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#1 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » March 24th, 2013, 6:01 pm

Lots of wonderful debate in some on-going Baudry threads about the 2010 Baudry vintage, and whether the Grezeaux or Guillot is more open for business. Nice debate to have over open bottles, eh?

I've tried both over the last 3 nights. I have to acknowledge the edge goes to Grezeaux IMHO, not just to its openness but also to its savory elements. Has more barnyard as well, which is a hallmark for me in Chinons (especially Joguet, which I love)

This is not to say that the Guillot is the red-headed stepchild. This is a damn fine wine. Took some time to open up, and glowing on day two. Elegant pure red fruits, green peppers, cigarette ash and a hint of animale on the nose. Medium bodied, silky with a little graininess on the finish. Crisp, sweetish finish. I love the purity of the fruit on this wine, whereas the Grezeaux shows so much more earth and mineral components.

Any lover of Cab Franc, or Bordeaux for that matter, should have all of the 2010 Baudry cuvees in their cellar. Even the base domaine in this year is smokin. While I think the consensus of what I've read seems to favor 2009, personally I think Baudry produced better wines in 2010, if you prefer more earth than fruit, more acidity, less ripeness. Hmm, sounds like the 2009 v 2010 debate in Bordeaux and Beaujolais as well.
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#2 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » August 30th, 2016, 4:41 pm

So wood has been giving my palate some splinters lately.

This wine has wood done well, matured for 15 months in 3-7 year old burgundy barrels. Nothing, absolutely nothing is out of balance on this young wine. The wood imparts no real signature on this wine, and instead, is just a soft subtle framing note.

The wine is archetype Chinon but perhaps a touch more elegant than most. More on the red spectrum of fruits with some darks in the background. More sheer in materials than the 2010 Les Greazeau and Croix Boissee, medium weight on the palate. Really pretty nose of flowers, wild red fruits, green pepper and ash. Lovely tart and sour red fruits, tangy, savoury herbs, great acid, moderate tannins. Still needs a little time to resolve, but love how all the pieces are coming together.

An excellent wine. Glad I stocked up on the 2009/2010 Baudry cuvées. I bought 2011-13 as well, but they are not at the same level. The 2014 vintage is the next big winner.

Any word on 2015?

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#3 Post by Corey N. » August 30th, 2016, 5:07 pm

Thanks for the notes. Must be nice to recalibrate your palate after you were forced to drink that 75-point Poujeaux.
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#4 Post by Howard Cooper » August 30th, 2016, 6:43 pm

When is Rolland moving to Chinon.
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#5 Post by Marc Frontario » August 30th, 2016, 6:53 pm

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#6 Post by Marc Frontario » August 30th, 2016, 6:54 pm

2010 domaine bottling will challenge their best cuvees from less herald vintages
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#7 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » August 30th, 2016, 6:57 pm

Marc Frontario wrote:2010 domaine bottling will challenge their best cuvees from less herald vintages
The 2014 Les Granges is awesome, too.

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#8 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » August 30th, 2016, 7:18 pm

Howard Cooper wrote:When is Rolland moving to Chinon.
Prolly when I move back to Cuba . . . .

And stick to rum.

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#9 Post by john stimson » August 30th, 2016, 7:19 pm

Any recent reports on 2010 Croix Boisse?

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#10 Post by Howard Cooper » August 31st, 2016, 6:41 am

Robert Alfert, Jr. wrote:
Howard Cooper wrote:When is Rolland moving to Chinon.
Prolly when I move back to Cuba . . . .

And stick to rum.
Well, I now know (if I have any memory) what my April 1 post next year will be about. "Rolland to consult for Baudry, Clos Rougard and Breton."
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#11 Post by Michael Lewis » August 31st, 2016, 6:47 am

john stimson wrote:Any recent reports on 2010 Croix Boisse?
I wouldn't drink the 2010 Croix Boissee right now. If you want to drink a young one, try the 2012. I find it is drinking pretty well for such a young Croix Boissee. A bottle was quickly emptied by some friends a few weeks ago before we were even paying much attention.

The Clos Guillot tends to be more pleasurable at a younger age than either Croix Boissee or (especially) Grezeaux. If you want to drink a 2010 then I would go with that one.
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#12 Post by Corey N. » August 31st, 2016, 7:12 am

Robert Alfert, Jr. wrote:
Howard Cooper wrote:When is Rolland moving to Chinon.
Prolly when I move back to Cuba . . . .

And stick to rum.
Doesn't moving "back" require you to have lived there before?

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#13 Post by Bill Moore » August 31st, 2016, 9:15 am

Michael Lewis wrote:
john stimson wrote:Any recent reports on 2010 Croix Boisse?
I wouldn't drink the 2010 Croix Boissee right now. If you want to drink a young one, try the 2012. I find it is drinking pretty well for such a young Croix Boissee. A bottle was quickly emptied by some friends a few weeks ago before we were even paying much attention.

The Clos Guillot tends to be more pleasurable at a younger age than either Croix Boissee or (especially) Grezeaux. If you want to drink a 2010 then I would go with that one.
Big +1 on Michael's comment. Lay off the 2010 Croix Boissee, as the 2011 and 2012 renditions are much more accessible. I actually thought a recent 2012 could have used more cellar time, as it performed much better after extended aeration than on opening.

The 2012 Clos Guillot is also superb, and may actually better than the Croix Boissee of the same vintage, as it has much more going on aromatically, even if it lacks some of the Croix Boissee's heft.
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#14 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » August 31st, 2016, 9:29 am

This ^

Lay off the 2010 Croix Boissee and the Les Grezeaux. The 2011s are zingers, love the racy acids of that vintage, can drink now but will reward some cellaring. Have not tried the 2012 Croix Boissee but yea the Clos Guillot is excellent.

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#15 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » August 31st, 2016, 5:40 pm

Day two, this wine is gorgeous. More savory and round, with a bit more depth. This is a major winner.

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#16 Post by Corey N. » August 31st, 2016, 5:48 pm

Robert Alfert, Jr. wrote:Day two, this wine is gorgeous. More savory and round, with a bit more depth. This is a major winner.
What's Chris drinking while you're chugging you're beloved Chinon?
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#17 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » August 31st, 2016, 5:59 pm

Funny you mention that. She had a vodka cocktail in a tall-boy. I like my odds tonight. Pardon me, I'll be back in 6-7 minutes.

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#18 Post by Corey N. » August 31st, 2016, 8:30 pm

Robert Alfert, Jr. wrote:Funny you mention that. She had a vodka cocktail in a tall-boy. I like my odds tonight. Pardon me, I'll be back in 6-7 minutes.
I'm assuming that's because at your age, it takes you five minutes to get your pants off.
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#19 Post by Chris Kissack » September 4th, 2016, 4:47 am

More great things coming from this domaine in 2014 and 2015 too. I tasted just about everything produced with Matthieu Baudry a few weeks ago. Both are super vintages. My personal preference was for 2015, which has the makings of a truly great vintage for the Loire, especially the reds, but I think he prefers the style of the 2014s. If you're a fan of the domaine, or Chinon, or Cab' Franc in general, you will be wanting some of these in the cellar.
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#20 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » September 4th, 2016, 5:47 am

Thank you sir, you just prompted me to grab some of the 2015 Les Granges that is just hitting the States!

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#21 Post by Claus Jeppesen » September 4th, 2016, 11:39 am

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Robert Alfert, Jr. wrote:Funny you mention that. She had a vodka cocktail in a tall-boy. I like my odds tonight. Pardon me, I'll be back in 6-7 minutes.
I'm assuming that's because at your age, it takes you five minutes to get your pants off.
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#22 Post by AlexS » October 5th, 2019, 9:27 am

bump

No formal notes, but last night I opened up a bottle of 2010 Guillot and it's in a really nice place - aromatically, moving towards tertiary with savory aromas becoming quite prominent yet still showing enough fruit/green to know it's Baudry. Very well-rounded and integrated on the palate, the tannins so much more civilized. Reminded me of aged Bordeaux meets the Loire, tbh. Even better w/dinner.

Have to admit, in terms of accessibility, this wasn't my favorite vintage of Guillot on release - glad I gave this one a bit of time in the cellar before revisiting and I'd guess it will continue drinking well over the next 5-10+ years before starting to decline (or many more if your cellar is on the chilly side, mine's passive).
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#23 Post by Todd F r e n c h » November 7th, 2019, 12:05 pm

Just bit on some of Envoyer's offer of the 2017 Guillot, at $26.99 per
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#24 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » November 7th, 2019, 12:21 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
November 7th, 2019, 12:05 pm
Just bit on some of Envoyer's offer of the 2017 Guillot, at $26.99 per
What's the word on the 2017 vintage?

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#25 Post by Todd F r e n c h » November 7th, 2019, 12:28 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
November 7th, 2019, 12:21 pm
Todd F r e n c h wrote:
November 7th, 2019, 12:05 pm
Just bit on some of Envoyer's offer of the 2017 Guillot, at $26.99 per
What's the word on the 2017 vintage?
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