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Re: Coronavirus and Summer Travel

#151 Post by Al Osterheld » March 11th, 2020, 8:39 pm

They still need airlines to be flying, which may depend on how many passengers they will be carrying.

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#152 Post by Al Osterheld » March 11th, 2020, 8:39 pm

They still need airlines to be flying, which may depend on how many passengers they will be carrying.

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#153 Post by Richard T r i m p i » March 12th, 2020, 1:13 am

Trips planned in March and April to Breckenridge, Key West and the Galapagos are all toast. A few thousand in losses. C'est la vie.

Nothing planned until PDX in July...and that's now very soft. Definitely delaying reservations for air and hotels. The US (let alone international) travel industry ls getting creamed and unlikely to rebound for 3+ months at the absolute earliest IMHO.

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#154 Post by Michael Martin » March 12th, 2020, 5:21 am

Did you catch the Jet Blue story this morning? Who would want to fly anywhere now.

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#155 Post by Dan Hammer » March 12th, 2020, 6:36 am

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We're headed to the UK next month, and we're still going.

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On second thought. :(

Hopefully, all the trip planning will not be in vain. We were departing to the UK end of March. I hope to reschedule in the fall.
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#156 Post by David K o l i n » March 12th, 2020, 6:37 am

We’re off to LA on Saturday for a week. Summer plans to Europe are on hold

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#157 Post by Jorge Henriquez » March 12th, 2020, 6:40 am

So after sleeping on it last night, fiancée and I decided that our honeymoon is a little less than 60 days out. After the initial 30 day ban expires, we’ll make the final decision whether to cancel or not.
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#158 Post by Steve Gautier » March 12th, 2020, 6:41 am

Michael Martin wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 5:21 am
Did you catch the Jet Blue story this morning? Who would want to fly anywhere now.
I missed it. What was the story?
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#159 Post by Dennis Atick » March 12th, 2020, 6:44 am

Steve Gautier wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 6:41 am
Michael Martin wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 5:21 am
Did you catch the Jet Blue story this morning? Who would want to fly anywhere now.
I missed it. What was the story?
Totally agree with Michael. Unless traveling is related to critical work or some type of emergency, I'd not be flying anywhere for a while.

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#160 Post by Joe Dulworth » March 12th, 2020, 8:31 am

My annual convention trip to Las Vegas scheduled for next Tuesday through Friday being held at the Aria this year was just now cancelled. Now the mad dash to cancel the hotel room, airfare, etc... I'm betting they keep the convention fee to offset costs.
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#161 Post by Victor Hong » March 12th, 2020, 9:07 am

Lots of re-pricings for Noo Yawk AirBnBs.

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#162 Post by Bdklein » March 12th, 2020, 9:35 am

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We have a little quandry. We live in the US -our younger daughter is scheduled to go to Southern Italy in early April for a school trip, and my wife and I are scheduled to go to Amsterdam for a few days during her trip. We are using Airbnb so already paid half; the balance is due in late March . And we might need to stick around for some health concerns for our older daughter.

We will figure it all out-or circumstances may make the decisions for us.
High school trip canceled .
So I told my wife I’m not leaving the country. Concerned about getting stuck/quarantined, and not with our kids. In her typical fashion, she says I’m overreacting and she’s going to find someone else to go with. I wish her luck .

Then she takes our child to doctor today for a routine shot. Doctor tells my wife she should not leave the country. Perhaps she’s coming around.
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#163 Post by PaulMills » March 12th, 2020, 10:21 am

My wife and her mom just canceled their trip to Europe, they were supposed to leave in two weeks. We have a trip booked for Spain in July, hopefully it will be safe then. We have another trip booked to Costa Rica in December, there will hopefully be a vaccine by then.

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#164 Post by Michael O'Brien » March 12th, 2020, 10:55 am

Our first scheduled trip is an Alaskan cruise in July and then on to visit friends in Toronto. We can cancel the cruise up to 24 hours before sailing for a voucher worth 100% of what we paid. That isn't perfect but it is better than losing money. Because of the way American Airlines is restricting its cancellation policy, we could lose about $3,000 on the air. We are hoping that the policy will change if this situation continues. We are also booked on an eastern seaboard cruise in September as well as a land trip to Sayulita, Mexico for Christmas. If the Coronavirus is not in check by then, we all have much bigger problems. Now, we wait.
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#165 Post by Joe Dulworth » March 12th, 2020, 12:00 pm

Michael O'Brien wrote:
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Because of the way American Airlines is restricting its cancellation policy, we could lose about $3,000 on the air.
Michael, I just got off with American not 2 hours ago. 100% credit for use against other flights before 12/31/2020. No change fee. Give them a call again and setup your number for a call back. All I had to do is ask.

And yes, I bought it in February for travel next week. You might be outside the tale end of the window though.
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#166 Post by mark rudner » March 12th, 2020, 12:43 pm

Joe Dulworth wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 12:00 pm
Michael O'Brien wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 10:55 am
Because of the way American Airlines is restricting its cancellation policy, we could lose about $3,000 on the air.
Michael, I just got off with American not 2 hours ago. 100% credit for use against other flights before 12/31/2020. No change fee. Give them a call again and setup your number for a call back. All I had to do is ask.

And yes, I bought it in February for travel next week. You might be outside the tale end of the window though.
we had the same experience with aa today
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#167 Post by David Kaufman » March 12th, 2020, 2:22 pm

Supposed to leave with the family for spring break in Maui on Saturday. Still planning to go, although the president’s comments today about potential domestic travel restrictions have me a bit more worried than I was yesterday.

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#168 Post by Michael O'Brien » March 12th, 2020, 3:43 pm

We bought our tickets last September because we knew the dates of the cruise and fares were lower than they are now. We will wait it out and see if we can still make the cruise. If we can't, then I will contact American and see what if anything can be done.
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#169 Post by M.Kaplan » March 12th, 2020, 6:43 pm

My son who also lives in LA has a reservation at Alinea Saturday. He and his friend planned to take the red eye after work tomorrow to Chicago and have dinner Saturday. He reached out an hour ago to his lifelong buddy, Ted Long, who is responsible for ambulatory care at New York City Health + Hospitals, the largest public healthcare system in the U.S. Teddy told him to cancel, which he did.
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#170 Post by Michael Martin » March 12th, 2020, 6:46 pm

We’re building a house, then the move, then all the other stuff related to a new house. Probably won’t fly for at least another 18 months. Hoping it’s safe by then. [wow.gif] [snort.gif]

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#171 Post by David K o l i n » March 12th, 2020, 6:51 pm

M.Kaplan wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 6:43 pm
My son who also lives in LA has a reservation at Alinea Saturday. He and his friend planned to take the red eye after work tomorrow to Chicago and have dinner Saturday. He reached out an hour ago to his lifelong buddy, Ted Long, who is responsible for ambulatory care at New York City Health + Hospitals, the largest public healthcare system in the U.S. Teddy told him to cancel, which he did.
A couple of open resos at Alinea today. Why did his buddy tell him to cancel? The flight? Eating out?

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#172 Post by M.Kaplan » March 12th, 2020, 7:07 pm

The flights and the airports.
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#173 Post by David K o l i n » March 12th, 2020, 7:09 pm

M.Kaplan wrote:
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The flights and the airports.
Thanks. Looking forward to my ORD to LAX flight on Saturday now

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#174 Post by M.Kaplan » March 12th, 2020, 7:21 pm

My daughter just cancelled her JFK-LAX tix next week following the same advice as my son. Ymmv.
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#175 Post by David Kaufman » March 12th, 2020, 8:20 pm

David Kaufman wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 2:22 pm
Supposed to leave with the family for spring break in Maui on Saturday. Still planning to go, although the president’s comments today about potential domestic travel restrictions have me a bit more worried than I was yesterday.
Pulled the plug. Rescheduling to summer. Not worth the risk right now

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#176 Post by Joe Chanley » March 13th, 2020, 7:07 am

Joe Chanley wrote:
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My parents are supposed to go to Australia and New Zealand in mid-March for just shy of 4 weeks.....they are very concerned. So hard to get reliable information and determine whether it is real or fear-mongering/panic.
Finally convinced my parents they were insane to even be debating this and they pulled the plug on their trip thankfully.

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#177 Post by Al Osterheld » March 13th, 2020, 9:45 am

Starting yesterday, Dept of State is advising against traveling abroad (same would apply for others traveling to US). Previously, there advisory only included a handful of countries.

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#178 Post by Dennis Atick » March 13th, 2020, 6:37 pm

Just reflecting on the fact that I started this thread two weeks ago and how much has changed in that time.
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#179 Post by Jim Brennan » March 13th, 2020, 8:51 pm

M.Kaplan wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 7:07 pm
The flights and the airports.
My son is doing his sophomore year of college in Salzburg Austria. We're keeping him there... he's young, healthy, and hopefully the Uni in Salzburg will figure out some remote learning since they are temporarily closed. Putting him on a plane seems unnecessary and, if anything, more likely to have him pick up something and bring it back. The biggest thing I've told him to do is try to grab a week or two worth of canned goods and non-perishable foods, on the off chance that some kind of quarantine occurs and he can't easily get out to grab stuff for a few days.

We're supposed to fly out there at the end of June... we'll see how that goes as we approach that date. Who knows, perhaps temperature and humidity changes will mitigate the virus, though I wouldn't count on that hunch.

One interesting note is that he's learning to assess risk.. he has joined a local orchestra (in addition to college) and they still had a trip to Croatia to perform today. He pinged me about it earlier in the week, and I told him it's not advisable, not because he's likely to get sick, but moreso because he's neither an Austria citizen or a member of an EU state, and there's some risk introduced by border crossing these days. I was pleased that he thought to ask.

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#180 Post by Jorge Henriquez » March 14th, 2020, 6:09 am

Jorge Henriquez wrote:
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Oh man. Honeymoon plans have been booked for weeks now. Southern Spain (and Mallorca) plus central France.

At this point we are trudging ahead unless something out of our control happens.
Sigh, May honeymoon postponed. The tough reimbursement will be with Easyjet for a Mallorca to Lyon puddle jumper. They’re allowing for changes but not knowing when we’d be able to go or even where we’d be able to go, doesn’t really work for us.
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#181 Post by Dennis Atick » March 14th, 2020, 7:46 am

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#182 Post by Brad S c h i e r » March 14th, 2020, 9:15 am

We were supposed to leave for Aruba today and cancelled. Have a Disney trip in April that am waiting to cancel until Disney officially closes the parks (only closed through March 31 as of now) so I have a bit more flexibility with them.

All summer plans on hold pending more info.

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#183 Post by Mike Wenzel » March 14th, 2020, 9:35 am

Mike Wenzel wrote:
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Scheduled to leave for Hawaii two weeks from today for Spring Break with my kids, aged 11 and 14. SFO to Big Island. Booked a few months ago, still planning to go as of now.

Scheduled to fly to Vancouver in June, holding off on booking flights. Scheduled to go to Caribbean in July, holding off on booking flights.
Scheduled to leave tomorrow, cancelled, rescheduling for June as of now.

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#185 Post by Dennis Atick » March 14th, 2020, 10:18 am

I posted this in the other thread:

Time to really think about your behavior. Sobering.

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#186 Post by Siun o'Connell » March 14th, 2020, 11:39 am

Following Slavitt and Juliette Kayyem ground me in fact ... even when I'd rather not hear them.

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#187 Post by Dennis Atick » March 14th, 2020, 12:30 pm

France locking down

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#188 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » March 14th, 2020, 12:39 pm

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#189 Post by Steve Manzi » March 15th, 2020, 10:14 am

Dennis Atick wrote:
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I posted this in the other thread:

Time to really think about your behavior. Sobering.

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#190 Post by Marcus Dean » March 15th, 2020, 1:38 pm

Joe Chanley wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 7:07 am
Joe Chanley wrote:
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My parents are supposed to go to Australia and New Zealand in mid-March for just shy of 4 weeks.....they are very concerned. So hard to get reliable information and determine whether it is real or fear-mongering/panic.
Finally convinced my parents they were insane to even be debating this and they pulled the plug on their trip thankfully.
Lucky, they would have had to 2 weeks of forced isolation in Australia and then 2 weeks of forced isolation in New Zealand.
As of midnight last night any visitor to NZ must isolate for 14 days on arrival.

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#191 Post by Michael O'Brien » March 16th, 2020, 11:29 am

I have found this website informative and scary at the same time. Refresh your browser every 15 minutes or so and watch the count go up.

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#192 Post by PeterH » March 16th, 2020, 2:34 pm

We got back from a ten day trip to Ecuador/Galapagos today. The country is in the process of shutting down air travel, as is Peru and Argentina.
No one was being allowed to fly into the Galapagos, and everyone was scrambling to leave before further flights are cancelled. Things were pretty much under control there in the morning, as tourism had already mostly dried up. In the evening when we continued our exit out of Quito, the scene was turning frantic. At the end of today, flights from Ecuador will mostly cease, and there are not enough seats to get all tourists out. Since other countries now limiting entry is cutting down on options for people not ready to come home.
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#193 Post by theocorrel » March 16th, 2020, 3:24 pm

Thanks Micheal, that is a very useful site. I wish they had the US broken down by state. I think the logarithmic graphs are key. I'm shocked by the cases per 1M for Germany and France versus China. (I wonder what Wuhan province is?) And I suspect the Seattle/Washington state rate is higher than Germany or France...

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#194 Post by PeterH » March 16th, 2020, 4:18 pm

theocorrel wrote:
March 16th, 2020, 3:24 pm
Thanks Micheal, that is a very useful site. I wish they had the US broken down by state. I think the logarithmic graphs are key. I'm shocked by the cases per 1M for Germany and France versus China. (I wonder what Wuhan province is?) And I suspect the Seattle/Washington state rate is higher than Germany or France...
The reported Washington State rate is about the same as France. I doubt the accuracy of any reported figures, however.
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#195 Post by theocorrel » March 16th, 2020, 4:30 pm

Peter - With the understanding that we essentially have no testing (#makeamericamorons), do you have any idea what the King County rate per 1M is? Based on the numbers on that website - and understood, all numbers are quicksand - it seems the King County rate must be much higher. (King County population 1.9M?; Coronavirus positives 800+? = 421+ per 1M?.) Thanks

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#196 Post by PeterH » March 16th, 2020, 5:01 pm

theocorrel wrote:
March 16th, 2020, 4:30 pm
Peter - With the understanding that we essentially have no testing (#makeamericamorons), do you have any idea what the King County rate per 1M is? Based on the numbers on that website - and understood, all numbers are quicksand - it seems the King County rate must be much higher. (King County population 1.9M?; Coronavirus positives 800+? = 421+ per 1M?.) Thanks
King Co. population is about 2.3M, but yes, the rate is much higher in King County.
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#197 Post by Al Osterheld » March 16th, 2020, 6:28 pm

theocorrel wrote:
March 16th, 2020, 3:24 pm
Thanks Micheal, that is a very useful site. I wish they had the US broken down by state. I think the logarithmic graphs are key. I'm shocked by the cases per 1M for Germany and France versus China. (I wonder what Wuhan province is?) And I suspect the Seattle/Washington state rate is higher than Germany or France...
Wuhan is in Hubei province.

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#198 Post by Bdklein » March 18th, 2020, 11:08 am

Bdklein wrote:
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Bdklein wrote:
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High school trip canceled .
So I told my wife I’m not leaving the country. Concerned about getting stuck/quarantined, and not with our kids. In her typical fashion, she says I’m overreacting and she’s going to find someone else to go with. I wish her luck .

Then she takes our child to doctor today for a routine shot. Doctor tells my wife she should not leave the country. Perhaps she’s coming around.
We are not going . Whether we get our 50% back for a Airbnb TBD.
I had also prepaid for Anne Frank Tour and Museum. Not a lot of money so sent email for them not to refund my money . Hoping for good karma .
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#199 Post by LoriMcLaughlin » March 18th, 2020, 1:26 pm

Trip to Brussels canceled for April. Still have plane and villa reservations for Italy for end of May — just holding tight until the airlines formally cancel the flights and will try to rebook for another time.

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#200 Post by dbailey » March 18th, 2020, 2:46 pm

We had a family trip to Jumby Bay scheduled for 2 weeks time. Booked it all through BA. They emailed us yesterday saying it would all be cancelled and everything (ie whatever cash and airmiles we spent) would be refunded to us immediately. No charges, no taxes withheld/not returned, no messing about, all just immediately returned to the credit card/bank account used. The agent we were dealing with (same guy we always use at BA) said he had personally organised refunds for several million pounds in just the last 2 days...
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