people like bad wine

[J_Singleton]

@M A T T H A R T L E Y

@brigcampbell

As Peter T. says in his signature.

FIL takes us to dinner for my birthday, my choice of the two nicest restaurants in town. I pick the one with BYOB and no corkage. We brought two sentimental wines but decent. The restaurant is EXPENSIVE.

Guy at the take next to us has a magnum of Woodbridge. it was all I could do to not take a picture.

So one has to drink expensive wine in an expensive restaurant?

Assuming there is a corkage fee, it doesn’t make much sense to pay more for corkage than the cost of the bottle.

[brigcampbell]

I just thought it was funny a guy drops about $200 on a dinner and drinks Woodbridge.

no more no less.

[CFu]

What’d you open brig?

[thomasP]

@Beau Carufel

@kylemittskus

@Beau Carufel

Maybe the wine is bad, to you, but delicious to him. Woodbridge isn’t a game changer but it’s competently made, good quality wine. Besides, what’s the definition of “bad” anyways, with regard to wine?

Haven’t you used “bad wine” in your tasting notes?

Why ask the question when you know the answer? Of course I have, for wines I consider bad. Which, for me, is lack of typicity, glaring flaws, lack of balance, brett (sometimes), and a few other things. In a somewhat ironic twist, the Woodbridge line, while cheap and perhaps boring, is at least made without flaws and the wines do register at the bottom end of typicity.

Perfect answer, Beau. Most wine drinkers don’t know the difference between preference and flaw.

[Craig_G]

@Chris Seiber

Y’all may not know Brig, but he’s the least snobby guy of anyone here at WB.

Not anymore.

[CFu]

@thomasP

@Beau Carufel

@kylemittskus

Why ask the question when you know the answer? Of course I have, for wines I consider bad. Which, for me, is lack of typicity, glaring flaws, lack of balance, brett (sometimes), and a few other things. In a somewhat ironic twist, the Woodbridge line, while cheap and perhaps boring, is at least made without flaws and the wines do register at the bottom end of typicity.

Perfect answer, Beau. Most wine drinkers don’t know the difference between preference and flaw.

“lack of balance” is an opinion and preference. One person’s balance is another person’s imbalance.

[Roberto_Rogness]

So is the amount of fruit, brett, oak, alcohol, acid, etc…

[brigcampbell]

@C Fu

What’d you open brig?

Giacosa

Both about $30 but sentimental gifts I gave to my FIL when he came to visit in California. We had tasted the wines here and he liked them so I stuffed a bottle of each into his luggage for the trip back to NJ.

• 2010 Bruno Giacosa Barbera d’Alba - Italy, Piedmont, Alba, Barbera d’Alba (9/10/2014)
  Good bottle of wine. Attack is dark fruit, currant but quickly progresses to bright cherry. A bit guilty of being fruit forward but with a rustic suede finish, a hint of old world. Medium plus acidity so should be age worthy. (89 pts.)
• 2007 Foxen 7200 Volpino - USA, California, Central Coast, Santa Ynez Valley (9/10/2014)
  A little muted aromas. Mild cherry flavor profile and some leather. Enjoyable but lacking the wow factor of previous bottles. Still worth aging the last bottle for a few more years to see what happens. (88 pts.)

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[Corey_N]

FIFY

@brigcampbell

Both about $30 but sentimental gifts I gave to my FIL when he came to visit in California. We had tasted the wines here and he liked them so I stuffed a bottle of each into his luggage for the trip back to NJ.

Fortunately, my FIL didn’t open his luggage before he left as I meant the wines to be a surprise for when he returned home. Unfortunately, my FIL wasn’t going to check any luggage and was detained by a TSA agent when he tried to get through security.

Fortunately, it’s not illegal to mistakenly keep liquids in your bags. Unfortunately, since my FIL didn’t know about the wine he started arguing with the TSA and ended up with a tour of the airport brig (the irony wasn’t lost on me).

Fortunately, the TSA released my FIL and didn’t press charges. Unfortunately, the delay was enough to make him miss his flight.

Fortunately, there was another flight leaving that evening, so he was able to catch the redeye home. Unfortunately, changing flights last minute cost him an additional $700.

Fortunately, the redeye was on time and he was able to get some sleep on the flight. Unfortunately, it was too late to call for a ride, so he had to walk to the taxi stand on the other side of the airport to get a cab.

Fortunately, there was no wait for a cab. Unfortunately, my FIL has a bad back and though it was only two bottles of wine, the extra weight in his suitcase was just enough to cause him to slip a disk, which in turn caused his sciatica to act up.

Fortunately, the damage done to his back was not permanent. Unfortunately, fixing his back meant a dozen visits to the chiropractor and two trips to his primary care physician.

Fortunately, his physician was able to ease his pain by prescribing him Vicodin. Unfortunately, my FIL became addicted to painkillers.

Fortunately, when he was in rehab, he had a chance meeting with Brett Favre and they became the best of friends. Unfortunately, the GREEN BAY PACKERS SUCK!

PS
The wines were both corked.

[M_A_T_T_H_A_R_T_L_E_Y]

@J. Singleton

@M A T T H A R T L E Y

@brigcampbell

As Peter T. says in his signature.

FIL takes us to dinner for my birthday, my choice of the two nicest restaurants in town. I pick the one with BYOB and no corkage. We brought two sentimental wines but decent. The restaurant is EXPENSIVE.

Guy at the take next to us has a magnum of Woodbridge. it was all I could do to not take a picture.

So one has to drink expensive wine in an expensive restaurant?

Assuming there is a corkage fee, it doesn’t make much sense to pay more for corkage than the cost of the bottle.

Highlighted the key part there…

[danupdike]

I’ve seen Yellow Tail a couple of times at no-corkage BYOB’s which is probably smart. It would probably be $30 if it were on the list.

[thomasP]

@C Fu

“lack of balance” is an opinion and preference. One person’s balance is another person’s imbalance.

I agree. I amend my comment to include only the part about glaring flaws, provided they are actual and not perceived flaws.

[Tom_Wheltle]

@John Morris

@Marlene Rossman

Woodbridge actually has magnums?

Does Woodbridge have magnums?! I survived on the stuff in magnums in law school, when it still carried the Mondavi name.

I haven’t had it in decades, but it sounds like it’s worth a retry. It was very decent in its early year-- very decent.

Going farther back, we went through cases of “Bob White” and “Bob Red” (The “RM in a circle” logo?) during and after college, albeit no “en magnum”. It was pretty tasty and it was cheap enough when you needed a bottle of red to braise the sausages…what a wonderful world!

[Chris_Blum]

Pleasantly surprised that there is such a sizable “Coalition of the Swilling” on WB.

[dsGriswold]

I gave up telling people how much a bottle costs, especially when TW is around. I get those are you nuts looks. “We get the best $15 bottle, we could have 2 or 3 for what you paid!” And these people are serious drinkers.

[e_chin]

@dsGriswold

“We get the best $15 bottle, we could have 2 or 3 for what you paid!” And these people are serious drinkers.

Now who’s the foolish one?