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#1 Post by D. HEIN » July 16th, 2020, 1:27 pm

William recently wrote an article, published in THE WINE ADVOCATE, which was simply, outstanding!

In his article, UP FROM THE CELLAR 28, William reviews mature, aged wines (French) in addition to more recent releases, in the last 20 to 25 years, as well as issues related thereto, such as acquisition, serving and authenticity.

In my tiny world of wine, William has reached the pinnacle of wine evaluation!

Congratulations, well done!

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#2 Post by Neal.Mollen » July 16th, 2020, 2:03 pm

I love William's contributions here. They are almost enough to convince me to rejoin. Almost. I just don't buy enough current-release wine to make it worthwhile. If I were younger . . . .
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#3 Post by Howard Cooper » July 16th, 2020, 2:28 pm

What percentage of the articles in the Wine Advocate are written by William?
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#4 Post by Sean S y d n e y » July 16th, 2020, 2:30 pm

Howard Cooper wrote:
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What percentage of the articles in the Wine Advocate are written by William?
I did chuckle when I received this week's newsletter and literally all of it was from William (fine by me, he's the reason I subscribe!)
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#5 Post by Howard Cooper » July 16th, 2020, 2:33 pm

Sean S y d n e y wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 2:30 pm
Howard Cooper wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 2:28 pm
What percentage of the articles in the Wine Advocate are written by William?
I did chuckle when I received this week's newsletter and literally all of it was from William (fine by me, he's the reason I subscribe!)
Is that typical - he is the only reason I would even think about subscribing.
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#6 Post by Josh Grossman » July 16th, 2020, 2:38 pm

William's earned my trust and esteem. I love his prose and priorities. I (let's just pretend) to joke that I would join his wine club.

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#7 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 16th, 2020, 2:46 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 2:03 pm
I love William's contributions here. They are almost enough to convince me to rejoin. Almost. I just don't buy enough current-release wine to make it worthwhile. If I were younger . . . .
This. Entirely.
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#8 Post by roybehr » July 16th, 2020, 2:48 pm

I agree. The other WA reviewers are not much different than a random cellartracker review.

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#9 Post by David Glasser » July 16th, 2020, 2:59 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 2:46 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 2:03 pm
I love William's contributions here. They are almost enough to convince me to rejoin. Almost. I just don't buy enough current-release wine to make it worthwhile. If I were younger . . . .
This. Entirely.
Took the words right off of my keyboard.

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#10 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 16th, 2020, 3:00 pm

David Glasser wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 2:59 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 2:46 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 2:03 pm
I love William's contributions here. They are almost enough to convince me to rejoin. Almost. I just don't buy enough current-release wine to make it worthwhile. If I were younger . . . .
This. Entirely.
Took the words right off of my keyboard.
Sadly, that just means the three of us amigos are Viejo!
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#11 Post by Dennis Borczon » July 16th, 2020, 3:07 pm

He pretty much IS the wine advocate. Can anyone take Lisa PB seriously? Just the baggage from the sale of the WA and her role in being the new head honcho was enough to make many of us bail out of our subscription. William projects an image of enthusiasm, professional curiosity, and a pretty formidable intellect without appearing arrogant or cocky. You could say many of the same things about Antonio G, but he seems to be a little too smug at times about his ability (which is considerable). Perhaps I am the only one who feels this way, but....

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#12 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 16th, 2020, 3:15 pm

Actually, if William took over - and he should be the face of the new TWA - I would subscribe. His writing, his palate and the context in which he places his opinions, are spectacular. He ain’t too shabby of a winemaker, either. :-)
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#13 Post by Howard Cooper » July 16th, 2020, 3:17 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 3:15 pm
Actually, if William took over - and he should be the face of the new TWA - I would subscribe. His writing, his palate and the context in which he places his opinions, are spectacular. He ain’t too shabby of a winemaker, either. :-)
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#14 Post by AD Northup » July 16th, 2020, 3:18 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
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Actually, if William took over - and he should be the face of the new TWA - I would subscribe.
I subscribed through the Myriad free months offer a few months ago and plan to continue primarily based on William’s articles (it helps that he reviews Champagne and Burgundy) as well as his continued contributions here. He’s also been very generous in private correspondence/recommendations through Instagram, which is just another massive positive.
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#15 Post by Sean S y d n e y » July 16th, 2020, 3:18 pm

I will say that slagging William's colleagues is probably not the best way to show your appreciation for his work. Everyone's welcome to their opinion but it puts him in an impossible spot professionally.
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#16 Post by Greg K » July 16th, 2020, 3:29 pm

At first I thought this was going to be a thread calling William out for a duel!

I strongly agree with the sentiment of all the posters on this thread - William’s contributions to both his job and to this forum are terrific, and are one of the biggest reasons I’m a recent subscriber. He’s also a lovely chap in person over a glass of wine!
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#17 Post by J.Vizuete » July 16th, 2020, 3:36 pm

I'll happily pile on since I've been meaning to brag on him recently calling a 2014 Huet sec blinded without an ounce of context. I was very impressed.

William's keen intellect, indefatigable enthusiasm, broad historical knowledge, literary skill, generosity and personal warmth are a rare and wholly winsome combination. I happen to know he's a good father and husband as well.

You would be hard pressed to find someone with the passion and breadth of winemaking knowledge as this guy, who will certainly be a legend one day.
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#18 Post by alan weinberg » July 16th, 2020, 4:11 pm

and the bizarre thing is that all this amazing knowledge is packed into a 30 year old.

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#19 Post by Jim Stewart » July 16th, 2020, 4:18 pm

alan weinberg wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 4:11 pm
and the bizarre thing is that all this amazing knowledge is packed into a 30 year old.
I didn't know that and assumed otherwise (by more than a few years). That is amazing . . . but now I am not as comfortable relying on his judgement. pileon
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#20 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 16th, 2020, 4:26 pm

I didn’t know he was such a pup
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#21 Post by c fu » July 16th, 2020, 4:33 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 4:26 pm
I didn’t know he was such a pup
we 30 somethings have a lot to offer to the wine world ALfert, stop trying to age shame us
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#22 Post by Nick Christie » July 16th, 2020, 4:36 pm

c fu wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 4:33 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 4:26 pm
I didn’t know he was such a pup
we 30 somethings have a lot to offer to the wine world ALfert, stop trying to age shame us
What Fu said :)

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#23 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 16th, 2020, 4:37 pm

c fu wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 4:33 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 4:26 pm
I didn’t know he was such a pup
we 30 somethings have a lot to offer to the wine world ALfert, stop trying to age shame us

Haha, Fu so sensitive! [snort.gif]

Perhaps you and William should start something. Seriously.
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#24 Post by Jim Stewart » July 16th, 2020, 4:37 pm

Anybody else reminded of the Seinfeld episode where Elaine relies on Vincent for video recommendations ?
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#25 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 16th, 2020, 4:38 pm

Nick Christie wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 4:36 pm
c fu wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 4:33 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 4:26 pm
I didn’t know he was such a pup
we 30 somethings have a lot to offer to the wine world ALfert, stop trying to age shame us
What Fu said :)

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#26 Post by Nick Christie » July 16th, 2020, 4:39 pm

Seriously, though, I've been very, very encouraged/delighted/intrigued by William's participation here and his writings in general. I envy him greatly, but admire him more :).

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#27 Post by Nick Christie » July 16th, 2020, 4:45 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 4:38 pm
I wrongfully assumed you were a dude. I will now amend my ways!

My wife goes by Chris. [snort.gif]
I am still a dude! But I like bringing a little 'cute girl' energy to the party when allowed... I 'think' I'm still a ladies' size 8 in jeans, but admittedly, it's been awhile since college. Keeping one's figure is hard at 38. Not impossible, but hard.

My mind/thoughts are dark enough. Hanging on to whatever flirtatiousness I have left in this dark vessel is pretty vital.

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#28 Post by Kris Patten » July 16th, 2020, 4:51 pm

I can only pile on praise for William and his talent and accessability.

As for his colleagues, Luis and Mark (pains me to say) are pretty good content too.
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#29 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » July 16th, 2020, 5:07 pm

He is an insightful critic.

But why the shouting?
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#30 Post by Maxwell A. » July 16th, 2020, 5:08 pm

I too have found William's wine writing and advice top notch. It's incredibly valuable to have his contributions here and through other sources of social media. This is especially so because a good portion (probably a majority) of my cellar is Burgundy and Champagne. Being young myself (28), it's especially helpful to learn from those more experienced than I. I look forward to following William over the course of his career and wish him the best of luck!
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#31 Post by Dan Kravitz » July 16th, 2020, 5:15 pm

I agree that William Kelly is an excellent wine journalist.

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#32 Post by P@u1_M3nk3s » July 16th, 2020, 5:25 pm

Dan Kravitz wrote:
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I agree that William Kelly is an excellent wine journalist.

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#33 Post by Mike Evans » July 16th, 2020, 6:44 pm

roybehr wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 2:48 pm
I agree. The other WA reviewers are not much different than a random cellartracker review.
I strongly disagree with including Luis in that assessment.

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#34 Post by Sh@n A » July 16th, 2020, 6:49 pm

Fantastic guy who can communicate information much better than other wine writers. I subscribed only for his notes (and wish they had CT integration). And the sweater absolutely plays
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#35 Post by Mike Evans » July 16th, 2020, 6:52 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 2:03 pm
I love William's contributions here. They are almost enough to convince me to rejoin. Almost. I just don't buy enough current-release wine to make it worthwhile. If I were younger . . . .
William’s contributions here and my appreciation for Luis’s work were enough to convince me to pay for a subscription. I need to stop buying in general, but between his notes on older wines that will help me work through my existing cellar and coverage of wines with shorter drinking horizons like Champagne, white Burgundy, and Beaujolais, I still expect to get my money’s worth.

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#37 Post by Marcu$ Stanley » July 16th, 2020, 7:21 pm

LOL William is going to be too embarrassed to show up in this thread, I can envision him blushing somewhere flirtysmile

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#38 Post by Robert M yers » July 16th, 2020, 7:36 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 4:37 pm
c fu wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 4:33 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 4:26 pm
I didn’t know he was such a pup
we 30 somethings have a lot to offer to the wine world ALfert, stop trying to age shame us

Haha, Fu so sensitive! [snort.gif]

Perhaps you and William should start something. Seriously.
If he (Fu) won’t taste wines Younger than him he’s going to have to bring on some TikTok(ers) to bring me in. :)

But seriously I agree with the praise, love the contributions and have considered rejoining but I have no interest in the old school remnants. I could get with the joining of a new super group though.
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#39 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 16th, 2020, 7:39 pm

Marcu$ Stanley wrote:
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LOL William is going to be too embarrassed to show up in this thread, I can envision him blushing somewhere flirtysmile

Humility is vastly over-rated. He went to Oxford. He’s like the Daniel Craig James Bond, only younger and more talented.

I’d cut myself a big hunkering piece of Black Forest Cake to pair with a chewy young Rollandized St Em, pop in a 50 Cent 8-track, then start carpet-bombing the Wine Spincter forum under some stupid pseudonym. For the record, I swear I’ve never done that.
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#40 Post by B. Buzzini » July 16th, 2020, 7:44 pm

He makes killa Ca Chenin Blanc too!
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#41 Post by Br1an Th0rne » July 16th, 2020, 7:45 pm

William is the primary reason why I decided to re-subscribe to WA. That fact that he is an active participant here, so knowledgeable but humble and respectful...

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#42 Post by Marshall Manning » July 16th, 2020, 8:41 pm

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July 16th, 2020, 7:39 pm

Humility is vastly over-rated. He went to Oxford. He’s like the Daniel Craig James Bond, only younger and more talented.

I’d cut myself a big hunkering piece of Black Forest Cake to pair with a chewy young Rollandized St Em, pop in a 50 Cent 8-track, then start carpet-bombing the Wine Spincter forum under some stupid pseudonym. For the record, I swear I’ve never done that.
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#43 Post by Josh Grossman » July 16th, 2020, 8:51 pm

I once saw William Kelley chug an entire bottle of 1988 Armand Rousseau Chambertin out of a quart glass, and then regurgitate into the mouths wine aficionados so it had the perfect amount of aeration. Like civet coffee, the best wine is only at its apex after passing through William Kelley!

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#44 Post by Herwig Janssen » July 17th, 2020, 12:15 am

You should all Know his real name is William D Hein Kelley

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#45 Post by dcornutt » July 17th, 2020, 2:25 am

A really brilliant young man. We are lucky to be able to have access to him here also. Not many critics make such incredibly detailed posts here.
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#46 Post by Howard Cooper » July 17th, 2020, 3:42 am

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
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I didn’t know he was such a pup
How different is this from Robert Parker when he started the Wine Advocate. Not much I bet.
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#47 Post by Howard Cooper » July 17th, 2020, 3:46 am

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
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Humility is vastly over-rated. He went to Oxford. He’s like the Daniel Craig James Bond, only younger and more talented.
His name is Kelley. William Kelley! He likes his Burgundy shaken, not stirred.

When is going to start posting about the Kelley Women?????
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#48 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 17th, 2020, 4:40 am

Howard Cooper wrote:
July 17th, 2020, 3:42 am
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
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I didn’t know he was such a pup
How different is this from Robert Parker when he started the Wine Advocate. Not much I bet.
Parker. Craig. R. Kelley. They got nothing on William. We may have to start calling him Bill.

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#49 Post by Jim Stewart » July 17th, 2020, 4:46 am

Howard Cooper wrote:
July 17th, 2020, 3:46 am
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July 16th, 2020, 7:39 pm



Humility is vastly over-rated. He went to Oxford. He’s like the Daniel Craig James Bond, only younger and more talented.
His name is Kelley. William Kelley! He likes his Burgundy shaken, not stirred.

When is going to start posting about the Kelley Women?????
Howard I imagine him saying " . . . neither shaken nor stirred" ?
Age merely shows what children we remain.
-Goethe

But I've just noticed that my mind is asleep.
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Re: WILLIAM KELLEY!

#50 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 17th, 2020, 4:47 am

Marshall Manning wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 8:41 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 7:39 pm

Humility is vastly over-rated. He went to Oxford. He’s like the Daniel Craig James Bond, only younger and more talented.

I’d cut myself a big hunkering piece of Black Forest Cake to pair with a chewy young Rollandized St Em, pop in a 50 Cent 8-track, then start carpet-bombing the Wine Spincter forum under some stupid pseudonym. For the record, I swear I’ve never done that.
Ha! Post of the week, at least, if not longer. I hope to share a bottle with you someday, Robert.

Although I think Bond went to Cambridge, at least in the Fleming books.
Ha! Let’s pull some corks.

Cambridge is for chumps. I went there. Granted, it was a semester law program and all I did was travel, drink, punt, and, well, . . . .

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