2018 gonon rouge

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Chave is also not single vineyard.

Chave has been bottling a single vineyard St. Joseph Clos Florentin since 2015. I haven’t tasted it yet but it will be interesting to compare to the blend.

At $125 (only one offer today in Wine Searcher, perhaps it will be lower when more widely released?) how interested are you in the 2017 Clos Florentin?

According to JLL website, Chave makes only 2000 to 3000 bottles of Clos Florentine, not may to go around.

[R_Frankel]

Chave has been bottling a single vineyard St. Joseph Clos Florentin since 2015. I haven’t tasted it yet but it will be interesting to compare to the blend.

At $125 (only one offer today in Wine Searcher, perhaps it will be lower when more widely released?) how interested are you in the 2017 Clos Florentin?

I don’t expect it to go lower now, but that’s not what I paid.

I look forward to tasting yours .

[Michae1_P0wers]

He was probably referring to the Les Iles Feray bottle being the “entry level” bottling.

Yes. And the entry point is now > $50. Has been really solid for many years but has now gotten pricey with all the rage for Gonon.

Yes, those were the days. But if i remember, even back then i was only able to get a bottle or two per vintage.
I really like the patrick jasmin la chevaliere as a substitute these days for my budget.

I love the Iles de Feray and used to buy a case+ every vintage. Sadly have none since '16 though. That’s down to availability rather than pricing, but I also wouldn’t pay what is currently asked. For me, the Jasmin is okay, but nowhere near the quality of the Gonon. I’d much (much, much) rather have Faury or a few others as substitutes, but none are really the same. The IdF, whether from a substandard region or not, has always been so incredibly vibrant. That Gonon is able to wring such quality out of vines on the flat, while so many others make such middling St. Josephs from better terroir says a lot about Gonon, and hopefully suggests that there could yet be qualitative improvements in the region.