I think the two of you have argued enough…take it to PM, please
Lmao
… Sorry to insult your intellect Joseph the wine genius. I didn’t even write the initial post.
So? It still applies to the OP or do you think you created a new topic?
I think the two of you have argued enough…take it to the Octagon, please
FIFY!
I’m in for 20 bucks for pay per view!
Be specific whether it is the Silver Oak Alexander or Napa. I always find the Alexander over oaked and ‘harsh’ compared to the Napa.
The Napa also benefits from aging and the Alexander does not evolve or benefit from time in bottle to the same degree from my estimation.
I don’t have that much experience with SO from after around 1992, but for the wines from the 80’s up until then, my opinion was roughly the opposite. Both bottlings were very good young (provided you like the style), but over time I usually preferred how the AV aged. To me the Napa didn’t become as interesting, though it generally retained more fruit.
I agree with this 100%, but haven’t tasted a bottle in years.
Maybe we can do a virtual tasting at the upcoming PPV octagon event.
Be specific whether it is the Silver Oak Alexander or Napa. I always find the Alexander over oaked and ‘harsh’ compared to the Napa.
The Napa also benefits from aging and the Alexander does not evolve or benefit from time in bottle to the same degree from my estimation.
I don’t have that much experience with SO from after around 1992, but for the wines from the 80’s up until then, my opinion was roughly the opposite. Both bottlings were very good young (provided you like the style), but over time I usually preferred how the AV aged. To me the Napa didn’t become as interesting, though it generally retained more fruit.
I agree with this 100%, but haven’t tasted a bottle in years.
Maybe we can do a virtual tasting at the upcoming PPV octagon event.
Okay, that made me LOL
Lmao . PPV for charity, loser drinks yellow tail all year??
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PPV for charity, loser drinks yellow tail all year??
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Conveniently, this can be picked up at Trader Joe’s.
Every single Silver Oak from 2008 on has consistently been out of balance and worse than Caymus.
As someone who hates Caymus I don’t know that I would go that far. I had a 09 Silver Oak Napa that was really good on a pop and pour but day 2 was everything I hated about Silver Oak. I can’t remember the last Caymus I could even finish a glass.
I can relate. I was at a party and was served 2012 Caymus Special Selection. I took a sip, gagged, and spit it out right in my host’s face. I stormed off muttering to myself how in the hell do they expect me to finish a glass of this garbage?
- 2010 Caymus Cabernet Sauvignon Special Selection - USA, California, Napa Valley (6/23/2020)
Everything I dislike in red wine: a blast of alcohol heat on the nose; overripe, sweet fruit; flabby, low acidity and structureless; gobs of milk chocolate. I get that this is right in the wheelhouse of some people. À chacun son goût.
- 2010 Caymus Cabernet Sauvignon Special Selection - USA, California, Napa Valley (6/23/2020)
Everything I dislike in red wine: a blast of alcohol heat on the nose; overripe, sweet fruit; flabby, low acidity and structureless; gobs of milk chocolate. I get that this is right in the wheelhouse of some people. À chacun son goût.
Oof. Sounds like the Rob Liefeld of cabernet.
As someone who hates Caymus I don’t know that I would go that far. I had a 09 Silver Oak Napa that was really good on a pop and pour but day 2 was everything I hated about Silver Oak. I can’t remember the last Caymus I could even finish a glass.
I can relate. I was at a party and was served 2012 Caymus Special Selection. I took a sip, gagged, and spit it out right in my host’s face. I stormed off muttering to myself how in the hell do they expect me to finish a glass of this garbage?
- 2010 Caymus Cabernet Sauvignon Special Selection - USA, California, Napa Valley (6/23/2020)
Everything I dislike in red wine: a blast of alcohol heat on the nose; overripe, sweet fruit; flabby, low acidity and structureless; gobs of milk chocolate. I get that this is right in the wheelhouse of some people. À chacun son goût.
Uh oh, someone is about to get fussed at… hope you don’t shop at Trader Joe’s!!
- 2010 Caymus Cabernet Sauvignon Special Selection - USA, California, Napa Valley (6/23/2020)
Everything I dislike in red wine: a blast of alcohol heat on the nose; overripe, sweet fruit; flabby, low acidity and structureless; gobs of milk chocolate. I get that this is right in the wheelhouse of some people. À chacun son goût.Oof. Sounds like the Rob Liefeld of cabernet.
A misshapen mess.