Croatia: Wine, Touring Cities, and thoughts on Wine Criticism (ok, too damn long)

I just had the pleasure of traveling down the Adriatic coast of Croatia for the first time. Not a wine tour - a vacation. My interests were spending time with my good friends and traveling companions, learning local culture and history, seeing the sites, hearing Balkan voices. But from Istria to Dubrovnik the land was filled with vineyards. On a little side trip to Bosnia as well! I didn’t visit any wineries, but wine made fine company for dinners. And so for a week I sampled the local wine with the dishes it was made for.

Rovinj, Istria. Cute little seaside town, winding around a hill with the inevitable church and tower (here to Saint Euphemia). A tourist town, first of many we sampled. We climbed the tower one morning, and it offered 189 terror inducing narrow uneven steps with wide gaps between each, before a final ascent up a ladder. Part way up I nearly decided to quit, my fear whispering in my ear how even a little earthquake would make the stone collapse into rubble. I continued though. Pretty amazing views.

Dinner was seafood, fresh fish and large prawns. Elegant and tasty. Wine? Easy, seemed like a sizable list. But - all Croatian other than a few pointless and pointlessly expensive French options.

My usual suspects - RPWA and Vinous - offered zero articles about Croatian wine. Not a big surprise, perhaps. Croatia is the 32nd largest producer of wine (I later looked that up), exports nearly zero to the US. The reviewers have higher priorities, and rightly so. How was I supposed to separate the average from the great, understand the best producers, or common styles?

With a little waiterly advice we went for a Malvasia. Sharp, nicely balanced local white, reminded me of an aromatic Italian wine, with a bit more savory nose then, say, a Fiano, and with good body. Berserker failure, I didn’t capture the label. A good wine, a real wine, in the 89-90 range maybe.

Pula, just a bit down the coast, made for a wonderful day trip. The gorgeous Roman amphitheater was the highlight, though sipping coffee in front of the little Temple to Augustus and Roma was special. The Adriatic was a Roman lake for most of a millennium or more, and they made high quality wine here as well. Some of the best preserved Roman remains anywhere in the world.

More seafood for dinner, another modest Istrian white (Pošip), selected by a waiter.

When traveling in Italy, I have thousands of wine reviews at my disposal, covering nearly every region. Skimming a few articles I get a quick sense of the local grapes. styles, and producers. Sure, most of the top wines are nowhere to be found (they all seem to be exported to the UK, US, Germany, Belgium, etc.), but there’s plenty of info to help me make choices in restaurants.

Driving from Rovinj to Zadar, took about 6 hours. We stopped in Rijeka, then decided to take the incredibly scenic coastal route (including a long wait for a short ferry ride). We walked around Trsat Castle in Rijeka, and stopped in Senj for a break and walk. This part of the Dalmatian coast is beautiful in a rugged way, and very quiet - almost empty. The towns have minimal interest. I don’t think a lot of tourists (or anybody else) come this way, and understandably so. This is the backwater in between the known, the busy, the developed. Not even many vineyards. If you do pass this way, skip the pizza (though there isn’t much else on offer).

Sampling the wine for a week I wondered if there is any truly great Croatian wine. For a wanderer, a casual traveler, it is impossible to know. I couldn’t find any useful English language guides, so was at the mercy of whim, or whatever local restaurants happened to carry and push. It seems unlikely that the terroir was not hospitable to excellence. What makes great wines? Has expertise just moved elsewhere? Is it the critics and the feedback loops they create? Social consensus? Time and the money to refine, to perfect what terroir and local varieties have to offer? All great wines are crafted by experts, with their highly developed education, skills and knowledge. And an explicit agreement between winemaker, drinker, and critic about what are the characteristics of excellence.

Zadar is a nice town, an old town, with impressive medieval walls and interesting bits here and there. It’s also a tourist town, a little place with a lot of marinas, and crammed full of modern tourist shops and trinkets. The sunsets there were spectacular. But as a visitor I found the ratio of interesting historical areas to tourist schlock out of balance.

After two nights in Zadar we continued on, ever southward, to Split. A little detour to Krka National Park - pretty paths through waterfalls - but hideously overcrowded. Another zigzag to the seaport of Sibenik. Sort of the anti-Zadar, this town is a windy maze of narrow streets, extremely quiet and not yet overrun, with some attractive unpretentious restaurants. Wandering the cobble stone streets I really had the sense of how ancient towns grew at random up hillsides. It’s a sweet spot for lunch. Another fort - the Castello of St. Michael - with amazing views of river and sea and a surprising modern open air theatre. No concerts that day, sadly.

Split - or Spalato - is where the Croatian coast kicks it up a gear or three. It’s large (Croatia’s second biggest city) though the old town center is easily walkable. The historical buildings are astonishing, far beyond anything else we saw in Croatia. The Roman walls and remains of the Palace of Diocletian are awe inspiring. Both quantity and quality are as significant as any outside of Rome or Pompey. The entire old town is a delightful mix of medieval and renaissance buildings, for block after block, lovely but not quite in the league of places like Venice or Florence. It’s a feast for the eyes and mind. It’s also absolutely crawling with tourists, especially during the afternoon when the cruise ships disgorge their hordes. But I can put aside such concerns in the presence of such majestic depths of culture and history. Hard to frown when you can lean on a 3500 year old sphinx (I think Diocletian borrowed a few during a visit to the Nile) and sip the local wine.

The restaurants of Split also stepped up a notch. There are Michelin starred extravaganzas but we dined at the next tier down, offering excellent food without quite so much pomp. We had a delightful Dingač - the 2019 Vicelić. Probably the best wine of the trip, this red had real depth. Good floral aromatics in the nose, red fruited palate on the big and rich side. Could have used some more acid in the finish, but the bit of tannin was just fine with a rich meal.

Quite a few folks in Croatia commented that Dingač produced the best red wines in the country. Most restaurants carried just a few, and of course said theirs were the finest. Maybe. If western reviewers visit the area, they’ll likely start with this small region. The next night we tried a well regarded white wine - a ‘22 Grk from the producer Bire. This is a big rich white, with lemony, savory aromatics and a full body, though with fine balance. My favorite white of the trip, with a Malvasia close behind.

Detouring inland to Bosnia-Herzegovina, we made a one night visit to Mostar. Hard to go from magnificent Split to this little mountain town with its famous bridge. Mini culture shock. Mostar is an unusual city with its half Croatian Catholic/half Bosnian Moslem population. It’s a poor town in a remote spot. Bosnia is not yet an EU member, and the difference between it and Croatia is dramatic. The last 20 years have been kind to the Dalmatian coast, while Europe’s modernizing development has barely reached here. To a huge platter of grilled meats we paired a local Blatina. This was the 2018 Veteribus (old vine?) Blatina Barrique Crveno Suho. Adequate with the meats, but a fairly rustic red.

Dashing back down to the Croatian coast we ended our trip in Dubrovnik. Another masterclass in medieval walls and antique urban planning, this city merits its reputation as a beautiful place to wander. The Game of Thrones hype has brought in vast numbers of tourists, but on an early June day the town absorbed the multitudes handily. I adore this place. There are few cities with their entire defensive walls intact (or as intact as they could be with centuries of enemies battering them down, from the Ottoman Turks to the Serbs just 20 years ago). As capital of the independent kingdom of Ragusa from roughly 1600 to 1800, Dubrovnik had the third largest merchant fleet in the world (after the Dutch and Belgians), and has the maritime history and artifacts to show for it. It’s peak Croatian coast, with Michelin starred restaurants and prices to show for it.

For our last Croatian dinner we found a restaurant with an odd but tasty mix of Middle Eastern cuisines (nary a fish to be found on the menu) and I sampled the 2019 Stina Inspiration Plavac Mali to go with my veal kebabs. Plavac Mali (“little blue” in Croatian) is what we American upstarts call Zinfandel, and is its progenitor. This rich red had those spicy blackberries on the nose, but was more of a mid-weight red than most US Zins I’ve had. A tasty wine.

My wife asked me if I would be shopping for Croatian wines back in California, and was surprised to hear that I was doubtful. There’s the challenge of even finding the stuff, but none of the bottles I sampled were wow moments. Good wines, food friendly. But the wine culture of Croatia has a long way to go to compete for shelf space.

Or maybe I just didn’t have the good stuff. There is something to having the time and focus to visit 20 or 30 wineries in a region and try all their wines. Would be quite a bit of time and effort - almost like a job. But if anyone does it, I hope they write up their notes in detail, and score the wines relative to each other.

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Very similar to my last trip except we also did the Plitvice lakes as well (and started in Venice)

We’re doing almost the same trip again, except starting in Montenegro and Venice at the end.

I found the whites much better than the reds.

Any hotels you thought were great?

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Great report on Croatia.

I brought home 2 bottles of Bire Grk and Stina Vugava that I’m holding on to. Probably as good of a time as any to open them!

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This is a hard question - so much depends on your preferences and budget. For this trip we stayed in old city centers, so we could walk around and absorb as much of the flavor as possible. Very much limits your choices, but there were a good range of hotels that were comfortable. My favorite was Guest House 44 in Dubrovnik. Very comfortable and ultra modern, with an extremely good restaurant. I’d recommend that place easily.

A great report! Really looking forward to my trip to Split later this summer! (And not at all TL;DR for me!)

However, this is incorrect. Plavac Mali is not Zinfandel, nor its progenitor.

Tribidrag (or Crljenak Kaštelanski) is the variety that first traveled to southern Italy, becoming Primitivo in the process (both Tribidrag and Primitivo refer to how it ripens early), and from Italy it traveled to California, becoming the variety we know as Zinfandel today. There is some Tribidrag still grown in Croatia, but not nearly as much as Plavac Mali.

Plavac Mali is the offspring of Tribidrag (aka. Zinfandel) and Dobričić, which is a lighter, more delicate variety. To me, Plavac Mali has often felt like a Zinfandel with an added “cooler-climate character”, ie. it sports a bit more acidity and freshness (and quite a bit more tannins, too) than a similarly made Zinfandel. Most Plavac Malis come from very hot parts of Croatia, so the wines don’t really show any of those characteristics, but I think it still helps the grapes to produce better, more balanced wines in those hot climates.

Btw, Plavac Mali is also the variety from which the famous Dingač and Postup wines are made from!

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Sounds like a great trip Richard!

You made quite a few interesting observations both for wines and the trip as well.

For the trip itself, I think you managed to visit a lot of nice places on the mainland, and I love that you made it to Mostar with the observation of the culture. The first time I visited Bosnia it was a chock to realize how different it was there compared to Croatia or Slovenia. I had it more down to the long term Ottoman influence (could be wrong).

Related to dining… Over the years a number of more fancy high quality restaurants became more abundant. However what I personally find more exciting is the more traditional authentic restaurants that you often can find a bit off the beaten path. They might do their own fishing, raising sheep, veggies, etc. The food is often prepared over fire… Simplistic beauty and farm to table being the normal.

After having visited the great sites on the coast, slowing down the pace on an island of two quite often becomes the next steps.

Related to the wines, below is the best source I have found over the years:

https://vinopija.com/dojmovi/

You will need to use translation function but Nenad who writes the blog provides the best insight to Croatia wines in many price ranges and have a good palate.

One of the challenges with good Croatian wines is that many of the best are produced in very small quantities, hence are very difficult to find outside of Croatia, and many times can be very difficult to find inside Croatia as well (!). Depending on where you are and buy the wines the transports might not have been the best, etc. Some producers can be quite uneven in quality depending on vintage. And at least to me many of the easier to find wineries can be quite good but honestly not necessarily that exciting.

I used to follow Croatian wines much closer a few years ago. As for recommendations - depending on who you talk with the expectation of what is good or best might be tricky… Why? At least to my experience the trend of what’s good is sometimes quite out of sync in Croatia :smiley: The normal not cool was at least until recently the homemade wines, which many produced themselves or knew someone who did. This is Natural wines before that was cool and a term - BUT most times these were clean wines! Depending on the vintage the yields might have been too high if nature was giving. Hence till not too long (and longer in many other places) barrique which picked up later were associate with high quality in peoples mind. So depending on who gives you the advise…

Some wineries you can keep an eye out for are:

Istria:

  • Coronica (Gran Malvazija, Gran Teran, Grabar)
  • Clai used to be good but don’t have any experience with the new winemaker (amber wines and clean natural wines)

Dalmatia - Plavac:

  • Milos for Plavac mali (higher acidity) / Don’t eat with sweet residual in the cavities or spices. Don’t overlook the rose, it’s excellent and a serious wine (much more than a summer fun wine).
  • Kiridžija Dingac

(Babic)

  • While not easy to find good examples, at its best it’s a very good red wine

Dalmatia - white:

  • Here my reliable options are hard to find, but perhaps Bibich’s wines (also reasonably available)
  • Grk from Lumbarda in general but difficult to find
  • Posip indeed (a dalmatian variety, not from Istria) - no good recs

Continental Croatia:

  • Tomac
  • Enjingi: while a large volume producer (as is Krauthaker) the quality of the Venje Bjelo Kasna Berba Barrique white, when the alcohol is not too high, is a very good wine.
  • Krauthaker: The “Grasevina Mitrovac” is a Grasevina I like quite a bit.

From Hvar I have enjoyed the wines made by Jo Ahearne (an amber wine or two?).

I am sure there’s a lot more bubbling and developing since I focused wider, and Nenad is probably the best way to find out (see link above)

I don’t know how well this work in terms of quality of services in US but have worked well for me in Europe and saw that they found a way to work in US as well:

https://www.wineandmore.com/wines/croatia

Happy explorations!

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Glad you liked the report, and thanks for this detail. Funny but many folks in Croatia said that Plavac Mali is the origin of Zinfandel, and I never checked it. I don’t think I saw any Tribidrag though. Curious.

I heard that too, when I was in Dubrovnik some 9 years ago. Thought people either didn’t know better, or then were just trying to sell their wines with a better-known variety name, no matter if their facts really were straight.

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Zin / Primitivo is the parent of Plavac Mali. Details in this Grgich thread.

Carol jumps in with details regarding Tribidrag here

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Research indicates Zinfandel did not come to the U.S. via Italy but from cuttings taken from the Imperial Gardens of Schoenbrunn in Vienna (when Croatia and Austria were all part of the Hungarian Empire). It first arrived to Long Island and was grown as a hot house table grape in New England and then came to California with horticulturists from New England during the Gold Rush.

If you can find a copy of the book Zinfandel: A History of a Grape and Its Wine by Charles Sullivan, I highly recommend it.

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Indeed, now that you mention it, I remember reading this somewhere! I guess that might also explain the name - most likely the garden must’ve had also some Zierfandler growing there and somebody must’ve mixed the grape variety names in the process. At least that sounds like the most plausible explanation why the name Zinfandel is so similar to a variety as relatively obscure as Zierfandler.

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This is a helpful thread as the leader of my life has determined this destination will be the next big trip we take next year. To follow.

Lots of good stuff over in the Travel forum

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Maybe a stupid question but was Hungary really ruling Austria then?

Seems like spanish wine is about 3x better than croatian :wink:

The Habsburg were ruling in the 1800’s. Until, of course, WWI

Short answer, no. The Hungarians were pretty strong in the 1200-1300s, but they were eventually overrun by the Ottomans. From 1400 to 1700, Hungary was not the safest place to be, as the Ottomans would periodically come through and slaughter or enslave everyone in the Carpathian Basin. Austria was a much safe place to be. For a lot of history, Hungary looked toward Vienna.

That’s what I thought as well, thanks.

Apologies for the mistake. I should have said the Austrian Empire of which the Kingdom of Hungary (which I believe included present day Croatia at the time) was an important part of until 1918.

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Grk and Posip. Drink white from the islands near Dubrovnik. The food is amazing. The wines are nice but not world class to me. I can live without the reds. FWIW.

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