Becheur 2018 Cabernet

[Michael_B1]

You think this one will be better than the de Negoce ones? With current pricing at $35 and average at $25, its a fair bit more than the OG series of cabs. Curious your thoughts on it, as I’m still on the fence.

I too am curious as to why the posters here would pay $20plus a bottle more for a “mystery” Cabernet ( than Cameron Hughes’ De Negoce ).
Please clarify.

Speaking only for myself, while I didn’t pay over $20, I would think the pedigree of the location would make that a decent risk.

[Steve_Crawford]

You think this one will be better than the de Negoce ones? With current pricing at $35 and average at $25, its a fair bit more than the OG series of cabs. Curious your thoughts on it, as I’m still on the fence.

I too am curious as to why the posters here would pay $20plus a bottle more for a “mystery” Cabernet ( than Cameron Hughes’ De Negoce ).
Please clarify.

2018 cab from western oakville. if you don’t think that’s worth 20 dollars, then yea it’s not worth the discussion.

[MatthewT]

You think this one will be better than the de Negoce ones? With current pricing at $35 and average at $25, its a fair bit more than the OG series of cabs. Curious your thoughts on it, as I’m still on the fence.

I too am curious as to why the posters here would pay $20plus a bottle more for a “mystery” Cabernet ( than Cameron Hughes’ De Negoce ).
Please clarify.

I answered. This is a small batch Cab (less than 125 cases) and has the makings of something special. There is room in my cellar for De Negoce and this. Who knows which one will be the better QPR.

[Jeff_M1]

Surprised that they shipped my order during a summer heatwave even though its going out via GSO. Wish they would have done a weather hold until cooler weather is here in CA.

[MatthewT]

He says at bottom will be shipping only to western states. Must have ice packs. Mine is coming overnight to San Diego and I don’t think heat will be an issue even w/o ice packs.

[MatthewT]

Delivered! Decanting already. I know bottle shock, etc. But I need to see how good this is to know if I buy a 2nd case. Will report back.

[Mark_Mo_rr_i_ss_ette]

Delivered! Decanting already. I know bottle shock, etc. But I need to see how good this is to know if I buy a 2nd case. Will report back.

Looking forward to your report!

[Brent_S]

Wine showed up. Super generic. Just says becheur on the front with a bottle number at the bottom (14772) and nothing on the back except the government warning. How do I even know this is the 2018 cab?

[MatthewT]

Yah, I thought that was pretty funny. But I tried it. It’s the cab. And it’s really really good.

[Brent_S]

Guess we need to take a pen and clearly write “2018 Oakville Cab” on the label so we remember.

[Jeff_M1]

Yah, I thought that was pretty funny. But I tried it. It’s the cab. And it’s really really good.

Ok we need some tasting notes!

[MatthewT]

Yah, I thought that was pretty funny. But I tried it. It’s the cab. And it’s really really good.

Ok we need some tasting notes!

Unfortunately I don’t know a thing about wine. Besides liking to drink a lot of it. But I will give you my full impression after I finish the bottle later today.

[Jeff_M1]

Yah, I thought that was pretty funny. But I tried it. It’s the cab. And it’s really really good.

Ok we need some tasting notes!

Unfortunately I don’t know a thing about wine. Besides liking to drink a lot of it. But I will give you my full impression after I finish the bottle later today.

That’s fair. Appreciate the feedback. Mine went to my offsite locker and I am 60+ miles away. I will have to Pobega one when I head that way.

[Roy_Piper]

This is the craziest thing I’ve seen in a while. I love it.

I have no idea which vineyard this is from but guarantee you it ain’t VHR or some Cru-level Oakville vineyard. He would be upside down if he purchased that juice in 2018.

[MatthewT]

Looks like the price has stalled out at $35.60. Does the wine stay live until it’s sold out, or can it be replaced with remaining bottles in stock?

It looks like Vine Hill Ranch based on the description. Saying it’s not old-school counts Martha’s out. I suppose Far Niente fits the bill as well for location and a female winemaker.

the two disqualifiers would be I doubt far niente bulks much out, their production is apples to oranges compared to VHR. as well as a ‘family’ owning the land. i don’t think this would be a true statement or have been since 2003.

one possibility which hasn’t been mentioned is Kelham. not sure if Ham is still the winemaker or if it’s a female now.

kelham east of the 29, lol

[Steve_Crawford]

Looks like the price has stalled out at $35.60. Does the wine stay live until it’s sold out, or can it be replaced with remaining bottles in stock?

It looks like Vine Hill Ranch based on the description. Saying it’s not old-school counts Martha’s out. I suppose Far Niente fits the bill as well for location and a female winemaker.

the two disqualifiers would be I doubt far niente bulks much out, their production is apples to oranges compared to VHR. as well as a ‘family’ owning the land. i don’t think this would be a true statement or have been since 2003.

one possibility which hasn’t been mentioned is Kelham. not sure if Ham is still the winemaker or if it’s a female now.

kelham east of the 29, lol

False.

[YLee]

False, bears eat beets

[MatthewT]

thats weird

[Glen_Gold]

thats weird

Google Maps

Winery is in one place and the vineyard another: https://www.kelhamvineyards.com/our-vineyards

[MatthewT]

Ah, well that makes sense then!