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#1 Post by Mark Golodetz » June 9th, 2020, 9:48 am

My first PBJ, peanut butter and jelly sandwich to the uninitiated. Took nearly forty years to try one, and it seemed to work in an odd way. Not quite sweet on sweet, the peanut butter took on a slight savory note, but the raspberry jam’s acidity was a nice counterbalance to the heavy fat in the peanut butter. Can’t say I will be eating another soon, but glad I finally tried it.
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#2 Post by Andrew K. » June 9th, 2020, 10:38 am

Next you'll have to try PB & banana with honey.
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#3 Post by Corey N. » June 9th, 2020, 10:44 am

I'd respectfully recommend you give "The Elvis" a shot. Named after The King himself, it's peanut butter, banana, bacon, and sometimes honey, on toasted white bread. You might even say that it's a meal fit for a King.

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#4 Post by Jim Stewart » June 9th, 2020, 11:01 am

Mark, what has kept you away for so long? Not to pry, but where/how did you grow up to not have been introduced to this treat before now?
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#5 Post by Betty C » June 9th, 2020, 12:29 pm

Many years ago, I attended school with students from overseas. When one of them, a Japanese man, told me that he had never had a PB&J, I promptly made him one.

He took one bite, his eyes growing big as saucers as he looked at me and said, "This is why Americans are fat!"
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#6 Post by Tom G l a s g o w » June 9th, 2020, 1:22 pm

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My first PBJ, peanut butter and jelly sandwich to the uninitiated. Took nearly forty years to try one, and it seemed to work in an odd way. Not quite sweet on sweet, the peanut butter took on a slight savory note, but the raspberry jam’s acidity was a nice counterbalance to the heavy fat in the peanut butter. Can’t say I will be eating another soon, but glad I finally tried it.
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#7 Post by Victor Hong » June 9th, 2020, 1:24 pm

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Many years ago, I attended school with students from overseas. When one of them, a Japanese man, told me that he had never had a PB&J, I promptly made him one.

He took one bite, his eyes growing big as saucers as he looked at me and said, "This is why Americans are fat!"
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#8 Post by Sean Devaney » June 9th, 2020, 2:12 pm

PBJ is an all American sandwich. Now a PBJ made of Screwball peanut butter whiskey and blackberry moonshine is revolting [barf1.gif]

My dad was fond of peanut butter and jelly and butter sandwiches. He grew up during the depression and apparently a thing.

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#9 Post by Mark Golodetz » June 9th, 2020, 3:08 pm

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Mark, what has kept you away for so long? Not to pry, but where/how did you grow up to not have been introduced to this treat before now?
I came to the States from England when I was in my twenties. I did not like the sound of PBJ, so avoided trying it.
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#10 Post by Jim Stewart » June 9th, 2020, 3:48 pm

Mark Golodetz wrote:
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Jim Stewart wrote:
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Mark, what has kept you away for so long? Not to pry, but where/how did you grow up to not have been introduced to this treat before now?
I came to the States from England when I was in my twenties. I did not like the sound of PBJ, so avoided trying it.
I know where you are coming from. My wife came to the States at age 19. After we married she could not understand my fondness for peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. I can still hear her: "Disgusting, how can you eat that?" Gradually and after many years she was willing to try it. And over another period of time she went from "not as bad as I thought it would be" to actually enjoying it. So there is hope for you still.
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#11 Post by David K o l i n » June 9th, 2020, 3:52 pm

Mark Golodetz wrote:
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Mark, what has kept you away for so long? Not to pry, but where/how did you grow up to not have been introduced to this treat before now?
I came to the States from England when I was in my twenties. I did not like the sound of PBJ, so avoided trying it.
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#12 Post by Bdklein » June 9th, 2020, 5:29 pm

I am an American and don't like peanut butter , so have never had one. Maybe one day I will have a cashew , almond, sunflower , etc. and jelly sandwich. I have had cream cheese and jelly, which is yummy .
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#13 Post by Andrew K. » June 9th, 2020, 5:55 pm

Bdklein wrote:
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I have had cream cheese and jelly, which is yummy .
I used to love cream cheese and jelly on my blueberry bagel.
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#14 Post by Tom G l a s g o w » June 9th, 2020, 6:37 pm

Andrew K. wrote:
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I have had cream cheese and jelly, which is yummy .
I used to love cream cheese and jelly on my blueberry bagel.
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#15 Post by Linda Baehr » June 9th, 2020, 7:49 pm

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My dad was fond of peanut butter and jelly and butter sandwiches. He grew up during the depression and apparently a thing.
My dad used to eat peanut butter and butter sandwiches. My mother and I thought it was disgusting.
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#16 Post by RyanC » June 9th, 2020, 8:16 pm

PB&J may be the perfect food. I think I ate it every day during 3 years of law school.
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#17 Post by c fu » June 9th, 2020, 8:20 pm

it's all about the nut butter and jam you use.
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#18 Post by David Wright » June 9th, 2020, 10:01 pm

As a 7-yr-old kid I thought peanut butter and cheese sandwiches rocked. Nowadays we keep peanut butter and almond butter in the fridge for the occasional PB or AB on toast with coffee. For years the Arrowhead Mills Deaf Smith PB (Valencia peanuts) was our house PB, but it became hard to find. Currently we stock the Costco organic peanut butter, which is made with Valencia peanuts and actually pretty good.

NB: Jif, Skippy, etc. are at best facsimiles of peanut butter; they replace peanut oil with palm oil, canola, or similar, then top it off with sugar. Basically peanut-flavored, sweetened Crisco.

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#19 Post by Craig G » June 9th, 2020, 10:05 pm

Linda Baehr wrote:
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My dad was fond of peanut butter and jelly and butter sandwiches. He grew up during the depression and apparently a thing.
My dad used to eat peanut butter and butter sandwiches. My mother and I thought it was disgusting.
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#20 Post by Robert M yers » June 9th, 2020, 10:48 pm

I’ve never had one either as I don’t like peanuts and can’t remember ever having the butter. I dont like jelly/jam either and haven’t had any since I licked the contents out of one of those individual containers at Denny’s or something as a kid.

I‘ve come around on lots of different food since I was a kid, but I don’t see this one ever making the cut for me.

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#21 Post by Sarah Kirschbaum » June 10th, 2020, 4:38 am

I grew up here and I've never had one. I don't think it ever occurred to my parents to give me one, and I never asked.

I've had the flavors together in desserts where chefs were trying for whimsical, so I can see how it works. Now, since I almost never eat anything as sweet as jam, and rarely eat bread, it's unlikely to happen. I'd rather save my sandwich treats for other things.
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#22 Post by T Klonoski » June 10th, 2020, 4:44 am

I much prefer Skippy to other major brands.
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#23 Post by Dan Hammer » June 10th, 2020, 9:23 am

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I had PB&J on whole grain bread twice, at the beginning of Covid-19. It was a nice change of pace from various egg concoctions and supermarket deli meat sandwiches. Try it with name brand chunky peanut butter. The crunch makes the difference.
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#24 Post by Siun o'Connell » June 10th, 2020, 9:32 am

Nope ... none of that chunky or healthy stuff. Skippy creamy peanut butter, Welch’s grape jelly (not jam), Pepperidge Farms Original White bread, side of Potato Chips (not baked), glass of cold whole milk. Heaven. The salt of the chips is crucial imho.

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#25 Post by C. Mc Cart » June 10th, 2020, 9:34 am

Is PB&J an American invention? I guess it must be.

While the ying/yang of mouth coating PB, against the acidic jam/jelly combo makes sense, let's face it - PB&J is really only a kids sandwich, so not too surprising there's a less than totally positive response on the thread.

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#26 Post by Scott G r u n e r » June 10th, 2020, 9:53 am

A good PBJ is awesome- The issue is there are too many folks that experience bad PBJ- Cheap peanut butter, confected jelly, inferior bread- or one that has been all mushed together in a sandwich bag...

I know it is bad with Hydrogenates, but Jif is the right mix of peanut flavor and creaminess for me- and my mom's homemade raspberry jam on a nice soft piece of seeded wheat bread.
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#27 Post by cjsavino » June 10th, 2020, 10:07 am

And a step beyond pb&j is the pb&fluff
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#28 Post by D@ve D y r 0 f f » June 10th, 2020, 12:22 pm

I was never a huge PBJ fan since I was never a big peanut butter guy. As a kid when everyone else was making a PBJ, I would just make a jelly sandwich (strawberry jam strongly preferred to grape jelly). Of course, at the same time, my brother would just eat peanut butter straight from the jar.

The weird sandwiches in my house when I was a kid were both from my Dad's childhood - he would have radish sandwiches (with butter) and braunschweiger sandwiches (with mayo or Miracle Whip). Usually nothing else on them, maybe sometimes some lettuce. I will never make myself a radish sandwich these days, but I could eat one and it would be fine. And I still love braunschweiger.

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#29 Post by Robert Pollard-Smith » June 10th, 2020, 2:17 pm

Grew up on it, still love it. My biggest quarantine dietary fail has been the result of discovering Santa Cruz Organic Dark Roasted Crunchy. I think I am into the fourth jar since March. Most consumption is via the random rounded teaspoon.
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#30 Post by C. Mc Cart » June 10th, 2020, 2:23 pm

Dave, have heard a few people swear by a radish & butter sandwich. Have not tried one myself.
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#31 Post by M.Kaplan » June 10th, 2020, 3:24 pm

Small radishes on buttered, crusty baguette is a delight.

I only eat PBJ sandwiches now streamside when fishing. They are a perfect combination of highly portable salt, fat, sweet, and protein. My favorite peanut butter is Magee's Krunchy from The Farmers Market. Peanuts only (no additives of any kind); requires refrigeration as it isn't shelf stable. Buttering the jam/jelly side of the bread is essential; adds flavor as well as protects the bread from saturation. As long as I'm buttering one side of the sandwich, might as well butter the peanut butter side as well...

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#32 Post by Joe W i n o g r a d » June 10th, 2020, 3:27 pm

If you can enjoy a linzer cookie then you can enjoy a pbj. It’s all in the execution.

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#33 Post by Todd F r e n c h » June 10th, 2020, 3:46 pm

I still love an occasional PB&J - it's my go-to road food, like today, on the way to the doctor's office (40 min away), I packed myself a lunch with a PB&J in it and was actually excited :)
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#34 Post by Alex N » June 10th, 2020, 4:16 pm

Isn't Britain about as known for revolting concoctions? After trying haggis, black pudding, jellied eels, full english breakfast (and watching Marco Pierre White concoct 90% of the time) I'd hold that to be true but love me some good fish and chips. I don't know what defines USA cuisine, but I think it owns BBQ(yay!) and fast food(boo!), burgers, and has taken lots of okay foods to a different level within the states (Mexican, sandwiches, pizza, craft beer).
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#35 Post by David K o l i n » June 10th, 2020, 4:57 pm

I eat a fair amount of peanut butter (Skippy and Velvet (a nod to my childhood), crunchy always) but I don’t remember my last PB&J sandwich - must be more that 40 years ago. I’ve taken to peanut butter on tortilla chips as a occasional snack

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#36 Post by Alex N » June 10th, 2020, 7:43 pm

I never did much pb&j either. Avo, cheese, sprouts, lettuce, tomato was a staple for a long time. The local store has bins of almonds, cashews, peanuts and sort of a "nut of the week" with a grinder to make butter and it's really good. I used to make (my revolting concoction that's not so bad), on spelt toast: almond butter, wilted spinach, avocado. It sounds gross but considering how neutral everything it tastes good and a healthy breakfast and lunch.
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#37 Post by Betty C » June 10th, 2020, 10:59 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
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I still love an occasional PB&J - it's my go-to road food, like today, on the way to the doctor's office (40 min away), I packed myself a lunch with a PB&J in it and was actually excited :)
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#38 Post by P@u1_M3nk3s » June 10th, 2020, 11:37 pm

David Wright wrote:
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As a 7-yr-old kid I thought peanut butter and cheese sandwiches rocked. Nowadays we keep peanut butter and almond butter in the fridge for the occasional PB or AB on toast with coffee. For years the Arrowhead Mills Deaf Smith PB (Valencia peanuts) was our house PB, but it became hard to find. Currently we stock the Costco organic peanut butter, which is made with Valencia peanuts and actually pretty good.

NB: Jif, Skippy, etc. are at best facsimiles of peanut butter; they replace peanut oil with palm oil, canola, or similar, then top it off with sugar. Basically peanut-flavored, sweetened Crisco.
For 35 years Arrowhead Mills Deaf Smith was the only PB I would eat. Unfortunately they had a couple of incidents with salmonella and the PB seems to have disappeared from the marketplace.
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#39 Post by Adam Frisch » June 11th, 2020, 12:19 am

As an European immigrant, there are a few American classics that belong in the top echelons of any cuisine:

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#40 Post by Adam Frisch » June 11th, 2020, 12:22 am

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I'd respectfully recommend you give "The Elvis" a shot. Named after The King himself, it's peanut butter, banana, bacon, and sometimes honey, on toasted white bread. You might even say that it's a meal fit for a King.

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#41 Post by Mark Golodetz » June 11th, 2020, 5:48 am

Adam Frisch wrote:
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Corey N. wrote:
June 9th, 2020, 10:44 am
I'd respectfully recommend you give "The Elvis" a shot. Named after The King himself, it's peanut butter, banana, bacon, and sometimes honey, on toasted white bread. You might even say that it's a meal fit for a King.

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#42 Post by David Wright » June 11th, 2020, 10:44 am

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As a 7-yr-old kid I thought peanut butter and cheese sandwiches rocked. Nowadays we keep peanut butter and almond butter in the fridge for the occasional PB or AB on toast with coffee. For years the Arrowhead Mills Deaf Smith PB (Valencia peanuts) was our house PB, but it became hard to find. Currently we stock the Costco organic peanut butter, which is made with Valencia peanuts and actually pretty good.

NB: Jif, Skippy, etc. are at best facsimiles of peanut butter; they replace peanut oil with palm oil, canola, or similar, then top it off with sugar. Basically peanut-flavored, sweetened Crisco.
For 35 years Arrowhead Mills Deaf Smith was the only PB I would eat. Unfortunately they had a couple of incidents with salmonella and the PB seems to have disappeared from the marketplace.
Ah, so that's what happened. The Costco stuff (Valencia peanuts) might be worth a try.

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#43 Post by T. Williams » June 11th, 2020, 11:16 am

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And a step beyond pb&j is the pb&fluff

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I ate these everyday for the entire school year when I was in eighth grade. I switched over to jelly from 9th grade onward, to this day I am good for a few PB&Js a week.

Then about 2 years ago I had the opportunity to eat a PB&Fluff. It was the sweetest, worst thing I have eaten in years. I don't know how that stuff has a viable consumer base to still be produced.

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#44 Post by Kenny H » June 11th, 2020, 1:01 pm

I think PBJs are good but we don't eat them. Now PB, banana, bacon, you bet.

I will only admit this once but as a kid, PB, mayo, velveeta, pickle. Not from a parent, we made it up.

BTW- if you can find the "Old Home" all natural peanut butter in the refrigerated section, it is delicious. Otherwise nut butter blends from TJs.
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#45 Post by Corey N. » June 11th, 2020, 2:03 pm

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I'd respectfully recommend you give "The Elvis" a shot. Named after The King himself, it's peanut butter, banana, bacon, and sometimes honey, on toasted white bread. You might even say that it's a meal fit for a King.

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#46 Post by M.Kaplan » June 11th, 2020, 7:40 pm

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#47 Post by Robert M yers » June 11th, 2020, 9:37 pm

[stirthepothal.gif] But do you all refrigerate your peanut butter?

I had no idea this was a controversy until I tried to tell my wife we didn’t need to take up the refrigerator space With her butter.

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#48 Post by Scott Brunson » June 12th, 2020, 6:41 am

My childhood was Jif extra crunchy with my mom’s muscadine (sometimes scuppernong) jelly.
We always had sourwood honey in the house too in case I was craving peanut butter and banana.
I still partake every now and then.
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#49 Post by Mike DiSalvo » June 12th, 2020, 8:46 am

Mark, you really need a tall glass of cold milk with your PBJ! That is like a wine and cheese perfect match! Be a little adventurous with your jam/jelly match, when I was a kid it was strawberry preserves all the way with sometimes peach preserves, but now when I go jelly it is usually a mixed berry or blackberry preserves, hardly ever grape which is what most kids like. I still eat PB (no jelly) just about every morning during the week on toasted wheat bread with black coffee (another great match) and save the jelly/jam for the weekends. Also, I eat mostly Kroger's Organic Simple Truth PB which has 2g sugar and 7g protein per serving.
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#50 Post by Jay Miller » June 12th, 2020, 11:27 am

P@u1_M3nk3s wrote:
June 10th, 2020, 11:37 pm
David Wright wrote:
June 9th, 2020, 10:01 pm
As a 7-yr-old kid I thought peanut butter and cheese sandwiches rocked. Nowadays we keep peanut butter and almond butter in the fridge for the occasional PB or AB on toast with coffee. For years the Arrowhead Mills Deaf Smith PB (Valencia peanuts) was our house PB, but it became hard to find. Currently we stock the Costco organic peanut butter, which is made with Valencia peanuts and actually pretty good.

NB: Jif, Skippy, etc. are at best facsimiles of peanut butter; they replace peanut oil with palm oil, canola, or similar, then top it off with sugar. Basically peanut-flavored, sweetened Crisco.
For 35 years Arrowhead Mills Deaf Smith was the only PB I would eat. Unfortunately they had a couple of incidents with salmonella and the PB seems to have disappeared from the marketplace.
So that's what happened to it. That was my go to as well.

And I'll eat a PB&J about twice a year. Usually just half a sandwich.
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