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NYC: Ravenswood 1/21 @ Bobby Vans [Updated]

#1 Post by Sh@n A » November 13th, 2019, 6:05 am

Themes: wines from the Ravenswood offering

Tuesday, January 21st
Bobby Vans
7:00pm


Seat 1: Sh@n A
Seat 2: Jason T
Seat 3: Jonathan Sirot
Seat 4: Juliec
Seat 5: CliftonD
Seat 6: Thomas Rippe
Seat 7:
Seat 8:

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#2 Post by Jonathan Sirot » November 13th, 2019, 8:46 am

Sounds like a great theme Shan. It solves the problem, that I was only able to snag a few old cabs and merlots, as the Zins went lightning fast. Been a Ravenswood fan since the early 90s when I first got into wine.

I am in.

I can also bring a Champagne to start with, if you would like. I have some new ones that I haven't tried yet.

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#3 Post by Juliec » November 13th, 2019, 9:20 am

Thanks for organizing this Shan. I'll buy a bottle at the event. No ravenwood to date... will be fun to try.
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#4 Post by CliftonD » November 13th, 2019, 9:25 am

I got a couple of bottles so I'm in for this
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#5 Post by Thomas Rippe » November 13th, 2019, 11:00 am

Thanks, Shan. I'd like to join you and purchase a bottle from you. Tom Rippe

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#6 Post by Brent C l a y t o n » November 13th, 2019, 11:32 am

If I have a 90’s Ravenswood not purchased from the library offer can I still attend? 🤔
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Re: NYC: Ravenswood Library Offer 1/21

#7 Post by Jonathan Sirot » November 13th, 2019, 11:54 am

Brent C l a y t o n wrote:
November 13th, 2019, 11:32 am
If I have a 90’s Ravenswood not purchased from the library offer can I still attend? 🤔
I think it's ok as long as you stored it in your library and didn't use the lead pipe on it ! [wow.gif]

This is totally cool. I know all of you folks between past events and the new little group I just formed ! [cheers.gif]

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How appropriate that you start with the Godfather of Zin. Way back in 1976 he made the first single vineyard Zin in Ca, and its been all up hill from there. Now he's back from retirement with his new label Once and Future. If folks want I would be happy to throw one into the tasting as well as buying one the old classics. Would be cool to compare them. I think the new ones are from the Bedrock Vineyard.

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#8 Post by Sh@n A » November 13th, 2019, 12:31 pm

Please post which bottle you are bringing
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Re: NYC: Ravenswood Library Offer 1/21

#9 Post by Jonathan Sirot » November 13th, 2019, 1:46 pm

I was going to buy one of the Old ones from the 90s as well as bring a bottle of Joel Petersons new Zinfandel called Once and Future. After he had sold Ravenswood he started the new label using fruit from the Bedrock Vineyard another of the old vine great vineyards. If I recall the earlier vineyards were Wood Rd, Belloni ,Dickerson etc The Once and Future is either a 2014 or 2015 I would have to check. Thought it would be fun to compare his past wine to the current venture. If it muddies the waters I can simply just buy in on an old bottle but would like to do both. Have no problem with doing 2 bottles I usually do so at my events.

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#10 Post by Sh@n A » November 26th, 2019, 8:03 pm

Seat 1: Sh@n A 1994 Monte Rosso
Seat 2: Juliec 1993 Cooke
Seat 3: Thomas Rippe 1994 Pickberry
Seat 4: Jason T
Seat 5: Jonathan Sirot
Seat 6: CliftonD
Seat 7: Brent C l a y t o n
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#11 Post by Sh@n A » November 26th, 2019, 8:21 pm

Tom/Julie, emailed you with payment details.
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#12 Post by Sh@n A » November 30th, 2019, 8:39 pm

Seat 1: Sh@n A 1994 Monte Rosso
Seat 2: Juliec 1993 Cooke
Seat 3: Thomas Rippe 1994 Pickberry
Seat 4: Jason T
Seat 5: Jonathan Sirot 1993 Dickerson plus TBD Once & Future release (thanks!)
Seat 6: CliftonD 1991 Pickberry
Seat 7: Brent Clayton
Seat 8:
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#13 Post by Sh@n A » December 23rd, 2019, 12:38 pm

River Park was booked, so I booked Bobby Vans on 54th Street location.
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#14 Post by Thomas Rippe » December 23rd, 2019, 1:12 pm

Sounds great, what's the corkage?

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#15 Post by Sh@n A » January 7th, 2020, 8:35 pm

Thomas Rippe wrote:
December 23rd, 2019, 1:12 pm
Sounds great, what's the corkage?
Expect to give up some tastes to staff in exchange for drastically reduced corkage.
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#16 Post by Sh@n A » January 7th, 2020, 8:37 pm

Seat 1: Sh@n A 1994 Monte Rosso
Seat 2: Juliec 1993 Cooke
Seat 3: Thomas Rippe 1994 Pickberry
Seat 4: Jason T
Seat 5: Jonathan Sirot 1993 Dickerson plus TBD Once & Future release (thanks!)
Seat 6: CliftonD 1991 Pickberry
Seat 7: Brent Clayton
Seat 8:

Are we all still good to go? Jason/Brent, can you please post wines please?
Julie/Tom/Jonathan, I will be bringing the wines you procured from me (listed above and others).
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Re: NYC: Ravenswood Library Offer 1/21

#17 Post by jeff davidson » January 7th, 2020, 9:01 pm

is there an 8th seat?

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#18 Post by Sh@n A » January 8th, 2020, 5:50 am

jeff davidson wrote:
January 7th, 2020, 9:01 pm
is there an 8th seat?
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#19 Post by Sh@n A » January 8th, 2020, 5:54 am

May be able to switch back to River Park... inquiring now...
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#20 Post by jeff davidson » January 8th, 2020, 6:45 am

Let me conduct a search of the cellar tonight.

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#21 Post by Brent C l a y t o n » January 11th, 2020, 10:26 am

Sorry I have to bail out. Moving 2/1 and a lot to do.
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#22 Post by Sh@n A » January 11th, 2020, 2:22 pm

Going with Bobby Vans. RiverPark did send me an email which I can't find it, and I have the flu and traveling for work next couple days... won't have time to re-reach out and coordinate. Just a heads up RiverPark did have a pre-fix requirement that would cost all-in something like $120-130 or so, so it is a different deal there now for large groups.
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#23 Post by Sh@n A » January 11th, 2020, 2:24 pm

jeff davidson wrote:
January 8th, 2020, 6:45 am
Let me conduct a search of the cellar tonight.
Gonna slot you in Jeff, let me know if I am mistaken! Bring what you got
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#24 Post by Sh@n A » January 11th, 2020, 2:24 pm

Seat 1: Sh@n A
Seat 2: Jason T
Seat 3: Jonathan Sirot
Seat 4: Juliec
Seat 5: CliftonD
Seat 6: Thomas Rippe
Seat 7: Jeff Davidson
Seat 8:

Cancelled:
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Re: NYC: Ravenswood 1/21 @ Bobby Vans [Updated]

#25 Post by jeff davidson » January 12th, 2020, 9:47 am

thanks, me and my 2011 old hill zin are looking forward to it. It's the first day of nyc restaurant week so riverpark would probably have been slammed anyway.

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#26 Post by Sh@n A » January 17th, 2020, 5:31 pm

Hi all, reconfirming!

Seat 1: Sh@n A
Seat 2: Jason T
Seat 3: Jonathan Sirot
Seat 4: Juliec
Seat 5: CliftonD
Seat 6: Thomas Rippe
Seat 7: Jeff Davidson
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#27 Post by Thomas Rippe » January 17th, 2020, 10:08 pm

I'm in. Please send details.

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#28 Post by Thomas Rippe » January 19th, 2020, 2:24 pm

Confirming 7 pm at this location. Should we bring stems?

Bringing 14 Bader-Mimeur St-Aubin, En Remilly, 1er.

Bobby Vans
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near Park Ave.

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#29 Post by Sh@n A » January 19th, 2020, 4:12 pm

Seat 1: Sh@n A 1994 Monte Rosso
Seat 2: Juliec 1993 Cooke
Seat 3: Thomas Rippe 1994 Pickberry
Seat 4: Jason T
Seat 5: Jonathan Sirot 1993 Dickerson plus TBD Once & Future release (thanks!)
Seat 6: Jeff davidson: 2011 old hill

Current list attached, have not heard from Jason and Jonathan recently but assume they are both coming. CliftonD cancelled.

7pm at Bobby Vans. No need to bring stems, they are good for that.
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#30 Post by Jonathan Sirot » January 21st, 2020, 11:19 am

Shan, i think.i sent you an email.yeterday, but in case it didn't go through, this is my official confirmation that I will be there tonight. See y'all soon. I predict several of these old gems will really shine..

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#31 Post by Sh@n A » January 21st, 2020, 11:24 am

Jason T dropped out, so then there were 5. But these 5 have all confirmed, so we are good.
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#32 Post by Ian S » January 21st, 2020, 2:43 pm

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#33 Post by Sh@n A » January 22nd, 2020, 5:48 am

I am sure others will chime in with their notes/thoughts.

Wines were double decanted 1.5 hours prior to consumption for sediment. After standing for nearly 2 months, all wines were poured clear except for small haze on the Dickerson which never 100% settled. Pristine corks.

WOTY (Red):
1993 Monte Rosso. Sumptuous and rounded, but elegant. Not a layered, complex wine, but was well balanced and could be drunk without food. Wine held up through the night. Sub 15% alc if I recall, closer to 14% than 15%. The library release price was probably fair here IMHO, but wouldn't call this a shocking value etc. A big step up ahead of the Cooke/Dickerson and other zins tried.

Runners Up:
1991 Pickberry, merlot/cab/cab franc blend. Really great for the first hour. I personally wouldn't put it up there in the best 90s cabs/cab blends that I have had, but it was still very, very good. Fell off by hour 2-3.
1993 Cooke 100% Zinfandel. Had some corkiness which blew off (mostly) over time. Also fell off by hour 2-3.

Others:
1993 Dickerson. Was never up to the standard of the cook from the get go
2011 Old Hill. A little ripe and a little alcoholic.
2014 O&F Bedrock Vineyard. A little ripe and a little alcoholic.

Enjoyed the St. Aubin that Tom brought, and of course the 2008 Cristal that J Sirot shared to celebrate a personal event. Happily, I was not allergic to either the Aubin or the Cristal, and was able to put down some of that.
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#34 Post by Juliec » January 22nd, 2020, 7:56 am

Thanks Shan for the grand plan/prep of the Ravenswood line up and arranging the rest pairin’ to the wines. It was good to try the aged zin and ca blends. Agree with the notes. Monte Rosso Vineyard had a strong showing. Pick berry good blend. Amazing how tannic the Cooke was still. Thanks Jonathan for sharing the Cristal and O&F. Tom it was a wonderful St A. Jeff the OH was good to taste through different vineyards.
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#35 Post by Thomas Rippe » January 22nd, 2020, 6:07 pm

Thanks to all for company and generosity. Thanks to Shan for organizing and decanting many bottles. Good company, food and service was good.

I'm not so familiar with Ravenswood beyond the occasional $25 Zin current release on the shelf that was too big for me. This tasting was an eye opener. All the wines showed well but one. They were easy to drink, perfectly balanced, desirable- not too big. The '93's were surprisingly in excellent shape with no orange edges and will hold. The newer releases of single vineyards showed very well. Notes, missing a couple of things:

08 Crystal was easily WOTN. Great thanks to Jonathan.

Next best was '93 Cooke Zin. It's great elegance along with balance and perfect fruit brought it above the rest. Drinking perfectly.

Close second was the '93 Monte Rosso. Completely healthy, will hold, beautiful balance.

'11 old Hill. Everything in place, completely accessible, showing well. Delicious.

'93 Dickerson. Out of sorts. Not at all together. Hold a couple of years to see what happens. Not over the hill.

We started with a white burg. '14 Bader- Mimeur, St. Aubin, En Remilly This was second try after a bottle two months earlier that showed more generous and open. It was a beautiful thing. This bottle, young, bit closed, mineral, balanced, feminine. After four hours delicious and beautiful. (tried to buy more today at my shop, sold out)

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