.
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Is that something you've seen on a consistent basis on just your ferments or has it become more of a 'general rule' up in Napa? You inoculate, right? Could it be yeast specific? I've not heard the same here so very curious . . .

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We've found that using glu/fru is much more predictable than using brix for alc conversions.

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leslie renaud wrote: September 29th, 2021, 9:24 am We've found that using glu/fru is much more predictable than using brix for alc conversions.
Yes...very important to look at that.
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leslie renaud wrote: September 29th, 2021, 9:24 am We've found that using glu/fru is much more predictable than using brix for alc conversions.
And do you use a specific conversion factor with glu/fru then? If so, what is it and how 'consistent' is it?

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larry schaffer wrote: September 29th, 2021, 1:12 pm
leslie renaud wrote: September 29th, 2021, 9:24 am We've found that using glu/fru is much more predictable than using brix for alc conversions.
And do you use a specific conversion factor with glu/fru then? If so, what is it and how 'consistent' is it?

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John Oglesby wrote: September 29th, 2021, 1:45 pm
larry schaffer wrote: September 29th, 2021, 1:12 pm
leslie renaud wrote: September 29th, 2021, 9:24 am We've found that using glu/fru is much more predictable than using brix for alc conversions.
And do you use a specific conversion factor with glu/fru then? If so, what is it and how 'consistent' is it?

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And have you compared that with that conversion on brix and how close/far away is it?

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#472 Post by Tom DeBiase »

For those who want-need more ripeness or hang time the next 5 days (Thursday through Monday)in Sonoma and Napa counties will be 90 degrees give or take a degree or two. Remember this is a general forecast and does not take into consideration the warmest and coolest areas of both counties.

Starting Tuesday a prolonged cool spell takes place with temps in the upper 60’s - low to mid 70’s.

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#473 Post by leslie renaud »

glu+fru/16.83. It's pretty accurate. Some years the brix correlates, and some don't.

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Tom DeBiase wrote: September 29th, 2021, 3:30 pm For those who want-need more ripeness or hang time the next 5 days (Thursday through Monday)in Sonoma and Napa counties will be 90 degrees give or take a degree or two. Remember this is a general forecast and does not take into consideration the warmest and coolest areas of both counties.

Starting Tuesday a prolonged cool spell takes place with temps in the upper 60’s - low to mid 70’s.

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We're experiencing similar weather down here in Santa Barbara County. It's gonna heat up a bit, at least more inland (it never heats up much near the coast). This will help some varieties that have been 'lagging' catch up a bit.

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leslie renaud wrote: September 29th, 2021, 3:34 pm glu+fru/16.83. It's pretty accurate. Some years the brix correlates, and some don't.
Good to know. Thanks!

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37 here this morning at 4:00 am and of course we're working in our coldest field. Looking forward to getting back into normal sleep patterns.
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Petite sirah pick this morning - just a ton coming in from Calistoga for our Cooper’s Cuvee Blackpaw label. Winery is starting to get slammed.
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#478 Post by Adam Frisch »

Thankfully, ripening slowed down a bit. My fear was that my Arroyo Seco Riesling would hit the sweet spot whilst I was gone, but it's right on track for next week and currently at 21 brix. Next week will bring in most of remaining fruit and I will only have my Santa Ynez Riesling to contend with (always pretty late, normally beginning of Nov).
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#479 Post by Edward H. Earles »

For what it's worth, Accuweather's forecasters released their predictions for the coming winter today....they foresee the 2021-2022 winter in California to be warmer and drier than normal.

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Edward H. Earles wrote: September 30th, 2021, 2:26 pm For what it's worth, Accuweather's forecasters released their predictions for the coming winter today....they foresee the 2021-2022 winter in California to be warmer and drier than normal.
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We are pretty much done. Today we wrapped up a couple fields and brought in about 18 more tons of very ripe Pinot. We could easily pick the final 8-10 tons we have out there, but the winery is full, over booked and trying to turn tanks. So we're off until Tuesday and have our harvest party Wednesday. We picked a record 665 tons in 5 weeks. We usually do that amount in 7 weeks. I'll probably post a more serious recap soon. I REALLY need to get my mind and body back on normal folks routine.
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Casey Hartlip wrote: September 30th, 2021, 4:36 pm We are pretty much done. Today we wrapped up a couple fields and brought in about 18 more tons of very ripe Pinot. We could easily pick the final 8-10 tons we have out there, but the winery is full, over booked and trying to turn tanks. So we're off until Tuesday and have our harvest party Wednesday. We picked a record 665 tons in 5 weeks. We usually do that amount in 7 weeks. I'll probably post a more serious recap soon. I REALLY need to get my mind and body back on normal folks routine.
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More or less slept til 5:45 this morning. Racked our wine a put to barrel. Which involved lifting our two garbage cans with the forklift and siphoned to our 2005 very neutral barrel. As we've done this before, it went pretty smooth. Went to two of my costumers and gathered bins: all 73 marcro accounted for. This process usually takes much longer, but we were more diligent this year. Some paperwork, football, and walks with super dog this weekend. Trying to become a civilian again.
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Casey congratulations on an epic last harvest! Bittersweet though: who will carry future West Coast Weather and Farming threads ?
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Casey Hartlip wrote: October 1st, 2021, 6:47 pm More or less slept til 5:45 this morning. Racked our wine a put to barrel. Which involved lifting our two garbage cans with the forklift and siphoned to our 2005 very neutral barrel. As we've done this before, it went pretty smooth. Went to two of my costumers and gathered bins: all 73 marcro accounted for. This process usually takes much longer, but we were more diligent this year. Some paperwork, football, and walks with super dog this weekend. Trying to become a civilian again.
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#486 Post by larry schaffer »

Casey Hartlip wrote: October 1st, 2021, 6:47 pm More or less slept til 5:45 this morning. Racked our wine a put to barrel. Which involved lifting our two garbage cans with the forklift and siphoned to our 2005 very neutral barrel. As we've done this before, it went pretty smooth. Went to two of my costumers and gathered bins: all 73 marcro accounted for. This process usually takes much longer, but we were more diligent this year. Some paperwork, football, and walks with super dog this weekend. Trying to become a civilian again.
Congrats my friend - and thanks for being such an active part of this thread.

Perhaps those of you who know some of the newer BerserkerDay wineries can reach out to them to have them take part in this thread and become more 'active' participants on the board?

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Last picks for us - Yates (Mt. Veeder) cabernet coming in tomorrow and George III cab (Rutherford) coming in on friday. So far across the board, quality has been excellent but yields have been down around 20-25% and we are expecting the same from these two.
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Here are the last three of over 1300 bins my crew picked this season. We did 7 weeks worth of picking in 5 due to the very compressed harvest.
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Congratulations, Casey.

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Interesting study on effects of warming temperature over time on sugar and wine quality in Napa and Bordeaux

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Summary: quality ratings increased with harvest sugar levels, though the effect was more significant for Bordeaux than Napa

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We had our harvest party/lunch yesterday. Local taco lady put on a great spread including tongue...with lots of spicy salsas. About 4-5 of my local winery clients came... Navarro, Husch, Philips Hill and Roederer which was nice. The crews kids got out of school early so they got in on the action too. After things thinned out the ladies fired up the music and the dance party was on. So fun to see my friends dancing uninhibited in our barn. I complained about all the Latin music so they played Billy Idol White Wedding for me so I had to do a solo with all of my ladies crew. Luckily no video was taken. Unlike some of my harvest parties of the 80's with unspeakable supplements we started this event early.

Tractor guys this morning were on cultivation and seeding. Some folks washing bins and others doing general clean up. Going to start removing 6 acres of old AXR chard tomorrow so it never ends.
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Our 18th harvest is in the books! Finished up with our Rutherford Cab today. Overall the vintage was a little light but great quality across the board.
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#493 Post by larry schaffer »

'Round 2' throughout Santa Barbara County has begun - time for Rhone reds to start their parade to wineries. Brought in Cinsault for Rose and some Carignane, and have Grenache and Syrah coming in from the Larner Vineyard this coming week. Still have Mourvedre hanging fir both Rose and Red, more Grenache, Cinsault and a bit of Counoise.

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In 3-4 more days we should have all 180 acres completed drilling cover crop.....every other row.

Bummer is the 10 day forecast looks bleak.
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ZAP! Say goodbye to fall colors in Anderson Valley. 26 degrees out there this morning.
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Maybe not done? Most of my vineyard got frosted the other night, but I still have some Gewurtz out there hoping to pick for late harvest. Yes we've washed everything and put it all away. If this particular client wants the fruit we'll use their bins. They're hoping for 35 brix. The friggin bears are eating it pretty fast.
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#497 Post by Roy Piper »

Been like a zombie for 3 weeks. Just now getting more than 6.5 hours sleep and checking the boards.

Moulds and Greer are at 0.4 brix and ferments seem slightly quicker than usual this year. YANs were low (85-95) but brix were also below average for me, even though I picked a few days later than in 2018 and 2019. Moulds came off at 25.7. Greer will finish as my first-ever wine below 14% alcohol and is a very different animal than Moulds.

I like quality a lot and it seems everyone else does too. Yields for most Napa vineyards I've heard of were down 10-20%. pHs are lower than usual and most others also seemed to have had lower brix too.

I'm just glad we HAD a vintage in 2021. The quality is a big bonus.
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#498 Post by Steve Nordhoff »

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The Tench fruit looks awesome. Picked Tuesday.
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