'09 Le Bon Pasteur.....here we go

[Carl_Steefel]

Alfert and I are going to have a good old fashion taste off against Jeff…may the best taster win!!..and if for some reason that doesn’t happen then we will be happy to congratulate Jeff!

Jeff does have a great site though fo sho!

Did you have the 1990 Bon Pasteur and did you consider that in the same vein? Even in the 2000 was starting to be on the ripe side, and maybe also more generic than the 1990, but I don’t think they are all the same.

Carl… I’ve had Bon Pasteur back to 1959. Almost every wine has changed since 1990. That’s 30 years ago. I really liked 90 Bon Pasteur. I think the 09 is a better wine.

Interesting, will need to try one. I guess I was suggesting that I found it difficult to believe that anyone (not just Jeff Leve) would really like the 1990. Not going to outshine a Petrus or a Trotanoy, but also not (at the time at least) in the category of a wine that only those like ripe and modern wines would go for (I think I fall into another category)…

[Philip_Ente]

The word on the streets of Catusseau is that with the decline of Parker, Rolland’s influence has really plummeted.
I am far more impressed as a consultant and more interesting guy in Stephane Derenoncourt.

Which Dererencourt wines specifically?

My impression is that he is an incredibly nice guy, but based on a tasting which featured all the wines he consulted for, there was incredible sameness to them, whether it was a Bordeaux or a wine from Virginia.

I don’t seek them out or have a lot of experience with them. His own Domaine de L’a used to be an excellent QPR

I just like -Dererencourt- very bright and classy guy.

[Gary_Ahearn]

Just finished a glass. A bit tight and harsh upon opening. But with air, I have to say that I found Jeff Leve’s last tasting note and score (94) on Cellartracker spot on.

[Marc_Frontario]

Just finished a glass. A bit tight and harsh upon opening. But with air, I have to say that I found Jeff Leve’s last tasting note and score (94) on Cellartracker spot on.

The world is officially ending

[Rudi_Finkler]

No, it is the new reality.

[Marc_Frontario]

No, it is the new reality.

I’m going to drown my pain over some Sociando

[Jeff_Leve]

No, it is the new reality.

I’m going to drown my pain over some Sociando

Marc… I sent you a PM offering to buy all the nasty Bon Pasteur 2009 you have. I did not hear back. Let me know…

[Marc_Frontario]

Sorry …I think I was less busy prior to the virus and I have to find the damn key to my cooler! Once this is accomplished it is yours. Might be a week or 2

Its just one bottle sir, happy that it is going to a good home

[Jeff_Leve]

Sorry …I think I was less busy prior to the virus and I have to find the damn key to my cooler! Once this is accomplished it is yours. Might be a week or 2

Its just one bottle sir, happy that it is going to a good home

You only have 1 bottle? Oh, I was thinking you had a cellar full, or at least a case. I will happily trade you something for it, or buy it. No hurry.

[Jeff_Leve]

Just finished a glass. A bit tight and harsh upon opening. But with air, I have to say that I found Jeff Leve’s last tasting note and score (94) on Cellartracker spot on.

You Sir, have good taste! I cannot say the same for those two weenies who seem to know each other however

[Marc_Frontario]

Just finished a glass. A bit tight and harsh upon opening. But with air, I have to say that I found Jeff Leve’s last tasting note and score (94) on Cellartracker spot on.

You Sir, have good taste! I cannot say the same for those two weenies who seem to know each other however

WTF? Someone come to my rescue!! Don’t let Leve do me like this!!!

[Marc_Frontario]

I actually heard Rolland put a hit out on me!!

[Mark_Golodetz]

Sorry but I think it’s silly to say that. The number of multi century family held vineyards is a tiny handful or two.

i am assuming you are talking about top tier wines. Plenty of long held family estates in lesser areas.

[Julian_Marshall]

I’ve been really enjoying this thread - thanks Marc for taking one for the team! Whether Le Bon Pasteur is any good or not is always down to personal preference.

Jeff is right in that because of French inheritance tax, which takes into account the value of the land based on other transactions, it’s increasingly hard for families to maintain their ownership, but there are still quite a few, even in the top tier: Barton, all the various Lurtons, Delon, Cruse, you could add Castéja, Quié, then Audoy, Duboscq, I would include Cuvelier, also Merlaut, not forgetting the most obvious of all - Rothschild (both branches!) - then all the others - Bernard, Perrin, without even starting on the Right Bank. Whether company ownership is better or not is a tough one - sometimes it is and I can think of at least one of the families mentioned who I would be happy to see sell up! It doesn’t always result in better management but I think the best example of one that has is Lagrange - Suntory have done an excellent job without resorting to inflated prices.

[Craig_G]

Just finished a glass. A bit tight and harsh upon opening. But with air, I have to say that I found Jeff Leve’s last tasting note and score (94) on Cellartracker spot on.

You Sir, have good taste! I cannot say the same for those two weenies who seem to know each other however

WTF? Someone come to my rescue!! Don’t let Leve do me like this!!!

It’s just a bit of Levety.

[Julian_Marshall]

Good one, Craig! Are you suggesting that Jeff has taken Leve of his senses?
Or as Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes sang - “Don’t Leve me this way”!

[Robert.A.Jr]

I thought that was the Communards?

[Julian_Marshall]

Nah, that was the second cover version after Thelma Houston!!

They’re all celebrating having sold all their remaining bottles of Le Bon Pasteur 2009 to Jeff - who you can spot behind the bar counting the bottles:

Don't Leave Me This Way (ORIGINAL) by Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes, Teddy Pendergrass 1975

[Robert.A.Jr]

Yea I think the Communards version was more of a lovefest for this liquid chocolate sex concoction!

[Julian_Marshall]

I suppose you could say that the Communards Rollandized the song?

Are you sure you don’t mean Levefest?