Austria Tips?

One of the best days of our Austria trip was spent seeing Eisreisenwelt and Hohenwerfen. They’re both near the town of Werfen, which is an easy drive from either Salzburg or Hallstatt.

Eisreisenwelt is this cave way up high in the mountains that’s fills with ice formations each year. You take a cable car up to the gift shop/entrance, and then you hike up the mountain along a mostly paved path from there to get to the cave. Then you get a guided tour through the cave. Amazing experience. http://www.eisriesenwelt.at/

Hohenwerfen is a fortress. It’s only so-so for a castle to tour, but they have this ridiculously fun falconry show that takes place there. Think bald eagles and the like swooping right over your head. They don’t do the falconry show very often, so you’ll have to plan ahead to be there on the right day. Event calendar | Burg Hohenwerfen

Flight departs tomorrow evening, excitement is building.

The warden masterfully planned this road trip, I’ll report back.

Wow, place is awesome.

Heading up the tram to the ice caves above hallstatt.

Just off the main square (up and to the left if your back is to the lake) is a pretty solid restaurant. Specialty is local fish from the lake.

Brauhaus. Ate there! Cool place. We’re staying at the hotel in the square, gruener baum. Nice place.

Salt mines today…

One thing not to miss when in Austria …a ride or two on one of the Sommerrodelbahns. Great fun.

Great beer garden in Salzburg, beer from the barrel.

You do look like you’re having much fun, Brig—will look forward to chatting with you about it if we both make it to FallTacular.

Keep up the good “work”.

Mike

Brig, can you post a summary of your trip? My wife and I are heading to Austria in three weeks, and I’ve been looking forward to your report.

Thanks,
Jay

First, let me start with our travel style. We move. We try and see anything and everything when we travel, there’s no down time. Hotels aren’t that important, other than a good breakfast included, since we’re never there. We don’t eat at high end restaurants, we eat very well, but they tend to be more casual and “local joints”. My wife likes using Rick Steves as a starting point and then researching from there. The criteria for picking things to do is weighted based on “cuteness, historical importance, adventure, and cuteness” Cuteness is in there twice… We had the trip divided into 4 areas, Vienna, Wachau, Halstatt/Zell, and Salzburg. We rented a car on the last day in Vienna as we headed out and drove the rest returning the car in Salzburg, I did about 750 miles. Austria is the most beautiful country in the world.

Vienna – this is like a mini Paris. A little smaller, a little less hectic, a little more casual. We started here two nights at the Beethoven Hotel, I recommend it. It’s located 100 yards from the Nachmarket and walking distance to many of the main attractions. We ate a dinner and a lunch in the Nachmarket, very good place for food with lots of restaurants, food stands/markets, sightseeing, and cocktails. I had a fantastic doner (Turkish gyro) there. There’s a number of wine bars here and on the main street which are popular.

There’s a very large pedestrian only area in central Vienna, Rick Steves has very good recommendations for a “walking tour” but highlights are the high end shops, St. Stephens and St. Peters, and the Hapsburg Palace. Within the palace you can see the Lipizzan Stallions do a show, we didn’t for time reasons but everyone says it’s cool. You can see videos on youtube. Definitely visit the Treasury which is where they store all the valuables from the past. There are a couple of museums in the area and the Opera house which are worth visiting. All of this was walking distance from our hotel, but we’ll put in 5 miles on foot without thinking twice. We took a train to the Shonburg summer palace which was easy travelling, that place is decent and the garden is enormous, fun just cruising around for a couple hours.
Wachau – this place is awesome. We stayed in Durnstein which is VERY tiny and road trips from there. But you could stay in Spitz or Melk just as easy. There’s a couple days of activities here which include driving the loop up and down the other side of the Danube river going from Kerms, Durnstein, Spitz, Melk, Aggstein castle ruins, and a couple other little random stops like the St Michael church on the river. In Melk there’s a huge St. Benedictine monastery worth visiting. All of these towns have nice restaurants, neat little shops, and sights to see like churches, monasteries, and ruins.

Hallstat – off the hook beautiful. Tiny, cute, charming, old world, blah, blah, blah. Stayed here for a couple of nights at Grunerbaum hotel on the lake, highly recommend. Visit the salt mine which is right in town and the ice cave and five fingers up at the top of the Dachstein mountains. Awesome.

Zell am zee – stayed here for two nights as base camp. The town is nice but slightly disappointing after Hallstat. This is really a main area for the ski crowd since the Kitzsteinhorn and Kitzbuhel are all a short drive away. From here we drove to Krimmel Falls and hiked up to the top and then drove a loop up and over the Grossglockner High Alpine Road, stunning.

Salzburg – we stayed in the new side but just 200 yards from the old town. Worked perfect. Old town is amazing, great food, sights, big castle, augustiner brau, and a little famous schnapps joint. We walked the entire old town in a day and a half. It’s Mozarts birth place and many parts of Sound of Music were filmed here ( I never saw the movie… doh!) Get the Salzburg Card, buy at your hotel, which gets you access to transportation and all the sights you’ll want to see.

Bring the questions…

I finally found the time to post our experience in Austria. Here goes…

My wife, 7-month old son, and I traveled to Austria and Bavaria during the last week of November. We went hoping to fit in some wine tasting along the way. Obviously, adjustments had to be made traveling with an infant, but he’s actually able to hang just about anywhere that isn’t “romantic candlelit dinner” ambiance. Alas, we ran into other problems on the wine front, although our trip was still wonderful. Here’s our report:

a few things we did not adequately take into account before arriving. First, because most of Europe is actually quite north in terms of latitude, it gets dark early in the late fall and winter, especially when you are in the eastern part of Western Europe. It was pretty dark by 4 pm. This ended up dramatically changing our ordinary calculus of time spent in big cities versus villages and the countryside. Second, car seats are designed differently in Europe, and many car seats made in America do not work in European cars. Hopefully any of you traveling with children in the future can learn from the minor fiasco we experienced, costing us most of a day and a few hundred dollars. Moving on…

Vienna. We arrived on a Saturday morning and dropped our bags off at the Hotel Rathaus --Wein & Design. Highly recommended even for non-wine lovers. We got a great room on the fourth floor, although the theme of our room (each room is dedicated to a different winery) was actually for a Schnapps specialist, which isn’t our thing. The hotel is in a nice location; on a side street, very quiet, but walkable to just about anywhere inside the ring. The first day we spend a chunk of time at the Nachstmarkt, which we highly recommend, especially if you are any kind of foodie. Even in winter, it was bustling and great selection of produce and food stuffs from all over the world. Great people watching too, and while I’m sure lots of tourists visit, it’s clearly filled with Viennese. In the afternoon, we went to the nearest location of Wein & Co., a very nice local chain of wine bars, also recommended. Afterwards, we went to a cafe and got warm drinks and pastries.

We quickly settled into a routine of leisurely sightseeing, mixing in a wine bar here and there, going to cafes, and just enjoying the city. We loved Vienna. We went to the Kunsthistorisches Museum, which was better than expected, and we checked out the Treasury and Chapel (to hear the Vienna Boys Choir) at Hofburg Palace, but we otherwise stuck mostly to walking around outside. We could have spent a week doing just that, easily. In order of preference, we enjoyed the following cafes: Cafe Landtmann (great hot chocolate, just the right atmosphere), Cafe Sperl, Demel (definitely touristy but our favorite pastries overall), Cafe Central, and Cafe Diglas (a bit overshadowed by the others). For food, we kept it low-key but loved Figlmuller for schnitzel and Hueriger Weininger (a 30 minute trip on the tram, but definitely worth it). Weininger had very nice wines as well. We tried a few other wine bars, but frankly thought that Wein & Co. did a great job.

One nice thing about being in Vienna in late November is that the Christmas Markets (Christkindlmarkts) are in full swing, but they seemed like they were probably less crazy than in December, once Advent has started. My wife loves the holiday season, and we were getting some flurries, so it was quite festive.

Overall, our short time in Vienna was a highlight of the trip. Would definitely go back.

Wachau Here’s where things took a left turn. The Wachau Valley is very beautiful, even in winter. However, it completely shuts down outside of Krems and Melk. Calling ahead 2 days earlier, we had already discovered that most of the wineries were pretty shut down with proprietors traveling or otherwise occupied. We thought we would just go and enjoy the towns and visiting wine bars and restaurants, but thought better of it when we arrived. I would estimate that 8 out of 10 hotels and inns close for the winter. Same with restaurants/gasthauses. Krems is ok but not really what you are looking for in terms of enjoying wine country. Once you get past Krems, the villages felt like ghost towns. None of the inns in Durnstein were open. We found an inn in Weisskirchen in the late afternoon, but we were the only guests checked in. All eating establishments in the village save one were already closed. We were able to do one wine tasting at Jamek (good, but we enjoy other producers more), but after walking out, we made the decision to cancel our room at the inn and drive straight to Salzburg.

Salzburg Highlight of the trip. It snowed about six inches the evening we arrived. Salzburg covered in snow is absolutely beautiful. After calling around about an hour before we arrived in town, we splurged and stayed at the Hotel Sacher, which gave us a pretty good last minute discount. We walked through the falling snow to get dinner at Die Weisse, which was fantastic. Great beer, great food, great vibe (local fun, not touristy). When we got back to the hotel, we ordered Sacher torts, cocktails, and hot chocolate as room service and felt like royalty. The next day, we did the Salzburg walking tour in Rick Steves’ guide, checked out the Christkindlmarket, drank some mulled wine, got lunch and Stiegls at Zum Wilden Mann (touristy but also great), went to a cafe for hot chocolate, and had a really inexpensive dinner with beers at Augustinerbrau Mulln, maybe my favorite beer hall in Germany or Austria. We were sad to leave the next morning, but grabbed some apfelstrudl to go.

Bavaria/Munich Our time in Germany mostly revolved around relatives, so we didn’t do all of the things we wanted to do. However, we did fit in a few things. The morning we left Salzburg, we drove straight to Neuschwanstein Castle. Touristy, but we thought it was definitely worth it, especially with almost a foot of freshly-fallen snow on the ground on a beautiful, crystal clear day. After linking up with relatives living in the suburbs, the next day, we saw some of the sights in downtown Munich. We hit up several beer halls (Der Pschorr and Augustiner were probably our favorite, with Hofbrauhaus worth it but a madhouse), climbed to the top of city hall, and ate lots of wursts and pretzels. We also hit up one wine bar that I can’t remember the name of and enjoyed some glasses of Selbach-Oster spatlese. Munich is nice, but we didn’t find it nearly as interesting as Vienna or as beautiful as Salzburg. Then, on the day after Thanksgiving, we visited Dachau. We were not very familiar with its unique history. We found the visit very meaningful and wished we had more time to spend there.

Conclusions We had a wonderful time. Contrary to all the guidebooks, Vienna and Salzburg are great places to visit in the late November if you don’t mind some drizzle (or enjoy warming up in cafes with pastries and hot chocolate and/or mulled wine). The Christmas Markets are in full swing, but it feels mostly like locals, and the regular attractions are pretty calm. As far as wine goes, if you stick to the cities, Austria is great for wine bars, and you can find just about any Austrian wine served by the glass if you look around a bit. However, do not plan to do a lot of wine tasting in Austrian wine country in the winter. The days are short, many of the wineries are not accepting visitors, and its difficult to find either lodging or food. When we were on our flight back to the USA, we promised ourselves that we would return to Austrian wine country in the summer to see it at its best.

A fine and informative report! Interested that you stayed at the Hotel Rathaus–Wein & Design in Vienna; we liked that one a lot.

Nice report. In my opinion, Vienna is a vastly underrated city. Itching to return in the fall.

Jay,

Bummer about Durnstein and Wachau in general. But it sounds like the trip was still amazing.

Austria is top 5 vacations for me. Stunning is the word I use to describe it.

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We’re doing our 30th anniversary there next summer (2015)

Hello Everyone…

Leaving tomorrow for a AMA Riverboat cruise on the Danube. Any suggestions on local wineries, restaurants or wine shops during our stops in Melk, Durnstein or Krems…our day in Vienna is also wide open? I’ll have an empty Wine Check to fill up!!

Thank you in advance!
Tom

in Durnstein - http://www.domaene-wachau.at/en/distribution/cellar-door/

In Krems, these guys had a nice library of old wines - Welcome | Winzer Krems

In Vienna - http://www.heuriger-wieninger.at

In case you visit Domäne Wachau and they still have bottles of their experimental 1998 Chardonnay Doana I highly suggest you buy one. In Vienna we have enjoyed the Palmenhaus restaurant, which is in a former green house right next to the Hofburg. The food is quite decent and they have a really nice winelist.