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#1 Post by Jim Anderson » August 4th, 2016, 12:14 pm

That's more than rumor from what I have heard. They apparently announced it at a dinner this week...but did not mention the name. Small and well known was the extent of it. Thought I would stir the pot and let the guessing begin.

I'm going with Biggio-Hamina.
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#2 Post by ky1em!ttskus » August 4th, 2016, 12:40 pm

Please not Biggio Hamina (but great for them if it is them!).

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#3 Post by Corey N. » August 4th, 2016, 12:50 pm

I imagine that there will be an announcement when the time is right. If Todd is the lucky winner, so to speak, good for him. I hope that KJ will allow him to continue crafting the yummy wines that I have grown so fond of.
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#4 Post by Jason T » August 4th, 2016, 12:59 pm

Is Belle Pente considered small and well known? Man I hope not.
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#5 Post by Jason T » August 4th, 2016, 1:01 pm

That said I reflexively cringe any time one of the big guys snaps up another winery but as has been discussed here a number of times there's probably no reason for that when it comes to KJ. My understanding is they are giving the wineries a lot of latitude and are providing capital and infrastructure the wineries have previously lacked.... Which could ultimately be a good thing.
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#6 Post by rfelthoven » August 4th, 2016, 1:05 pm

Rumor has it Todd is driving around a new Hummer with a "Trump 2016" sticker on the back. My money is on BH.
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#7 Post by Jim Anderson » August 4th, 2016, 1:22 pm

rfelthoven wrote:Rumor has it Todd is driving around a new Hummer with a "Trump 2016" sticker on the back. My money is on BH.
He was doing that two years ago.
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#8 Post by brigcampbell » August 4th, 2016, 1:59 pm

Beaux Freres - just to make it interesting.

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#9 Post by Jim Anderson » August 4th, 2016, 2:03 pm

brigcampbell wrote:Beaux Freres - just to make it interesting.
That's the spirit!
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#10 Post by Kirk.Grant » August 4th, 2016, 2:11 pm

Hopefully it's Domaine Serene...
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#11 Post by Scott Everson » August 4th, 2016, 2:42 pm

I thought you said Todd drives a white van with a sign on it that says Free Candy.

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#13 Post by Jim Anderson » August 4th, 2016, 2:48 pm

Scott Everson wrote:I thought you said Todd drives a white van with a sign on it that says Free Candy.

Winderlea
He HAS a white van with that sign on it. I don't think it moves around. It might not even have an engine.
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#14 Post by John Davis » August 4th, 2016, 2:57 pm

Scott Everson wrote:I thought you said Todd drives a white van with a sign on it that says Free Candy.

Winderlea
Winderlea, really? We were just out there in April and quite a great visit with them. They seemed very happy but I guess if someone backs a truck of money at your back door.... The owners (Bill & Donna) were great as were the the wines!

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#15 Post by M Officer » August 4th, 2016, 3:14 pm

brigcampbell wrote:Beaux Freres - just to make it interesting.
Good guess.
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#16 Post by jbray23 » August 4th, 2016, 3:41 pm

M Officer wrote:
brigcampbell wrote:Beaux Freres - just to make it interesting.
Good guess.
This would make sense seeing Mike's got his own vineyard and the Roy family has their own domaine now...
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#17 Post by Jim Anderson » August 4th, 2016, 3:43 pm

jbray23 wrote:
M Officer wrote:
brigcampbell wrote:Beaux Freres - just to make it interesting.
Good guess.
This would make sense seeing Mike's got his own vineyard and the Roy family has their own domaine now...
While this was an entertaining guess I would read zero into it. Not seeing that scenario playing out. At all.
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#18 Post by jbray23 » August 4th, 2016, 4:33 pm

You never know.... Parker pulls the plug?

I doubt this would ever happen but Parker is a little cray cray so never say never...
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#19 Post by Anthony Lombardi » August 4th, 2016, 4:48 pm

Shoppers of Trader Joe's & Total Wine are going to have more Oregon Pinot to choose from!

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#20 Post by R Roberts » August 4th, 2016, 5:22 pm

Does it have an animal in its name?
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#21 Post by PeterH » August 4th, 2016, 7:24 pm

If this is a guessing game, by process of elimination any winery owned by someone who chose winery ownership as an optional lifestyle choice has to be eliminated. Sorry, no new owners for Domaine Serene et. al.
Equally improbable are wineries that cater to a limited set, i.e. AFWE.
More likely will be wineries that aim at the Informed Masses, a contradictory term I made up to describe those who know enough to think they know a lot, as opposed to most of us who know enough to realize that we really don't know much at all.
Another criteria for KJ seems to be instant name recognition, plus critical acceptance by the mass wine press. Add to that, reasonably aggressive expansion attempts, and a size that puts a strain on capital to make the leap to national distribution.
I'd say as a joke, Patricia Green, only because Jim brought it up. More likely Lange, or maybe Raptor Ridge.

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#22 Post by Paul Cunningham » August 4th, 2016, 9:09 pm

The bigger the winery, the better the chances. Owning vineyards a major plus, if not a requirement.

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#23 Post by PrestonS » August 4th, 2016, 9:55 pm

I'm going with Rex Hill/A to Z
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#24 Post by Matthew Brown » August 4th, 2016, 10:00 pm

Jim Anderson wrote:
rfelthoven wrote:Rumor has it Todd is driving around a new Hummer with a "Trump 2016" sticker on the back. My money is on BH.
He was doing that two years ago.
This. Last time he was in VA slinging wine he was making no-drip pouring spouts out of $100 bills.
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#25 Post by Todd Hamina » August 5th, 2016, 1:31 am

Wow, deliver wine all day and then see Steel Pulse open for Ziggy Marley and this is what happens.

By the way the van does have an engine. Check for yourself about the candy.
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#26 Post by John Davis » August 5th, 2016, 4:50 am

PrestonS wrote:I'm going with Rex Hill/A to Z
Rex Hill = good guess.

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#27 Post by J a y H a c k » August 5th, 2016, 5:39 am

Todd Hamina wrote:Wow, deliver wine all day and then see Steel Pulse open for Ziggy Marley and this is what happens.

By the way the van does have an engine. Check for yourself about the candy.
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#28 Post by Richard T r i m p i » August 5th, 2016, 6:11 am

Wild ass guess: Ken Wright Cellars

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#29 Post by David White » August 5th, 2016, 6:25 am

Patricia Green Cellars?!? [snort.gif]
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#30 Post by Brian Tuite » August 5th, 2016, 6:35 am

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#31 Post by Jim Anderson » August 5th, 2016, 6:39 am

David White wrote:Patricia Green Cellars?!? [snort.gif]
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"Signs point to NO"

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#32 Post by Todd Hamina » August 5th, 2016, 7:10 am

J a y H a c k wrote:
Todd Hamina wrote:Wow, deliver wine all day and then see Steel Pulse open for Ziggy Marley and this is what happens.

By the way the van does have an engine. Check for yourself about the candy.
I want to know about the Trump bumper sticker. [swearing.gif]
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#33 Post by Michael Sterling » August 5th, 2016, 7:39 am

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#34 Post by Travis Fantz » August 5th, 2016, 7:50 am

If you hadn't used the word small, my guess would have been Shea. It would have to be that kind of money for that size.

So, my guess is Antica Terra or Bergstrom.
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#35 Post by MitchTallan » August 5th, 2016, 7:56 am

Maybe Adam Lee knows.
Rex Hill was my very first thought too. But I would not call Rex Hill small.
My guess is Brooks.

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#36 Post by Mike DiSalvo » August 5th, 2016, 8:40 am

How about Cameron?
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#37 Post by M Officer » August 5th, 2016, 8:48 am

Jim Anderson wrote:While this was an entertaining guess I would read zero into it. Not seeing that scenario playing out. At all.
It was a good guess for reasons I shouldn't divulge but you are correct, it is not who KJ just purchased.
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#38 Post by MitchTallan » August 5th, 2016, 9:11 am

Mike DiSalvo wrote:How about Cameron?
Was this intended to be a joke?
If not, you one crazy dude Mike. If you are proven correct, I will pay for lunch at your beloved Kihachi.
I don't know crap when it comes to the inside workings of Oregon pinot producers, but Cameron is the last winery that I think would sell out to KJ.

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#39 Post by Mike DiSalvo » August 5th, 2016, 10:44 am

MitchTallan wrote:
Mike DiSalvo wrote:How about Cameron?
Was this intended to be a joke?
If not, you one crazy dude Mike. If you are proven correct, I will pay for lunch at your beloved Kihachi.
I don't know crap when it comes to the inside workings of Oregon pinot producers, but Cameron is the last winery that I think would sell out to KJ.
Exactly! Cameron would be the last winery anyone would think of!

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#40 Post by Scott Tallman » August 5th, 2016, 11:04 am

Argyle?
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#41 Post by PeterH » August 5th, 2016, 12:50 pm

Like Rex Hill/A-Z, I don't think of Argyle as being small. Maybe small on the K-J scale, but not in WV proportions.

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#42 Post by A Yambor » August 5th, 2016, 1:09 pm

Wild guess:

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#43 Post by Nolan E » August 5th, 2016, 1:15 pm

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#44 Post by John Osburn » August 5th, 2016, 1:32 pm

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#45 Post by Dennis Kanagie » August 5th, 2016, 1:35 pm

A Yambor wrote:Wild guess:

Lemelson
Sounds as likely as any so I'll second your wild guess.
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#46 Post by Dennis Kanagie » August 5th, 2016, 1:42 pm

Dennis Kanagie wrote:
A Yambor wrote:Wild guess:

Lemelson
Sounds as likely as any so I'll second your wild guess.
Strike this post - I no longer wish to vote Lemelson.

It's Penner Ash for sure.
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#47 Post by Steven Miller » August 5th, 2016, 1:50 pm

Dennis Kanagie wrote:
Dennis Kanagie wrote:
A Yambor wrote:Wild guess:

Lemelson
Sounds as likely as any so I'll second your wild guess.
Strike this post - I no longer wish to vote Lemelson.

It's Penner Ash for sure.
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#48 Post by Dennis Kanagie » August 5th, 2016, 1:56 pm

Steven Miller wrote:
Dennis Kanagie wrote: It's Penner Ash for sure.
That happened earlier this year. We're now talking about who's next.
Nuts. Did KJ finalize the Copain purchase yet?
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#49 Post by Marcus Goodfellow » August 5th, 2016, 2:14 pm

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brigcampbell wrote:Beaux Freres - just to make it interesting.
Good guess.
This would make sense seeing Mike's got his own vineyard and the Roy family has their own domaine now...
That's a sharp observation. I am guessing that Beaux Freres does pretty well though without KJ and Mike is very attached to the old vines at Beaux Freres.
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#50 Post by Greg Malcolm » August 5th, 2016, 2:17 pm

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