2011 Quilceda Creek Cab Who is buying

[ky1em1ttskus]

Do we need to have another conversation about basic economics? Something is worth what someone will pay. If people are paying, it’s not too expensive. Class dismissed.

[Mark_Y]

@Steve Saxon

OBO means Or best offer

Kinda did in that thread, but guess it’s not ‘best’ enough?

[Steve_Saxon]

@markye

@Steve Saxon

OBO means Or best offer

Kinda did in that thread, but guess it’s not ‘best’ enough?

Actually, wines are now pending.

[M.Kaplan]

@kylemittskus

…
Also, who’s going to post the Kool-Aid man pic? We’re still missing that one.

Probably no one, because Quilceda Creek tastes nothing like Kool-Aid. Maybe prune juice + Everclear, but definitely not Kool-Aid.

[Chris_Seiber]

I’ve liked the Palengat Red Wine, a BDX blend they make with around 70% cab or so, and sells for around $90. It doesn’t have the harsh tannins of the cabernet or the Columbia Red Wine, and I think the value proposition is better than cabernet, while not necessarily being super strong QPR. I think the Palengat is maybe bit on the soft/round side, and is a good one for earlier drinking, while still having the melange of mint, dark chocolate, black fruits and so forth as you’d expect from a QC.

I opened a 2005 QC cab last fall, and for my tastes, the wood and tannin are still too strong to be enjoyable. It’s not sweet or goopy or hot, as people in this thread suggest about QC, but the oak and tannin were just too much, even with a big steak. I took it on a whim to a steakhouse on my birthday, and so it didn’t get a long decant, and that probably would have helped.

I see the value proposition thing from both sides. Quilceda is selling a wine with a $180+ market value for $140, plus their price escalation on that wine over the last 15 years has been really pretty reasonable when you look at it, so you can’t really complain about their pricing. On the other hand, I can see how, like most $140+ wines, there are better values available out there for your dollar if you know where to look.

[Scott_Brunson]

I personally have nothing against the price of QC.
My problem is with the wine, particularly since the change in style.
I had the 02 back in the fall and found it sickeningly sweet and over-oaked with little to no acid to balance the ripe flavors.
But, to each his own. Lots of people like listening to Michael Bolton sing but I’m still going to make fun of them.

[Chris_Seiber]

I celebrate the man’s entire catalog.

[Scott_Brunson]

@Chris Seiber

I celebrate the man’s entire catalog.

I’m not going to tell you what I’m listening to–you’ll probably make fun of me

[Chris_Seiber]

You’re probably one of those phonies who tells everyone he loves jazz so dearly because it’s soooo sophisticated, but turns that boring crap off ten seconds after company leaves and turns on NCIS or Big Brother.

[KevinP]

@Steve Saxon

@markye

@Steve Saxon

OBO means Or best offer

Kinda did in that thread, but guess it’s not ‘best’ enough?

Actually, wines are now pending.

I made him an offer that I thought he’d refuse…besides, I rather like skittles. They’re my favorite candy.

[Jim_Karegeannes]

@Joe Galewski

I don’t hate on these wines. The two I’ve had have been very good to great. But even if they hadn’t kicked me off their list for not buying all the time, I don’t see these as being worth $140. At a tasting I went to a couple years ago, the Quilceda Creek barely beat the Betz cab, and the Betz cab was marginally better than Columbia Crest Reserve. So I’ll stick to Columbia Crest Reserve and the Betz when I want to splurge. The Quilceda Creek is just too pricey for what you get. Oh, Corliss too. I’d rather buy a Corliss AND a Betz for the same price as 1 QC.

That’s a good context in which to evaluate these wines - what is it worth to you.
The wine itself has value from the pleasure it brings you. There is also value for some in possessing a certain bottle.
You have to work out the value of each of those in your own mind.

(I’ve been dropped from the mailing list for not ordering)

[Sc0tt_F_tzgerald]

I can’t decide on this vs. passe Bordeaux.

[amjohnstone]

Long-time WB lurker. I’ve been buying QC for eight years. Until this year, my allocation has been six bottles and one mag, and I’d usually take two or three bottles. This year, they cut my allocation to just a single bottle, which came as a bit of a shock. I ordered one and wishlisted a second, but honestly, it made me question whether I should continue ordering.

Not sure how you’d slot this as a psychological quirk / disorder, but I hate ordering a single bottle of anything. I always need a spare.

amj

[Paul_Miller]

@amjohnstone

Long-time WB lurker. I’ve been buying QC for eight years. Until this year, my allocation has been six bottles and one mag, and I’d usually take two or three bottles. This year, they cut my allocation to just a single bottle, which came as a bit of a shock. I ordered one and wishlisted a second, but honestly, it made me question whether I should continue ordering.

Not sure how you’d slot this as a psychological quirk / disorder, but I hate ordering a single bottle of anything. I always need a spare.

amj

And I have not gotten my email yet.

[amjohnstone]

@Paul Miller

And I have not gotten my email yet.

I know production was down in Washington in 2011, but was the harvest that bad?

amj

[SeanHarding]

I logged in to my account and it said I can order on Jan 15. I don’t think I’ve ever bought my full allocation (maybe the first time or two if it was small, but I don’t remember). So I’ll be interested to see what they offer me this time. Honestly I’m probably only in the mood to buy one or two bottles anyway, so that wouldn’t break my heart.

[NED_VALOIS]

Got mine small offering & asked for more

[Paul_Miller]

@SeanHarding

I logged in to my account and it said I can order on Jan 15. I don’t think I’ve ever bought my full allocation (maybe the first time or two if it was small, but I don’t remember). So I’ll be interested to see what they offer me this time. Honestly I’m probably only in the mood to buy one or two bottles anyway, so that wouldn’t break my heart.

Thanks. Just took a look. Monday the 13th for me.

[R_M_Kriete]

@Chris Seiber

By all means, share your experiences. I’m just asking you to look at it from the other side, to see whether you think this kind of response in the threads about wines you love would be helpful and positive, or perhaps you might find it demeaning and snotty, as though the only people who would spend the money on that wine are bunch of rubes and sheep. “Who would pay $200 for this Burgundy crap? You could rake the back yard, soak the leaves and dirt from the pile in pond water for a week, and it would be the same thing. Can I get a high five?” Would it be “flat out silly” to discourage there from being a half dozen posts like that in every Burg or Loire or Rhys thread?

Anyway, I love this board and I value the opinions, but I feel as though sometimes we need to stick our necks out a bit to keep it being a place where people who love different kinds of wines can have respectful and helpful discussions about them (which should certainly include positive and critical comments). So I’ve taken my turn, and not because I’m a big fan of QC. I’ll leave it at that, and if you want to share a different opinion about these kinds of responses, I’ll listen respectfully and then just let this go. Thanks for hearing me out.

+1

[Scott_G_r_u_n_e_r]

I bought a couple today. Even if only to be able to sneak them blind into a tasting with Saxon, it is soooo worth it.

BTW- My allocation was way lower than years past as well. Granted I haven’t used my full alloc in years either.