Germany 2024 Vintage

Florian Lauer just dropped the first vintage report I have seen. And it has the coolest chart that classifies vintages from 2009 - 2024. Keep in mind the chart is for the Saar.

I tasted at Julian Haart, Melsheimer and one other small domain in December and loved what I tasted.

I will add other vintage reports to this thread.

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Thanks Robert. I was just yesterday trying to find vintage commentary here on recent vintages. Since we are buying less, I am paying less attention, but then find myself out of the loop. I wish we had an easy such thread for 2022 and 2023 as well!

Im sure you know that Mosel Fine Wines posts a short summary of how the previous nine vintages are doing ā€˜currently’ as part of their 10 year retrospective each year.

I have all the back issues if anyone wants one.

I focus on the micro not the macro though. There will be some great 24s though, in a racy style.

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Thanks, Russell. I had forgotten that. I don’t read it as devotedly as I used to, and if I am busy it sometimes get filed away, but I am pretty sure I have all the back issues and will look.

We have one for 2023

In the Mosel I love 2021! A true high acid geek vintage. I don’t like 2022 and it makes sense that in Florian’s chart he has it close to 2018. I love 2023, I call it a high acid vintage for everyone whereas 2021 is extreme for the freaks!

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Thank you - that’s a very helpful down-and-dirty summary. We bought very little (for us) 2022 as well, only Keller, a few cases of Willi Schaefer and a few of Schafer Frohlich.

Interesting for me re: your thoughts on 23ers (though very much agree on 22/18), as I’ve found them to feel a little ā€˜soft’ - even from producers who typically have a pretty live-wire style.

Heard some words regarding 2024: Won’t be a lot of wine. There was maybe some less-than-diligent vineyard work (where maybe there was a ā€˜giving up’ feeling) and those wines will probably show it. There were some folks who remained diligent and put it in the tough work, and those wines will likely very much show that (like, excellent/thriller-style - as Russell mentions above, ā€˜racy’).

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Thanks for sharing Robert!

It’s a very nice and thoughtful and interesting producer report (with graphs, data points and context), incl. the reflection that ā€œThe most beautiful flavours thrive in the shadeā€.

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Very cool report from Lauer. I didn’t realize how much of an outlier 2023 was for the Saar in terms of the sunshine : rain ratio. Very excited for 2024 if its anything like 21!

Whats a nicely done report. Thanks, Robert.

Thanks for this. 2021 stands out among recent vintages and looking forward to tasting something else in that general direction. I was worried 2024 would be more difficult, but great winemakers have a way of producing great wines.

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ā€œThe alcohol levels of many casks are 1 to 1.5% lower than in previous years, due to a favorable
fermentation process.ā€

This is fantastic! :star_struck:
Going to love 2024 (if I can get some).

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I tasted lots and talked to many producers on a Mosel trip last week.

2024 looks like it will be a mixed bag. Quantities are mostly down. Some areas 50% and some areas more than that. Frost and mildew were huge problems.

I don’t think there will be much Spatlese+ produced in the Mosel or Saar - more lean and acidic wines. Some growers said that fruit quality was still good, clean, and concentrated while others questioned how anyone made it out with clean fruit. Most people were pessimistic about the vintage and the market - I think there was a sense that the breaking point is coming for many wineries.

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Thank Steven! Welcome! Would you mind sharing some of the producers you visited for context.

Thanks Robert! I tasted some 24s from Hofgut Falkenstein, Weiser-Künstler, and Vollenweider. I also visited with Lauer, Martin Müllen, Stein, and Philip Lardot at their estates and chatted briefly with Immich-Batterieberg, Melsheimer, and Staffelter Hof.

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That is a fantastic group of winemakers.

Definitely. And there will be some great wines from '24! Especially if you like acid.

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A number of growers actually gave up on the vintage and decided to produce no or little wine.

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I can’t find his 2023 report on the web. If you have that and could post it, I’d love to see it. Thanks in advance.

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