TN--2017 Joseph Colin Chassagne Vide Bourse

Troy_Stark · November 6, 2020, 5:29pm

Excellent info! Thank you.

Mike_Grammer · November 7, 2020, 11:29pm

I do plan to test all this out—someday. It was supposed to be this past July, but alas for COVID.

As part of WineFest V, I have an entire table dedicated to the Colin-Morey empire. I will need to resupply for this bottle which I peeled off, and I still need to get some from Simon and from Emile Jobard-Morey and from Colin-Deleger, but I have a bottle from pretty much everyone else – including a 1980 Albert Morey that the fill doesn’t look too bad on!

Troy_Stark · November 8, 2020, 6:25pm

I can probably connect you directly to Simon, Mike.

William_Kelley · November 8, 2020, 6:45pm

Today, Jobard-Morey doesn’t carry the “Emile” name - it’s Valentin who makes the wines. Is there a connection between those Moreys and they Moreys of Chassagne-Montrachet? I didn’t think there was, but perhaps I am mistaken! Even in Meursault, there used to be siblings Berthe Morey and René Morey, who were no relations to the younger Pierre Morey (who nevertheless ended up exploiting one of their former parcels in Pommard). It can all get a little bewildering, at times…

Troy_Stark · November 8, 2020, 11:54pm

I would be surprised if these folks with common surnames in Burgundy do not share an (unknown to them) common ancestor.

Mike_Grammer · November 26, 2020, 5:58am

Sorry, missed these last replies—Troy, thanks so much—I will let you know!

William—this listing does include the estate—sort of!

https://spitbucket.net/tag/pierre-yves-colin-morey/

MChang · August 7, 2021, 11:46pm

Can anyone provide a guide and rough quality ranking as to the Colin white Burgundy producers? Marc Colin, PYCM, Phillipe Colin, Bruno Colin, and now I see Joseph Colin? All similar styles, all good? Or very different? Obviously PYCM is the most celebrated, are the others all in a lower league entirely?

IMO, you can’t really go wrong with ANY of the Colin family wines. Yes, there are stylistic difference, but all of these are cousins and siblings who grew up together.

There really are two main related branches today stemming from;

Michel & Marc; Brothers

Philippe and Bruno; sons of Michel
– Simon; Philippe’s son (The newest Colin to start a label. Worked as an intern in the WV with a good friend of mine.)

Pierre Yves, Joseph, Caroline, and Damien; Children of Marc Colin.

Pierre Yves is completely independent now, but it is my understanding the other three are all still involved with Domaine Marc Colin; Joseph makes the whites, Damien makes the reds, and Caroline acts as a sort of GM.

Joseph also makes his own wines, but the whites from Dom Marc Colin and from Joseph’s own label should be very similar. In fact, some friends I’ve spoken to suspect they may be identical in some cases (same wine bottled under different labels), but that is just speculation and I’m sure Mr. Kelley would know whether there’s any truth to it. I don’t want to spread any unfounded rumors.

So PYCM is married to Caroline Morey but his sister is also Caroline?

Troy_Stark · August 8, 2021, 12:36am

Can anyone provide a guide and rough quality ranking as to the Colin white Burgundy producers? Marc Colin, PYCM, Phillipe Colin, Bruno Colin, and now I see Joseph Colin? All similar styles, all good? Or very different? Obviously PYCM is the most celebrated, are the others all in a lower league entirely?

IMO, you can’t really go wrong with ANY of the Colin family wines. Yes, there are stylistic difference, but all of these are cousins and siblings who grew up together.

There really are two main related branches today stemming from;

Michel & Marc; Brothers

Philippe and Bruno; sons of Michel
– Simon; Philippe’s son (The newest Colin to start a label. Worked as an intern in the WV with a good friend of mine.)

Pierre Yves, Joseph, Caroline, and Damien; Children of Marc Colin.

Pierre Yves is completely independent now, but it is my understanding the other three are all still involved with Domaine Marc Colin; Joseph makes the whites, Damien makes the reds, and Caroline acts as a sort of GM.

Joseph also makes his own wines, but the whites from Dom Marc Colin and from Joseph’s own label should be very similar. In fact, some friends I’ve spoken to suspect they may be identical in some cases (same wine bottled under different labels), but that is just speculation and I’m sure Mr. Kelley would know whether there’s any truth to it. I don’t want to spread any unfounded rumors.

So PYCM is married to Caroline Morey but his sister is also Caroline?

That is my understanding, which could definitely be wrong.