Poker and Pinot: TN's on a dozen 2007 California Pinot Noirs

It was Tom’s turn to host poker and he put together a blind line-up of 2007 “mail order Pinot Noirs” for us to taste through, with the idea of tasting this same line-up some number of years from now to see how the results might change. He served the wines in different order for different people and named each blind bottle after a state. In life imitates art fashion, my two favorites were Vermont and Maine—can’t argue with that! The notes are in the order I tasted the wines—other people drank these in different orders, so I’ve also noted the state name given the wine for those who were there and would like to add their thoughts.

2007 Kosta Browne Pinot Noir Kanzler Vineyard Sonoma Coast. Pennsylvania: The very first wine I tried was one of the most intense, but at this early stage it was actually kind of a nice jolt. The aromatic profile is deeply sweet with its core of cherry syrup, dark mixed berry, creamy blueberry yogurt and bubble gum, later joined by some tar oil, dark earth and wildflower notes. In the mouth, it is thick and large-framed, with a huge hit of oak leading the way for round, luscious flavors of dark cherry, cocoa and autumn spices. But there is no real difficulty from tannin and the overall profile (despite a little hit of alcohol on the finish) never feels anything but giving and plush. Going against the grain of the group, I imagine, I had this ranked as my #3 wine of the afternoon.

2007 Copain Pinot Noir Kiser “En Bas” Vineyard Anderson Valley. New Jersey: This wine could not be more different. The bouquet is light and lilting, featuring soft floral notes to go with sandalwood and some sweet cherry fruit with a little bit of a confectionary tone. It does deepen a bit as it sits in the glass and takes on air, but for the most part stays gentle and airy. In the mouth, it is extremely mouthwatering with an acidic burst that runs all the way through the wine’s voyage across the palate. It feels crunchy, with crisp berry and cranapple flavors that is sharp-edged but not austere. It is tangy in the extreme, with a light to medium-bodied framework and I could see it doing very well at the table with food. My #4 wine.

2007 A.P. Vin Pinot Noir Rosella’s Vineyard Santa Lucia Highlands. Rhode Island: This one has a core of weedy, semi-baked fruit in the black cherry and black raspberry spectrum on the nose, with something sort of like sundried tomato hanging around, too. It does gain more and more complexity the longer one stays with it, folding in more earthen elements and mushroom types of notes. On the palate, the first thing I note is overt alcohol that gives the wine a youthful, tough character. Below that, however, one gets good flavors of dark cherry and raspberry fruit and some gentle barrel spices. It turns rough again, however, on the finish—as strong menthol and rougher wood notes find their way back into the mix. For me, this is drinking far too young and a bit disjointed all around and I would advise holding off.

2007 St. Innocent Pinot Noir Shea Vineyard Willamette Valley. Florida: Wow, what a divisive wine this was on this day. Something like half the room had this as their wine of the day by a mile, while nearly the entire other half had it among their least favorite of the day. I find the nose to be heavy-bottomed and very primary—with some straightforward aromas of blueberry and fireplace embers. In the mouth, it is full of alcohol and blueberry fruit and not a whole lot else going on. I find there to be some drying acidity and plenty of tannin and dark smoke on the end. It doesn’t display much nuance or elegance, just a dense, packed-in palate feeling that needs time to unwind. Right now, it is a dormant bore to my taste. I have to admit being shocked at the reveal, as I normally really like St. Innocent at just about any stage (though Shea is not always one of my favorites) and associate it with more nuance than this particular monolith. But perhaps it will emerge for our next tasting down the road a few years?? I admit my curiosity is high. An interesting ringer!

2007 Red Car Pinot Noir Trolley Car Sonoma Coast. Michigan: There is a bit of birch and sassafras on the nose of this wine to go along with aromas of sweet briery berries, crunchy leaves and pine sap that taken together surely represent one of the more individualistic bouquets of the day. In the mouth, it is more overtly forward and fruity, with a soft velvety mouthfeel. It is warming and rounded, only turning a bit ticklish on the finish with some light tannins and alcohol. The cherry flavors are carried along by a juicy acidity, but the alcohol does begin to butt into the mid-palate after awhile. There are good component parts here, though, and I enjoyed it. My #5 wine.

2007 Michael Pozzan Winery Pinot Noir Annabella Special Selection Carneros. California: I find the nose to be a bit heavy, with aromas of caramel, cranberry sauce, kirsch, dry earth and oak the most notable. In the mouth, it is big-fruited, but the oak is very intrusive. It is chewy-textured and has a lot of spice and displays a large degree of heat. It feels out of sorts and a bit over-done.

2007 Sea Smoke Pinot Noir Southing Santa Rita Hills. Nevada: CORKED.

2007 Benovia Pinot Noir Bella Una Russian River Valley. New Hampshire: There is a nice nose here of pomegranate, cherry and deep kirsch that feels cool and masculine but not at all chunky or heavy—just serious, sinewed and structured. I like it a lot, especially as a minor key of sweeter blue fruit begins to well up with time. In the mouth, it is much more obvious, with a burn of heat and a significant presence of oak. It is full-bodied, with a nice core of sweet black and blue berry fruit that is luscious and begins over time to start winning the battle against the alcohol and barrel influences. I find myself coming around more and more on this one the longer I stay with it and the more integrated it becomes.

2007 Rivers-Marie Pinot Noir Occidental Vineyard Sonoma Coast. Vermont: I dig the nose of this wine a lot. It features nice aromas of cool cherry fruit, classy earth and a bit of road tar. It has a nice tangy edge to it and feels well-constructed and focused. It continues with the nice tangy feel in the mouth, with plenty of lifted cherry and raspberry fruit flowing along beautifully across the entire palate. The wine shows a lot of personality and presence—delivering a big mouthful of flavor that is really attractive and a pleasure to drink. This was my #1 WOTN.

2007 Loring Wine Company Pinot Noir Aubaine Vineyard Arroyo Grande Valley. Massachusetts: There are a lot of cool smoke, creosote, earth, pine pitch and dense black cherry aromatics to this wine. It is pretty nice, but also a bit tightly-packed and taut at this point. In the mouth, it is really creamy-textured, but immediately tannic and a bit tough. It displays plenty of body, no heat or jamminess, just too much in the way of tannin and overt oak at the moment. I see this as getting better down the road.

2007 Kanzler Pinot Noir Sonoma Coast. Connecticut: I find the nose on this pinot to be a bit unusual, with aromas of peach juice, cooked cherries and ashes tightening up instead of expanding with air. In the mouth, it features a lot of stem, smoke, and rhubarb sorts of notes in a chewy, full-bodied package. It is not really a style that I like that much, but I do have to say the alcohol seems well-controlled and the tannins are well-integrated. It stays dense and full all the way through the mouth, and delivers a solid dose of flavor. I hope it finds more nuance with a bit more bottle age.

2007 Anthill Farms Pinot Noir Peters Vineyard Sonoma Coast. Maine: This wine features lots of pure red fruit on the nose, with creamy cherry and cranberry aromas riding atop some mysterious and weedy earth tones and forest notes. It shows a bit tight at times, but then it will open up again and give a glimpse of that good funk and that pure fruit. In the mouth, it is feels milky and layered, but also has some nice top notes of strawberries and raspberries. Some late spices and a shot of acidity give the finish a bit of a confused feel, but everything else about this wine is fine-tuned and in very good balance. The mid-palate is especially nice and fanned out, with a really pleasing mouthfeel and good freshness all around. I like this a good deal and only see it getting better. My #2 WOTN.

2007 Siduri Pinot Noir Clos Pepe Vineyard Santa Rita Hills. Dakotas: I believe this was a late entry and so everybody came to this last in the line-up. For me, the nose initially is a bit heavy with blue fruits, but over time it starts to pull in a very pretty vein of lilac florality and some other notes that really give the wine an inviting character. In the mouth, it is fairly full-bodied and viscous, but not at all warm or especially sweet. Instead, the abundant blue fruit feels cool and pure, accented by black smoke and tea. The solidly-built acidic spine and the obviously structured tannins should let this age nicely.

And then afterwards, a little palate pick-me-up:

2002 Château du Cros Loupiac. The nose of this sweet wine is gentle and airy—with lilting aromas of dried pineapple and apricot, light botrytis, toasted nuts and a faint whiff of petrol. It is similar in the mouth—lighter-bodied, silky and pretty, without a whole lot of density or unctuosity. Instead, it is light-footed with its dried tropical fruit flavors and very gentle sweetness levels. It has no hard edges, but delivers a pretty good punch of solid flavor on a lighter frame.


-Michael

WOW - great notes! Sounds like poker night was stellar!

Was this the order in which you tasted the wines as well? Strange that you started out with the big bang on the Kosta Browne. Otherwise, I love to see that the Rivers Marie and Anthill came in #1/#2 for you.

If the AP Vin was mildly intriguing for you and the crew tasting, I’d recommend August West Rosella’s as a good change up for Rosella’s fruit.

Again, great notes, thanks for posting.

Thanks, Lance.

The notes were in the order I drank the wines. Every person was assigned a different order, so it is hard to say exactly how much impact serving order had on all of this. I do have to say it was pretty informative to have the first two wines tasted represent such extremes!

I’ll have to get the final group voting from Tom and append to my post, as I think there was a lot of variability.

-Michael

P.S. I am sad to admit that I have never had an August West wine–I really want to try a few and will look to see if I can start with your recommendation of Rosella’s.

Nice work Michael.

Glad you liked the 07 RM Occidental, I still have yet to pop one from my stash. Bu is such a Sea Smoke slut, I bet he tried to like the southing even though it was corked [wink.gif]

Very fitting that the Sea Smoke was named ‘Nevada’ as that’s where my dad (the owner of SS) lives part of the year and where I grew up. Too bad it was corked. If it was bought from the winery, be sure to contact them for a replacement.

I really like Augest West pinots… definitely give them a try.

Michael well done!

I have to say, although some wines were tasted in weird order - it was sort of fun that we were all tasting them in different orders.

I don’t know where he got it, but I know the Sea Smoke was Gerry’s contribution.

Figured I would throw my notes into the thread - Michael and I often agree, but not this time! The group was all over the map on preferences, so all opinions stated are definitely mine, not the consensus of the group.

Michael Pozza Annabella Special Selection – Tight tense acid, dark black fruit and some spices on the nose. A little tart cherry and cranberry on the palate. Nice solid pinot – one of my favorites of the tasting.

Seasmoke Southing – Badly corked.

Benovia Bella Una - Sweet, heavily oaked – lots of black cherry and a whiff of cola on the nose. Kind of young and painfully tart cranberry fruit on the palate. Some more bottle age required to really evaluate.

Rivers Marie Occidental – Nice pinot funk on the nose – lots of underbrush and dark cherry. Very disjointed on the palate – incredibly sweet attack, but a weird bitterness on the finish. Based on how promising the nose is, I think this may knit together with another few years in the bottle.

Loring Aubaine – Sweet apple cider and blackberry compote on the nose – liquid sweet blackberry jam on the palate. Just over the top sweet for my taste.

Kanzler Estate – Very sweet nose. Maybe because we are getting close to Easter, “Candied Peeps” is what came to mind. A little sweet for my taste on the palate as well, but enough acidity to keep it pretty nice.

Anthill Farms Peters - Sweet tarts gone bad. Weird sour sweet flavor on the attack. With some vigorous swirling, began to settle down and actually showed some nice strucutre and acidity to go with sweet cola fruit. Again, maybe too young, but I am skeptical on thsi one.

Kosta Browne Kanzler – Brown sugar on the nose, brown sugar on the palate – also really, really sweet and hard for me to get past.

Copain En Bas Kiser – Beautiful balance of dark fruit and peppery earth on the nose – very promising nose. A little unbalanced on the palate, tart, acidic and oak predominated with the fruit from the nose not really showing through. One of my favorites, but more based on potential down the road then drinking pleasure now.

A.P. Vin Rosella’s – Very nice sweet cola and sweet vanilla oak perfume. Again, a little sweet on the palate for my tastes, but some definite structure and acidity there which may knit together. Another potential winner with a little more time for the oak to integrate.

St. Innocent Shea Vineyard – My WOTN. Funky nose of sun baked earth, underbrush, dried flowers with just a hint of brett. Smoky strawberries on what is a very tight and structured palate – this needs some time to unwind, but is going to be very very good in a few years.

Red Car Trolley Car – Nice earthy nose, but just over ripe and sweet on the palate – like pure cherry coke.

Siduri Clos Pepe – Very red fruited- bing cherry and strawberry on the nose and palate. Very pleasant to drink but I wasn’t wowed (could be its position as wine # 12). When it was revealed to be Clos Pepe, I was surprised as I usually expect some earthier notes from that particular vineyard.

Jud, I really enjoyed reading your write-up–thanks a lot for adding your notes here. Indeed, we were in disagreement on several wines (esp. on Michael Pozzan and St Innocent that you liked but I didn’t and Rivers-Marie, Anthill Farm, KB and Red Car that I liked but you didn’t). We had some agreement around A.P. Vin and Copain, at least!

I really do need to get the group voting from Tom to add to the mix here, as I agree there was virtually NO concensus whatsoever from what I heard anectdotally around the room.

-Michael

Okay, Mike. You got me motivated to at least post the group’s votes on the wines. No names were attached to the ballots because the goal was simply to get a sense of what the group thought. People wrote down different ways they ranked wines so I decided to post exactly what people put on their ballots. But first here is what I was trying to accomplish at this tasting:

  • I wanted to take of group of popular California Pinot Noirs and get an impression of them while they are young and then to take the exact lineup and taste them again a few years down the road to see how the group’s opinions of them change as the wines age. Which wines will age better relatively to the others? How different will the next rankings be?
  • I wanted the individuals in the group to taste them in different order because I always believed that one of the most important factors when evaluating wines is the effect on the palate as one tastes wines. Therefore I had everyone taste the wines in different order so that on average no wine had an advantage or disadvantage based on the order it was tasted.

All wines were tasted blind, pop and pour.

Taster #1:

  1. Florida - St. Innocent Shea
  2. Maine - Anthill Farms Peter’s
  3. New Hampshire - Benovia Bella Una

Taster #2:

  1. Maine - Anthill Farms Peter’s
  2. Florida - St. Innocent Shea
  3. New Jersey - Copain en bas

Taster #3:

  1. Florida - St. Innocent Shea
  2. Rhode Island - A.P. Vin Rosellas
  3. California - Pozzan Annabella
  4. New Hampshire - Benovia Bella Una
  5. Pennsylvania - Kosta Browne Kanzler
  6. Michigan - Red Car Trolley

Taster #4:

  1. Vermont - Rivers-Marie Occidental
  2. Maine - Anthill Farms Peters
  3. New Hampshire - Benovia Bella Una
  4. Florida - St. Innocent Shea
  5. Massachusetts - Loring Aubaine
  6. Rhode Island - A.P. Vin Rosellas
  7. New Jersey - Copain en bas
  8. California - Pozzan Annabella
  9. Michigan - Red Car Trolley
  10. Pennsylvania - Kosta Browne Kanzler

Taster #5:

  1. Vermont - Rivers-Marie Occidental
  2. Massachusetts - Loring Aubaine
  3. Florida - St. Innocent Shea
  4. California - Pozzan Annabella
  5. Dakotas - Siduri Clos Pepe
  6. Connecticutt - Kanzler Kanzler

Taster #6:

  1. New Hampshire - Benovia Bella Una
  2. Michigan - Red Car Trolley
  3. Dakotas - Siduri Clos Pepe
  4. Rhode Island - A.P. Vin Rosellas

Taster #7:

  1. Rhode Island - A.P. Vin Rosellas
  2. Connecticutt - Kanzler Kanzler
  3. Maine - Anthill Farms Peters
  4. Florida - St. Innocent Shea
  5. Michigan - Red Car Trolley
  6. Massachusetts - Loring Aubaine
  7. New Jerseay - Copain en bas
  8. Dakotas - Siduri Clos Pepe

Taster #8

  1. Vermont - Rivers-Marie Occidental
  2. Maine - Anthill Farms Peters
  3. Pennsylvania - Kosta Browne Kanzler
  4. New Jersey - Copain en bas
  5. Michigan - Red Car Trolley
  6. Dakotas - Siduri Clos Pepe
  7. New Hampshire - Benovia Bella Una
  8. Connecticutt - Kanzler Kanzler
  9. Massachusetts - Loring Aubaine
  10. Rhode Island - A.P. Vin Rosellas
  11. California - Pozzan Annabella
  12. Florida - St. Innocent Shea
  13. Nevada - Sea Smoke Southing

Taster #9:

  1. Tie New Hampshire - Benovia Bella Una
  2. Tie California - Pozzan Annabella
  3. Tie Pennsylvania - Kosta Browne Kanzler
  4. Tie New Jersey - Copain en bas
  5. Tie Florida - St. Innocent Shea
  6. Tie Vermont - Rivers-Marie Occidental
  7. Tie Connecticutt - Kanzler Kanzler
  8. Tie Maine - Anthill Farms Peters
  9. Tie Michigan - Red Car Trolley
  10. Tie Massachusetts - Loring Aubaine
  11. Tie Rhode Island - A.P. Vin Rosellas
  12. Tie Nevada - Sea Smoke Southing
    Did not get to taste Dakotas - Siduri Clos Pepe

Taster #10:

  1. Florida - St. Innocent Shea
  2. Maine - Anthill Farms Peters
  3. Vermont - Rivers-Marie Occidental

Taster #11:

  1. Anthill Farms Peters
  2. Kosta Browne Kanzler
  3. Benovia Bella Una

After looking at these ballots can anyone come up with the group’s concensus? Very difficult. But it seems to me that certain wines were mentioned near the top more often than others:

  • Anthill Farms Peters (Michael, I converted you!! )
  • Rivers-Marie Occidental
  • St. Innocent Shea

So there you have it. I don’t think we’ve ever had such disagreement on which wines were the favorites. Overall, the rankings were all over the place. One wine that should be mentioned is the Pozzan Annabella. This wine is found in the $12-$15 range based on where you live but it still got mentioned a couple of times near the top.

I’ll try to post my notes soon if I find time.

That tasting was really enjoyable and educational. Thanks Tom.

I think it really underlines how important the order of tasting is in your judgment of wine, the way we were all over the map in our preferences. We tend to forget how subjective wine tasting is (even with the same person!) deadhorse

Karl

Another thing I just noticed. Every wine in the lineup, with the exception of the corked Sea Smoke, was in somebody’s top 3. This has to be the first time it’s ever happened.

Tyler, that description of me is inaccurate. Take out the “Sea Smoke” in the sentence and then you’re correct. [grin.gif]

Tom, thanks for this tasting. I agree that it borders on bizarre that everyone was at least in someone’s top three. I’d love to see a future host do it in this manner again to see if it was the wines, the system, etc. Part of me is thinking that subconsciously we must be influenced by others around us tasting the same wines. Whereas with your method, we were all tasting different wines at different times. It’s be interesting to see.

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