RAYAS + MARGAUX-tastings

Over the next days I´m going to do two comprehensive tastings for my international tasting group:
Margaux AOC
and
Château RAYAS

As a preview it might be interesting to look at the map below which shows the 15 different parcels the wine(s) of Château Rayas come from.

Rayas has four groups of parcels:

  • Le Cœur (red) - eight parcels
  • Le Couchant (blue) - two parcels
  • Le Levant (green, partially white grapes) - three parcels
  • Pignan (yellow) - two parcels
    The cellar - indicated Château Rayas SCEA – and the old Château are marked purple.

This information came directly from Emmanuel Reynaud last summer, but since he did it in a minute I cannot guarantee that it´s 100% accurate, but it should be certainly close.

Usually the four groups of vineyards are vinified and elevated seperately - and it is also possible to taste them seperately in (the very old) barrels - together with the Fonsalette cuvées.
The Grand Vin du Château Rayas is a cuvee of the three parts Le Cœur, Le Couchant and Le Levant.
Parts of these three vineyards can be declassified into Pignan, but never any Pignan gets into Château Rayas.
All red wine is 100% Grenache.
The white Rayas is 50:50 Grenache blanc and Clairette … and the white grapes are (mostly?) in the northern “green” sector of Le Levant.

BTW: Rayas is Spanish and means “stripe” like “forest aisle” … or “forest clearing” …

For the Margaux tasting I plan to open a bottle each of the 21 classified Château, different vintages.

If I find the time and there is any interest I might write and post some tasting notes afterwards.

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Great map. I’d certainly be interested in a Rayas retrospective. Sold Rayas, maybe I should say took orders/requests for Rayas, for years while representing Martine’s Wines in US. They always offered great value back in the early 2000s, from CdP to Pignan to Fonsalette to Domaine des Tours and it was always fun to introduce customers to new items from the family.

Thanks for sharing.

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I still have bottles of 2004 Rayas from you. Man that is good wine!

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Thanks Gerhard, very interesting, looking for your notes!

We drank that 2005 with Scott one night too in Seattle at Bisato before it closed!

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We’ll have 1975-2014 AOC Margaux …
and 1986-2010 Rayas … with most vintages 1995-2010 …

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Can’t wait for the notes, thank you for your ‘sacrifice’, Gerhard :smiley:

‘85 Rayas (twice) remains one of the best wines I’ve ever had.

I´m sure most of all here know the Bordeaux-classification.
However - there is a map of the appellation Margaux with all classified Châteaux indicated …
plus “X” is Monbrison and the the mark in the France.map is Cantemerle …
La Lagune would be further south-east “out of bounds” …

And here ist the Margaux-classification - incl. surfaces and grape varieties (approximately ´cause it changes over the vintages):

Premièr Cru Classé (1)
Château Margaux (incl. Pavillon r&b) 99(87) ha (75%CS, 20%M, 5%CF+PV)
Deuxièmes Crus Classés (5)
Château Brane-Cantenac 75 ha (55CS, 40M, 4,5CF, 0,5C)
Château Durfort-Vivens 32 ha (70CS, 20M, 10CF)
Château Lascombes 84 ha (45CS, 50M, 5PV)
Château Rausan-(Rauzan)Ségla 52 ha (54CS, 41M, 1CF, 4PV)
Château Rauzan-Gassies 30 ha (65CS, 25M, 10CF)
Troisièmes Crus Classés (10)
Château Boyd-Cantenac 17 ha (60CS, 25M, 8CF, 7PV)
Château Cantenac-Brown 48 ha (65CS, 30M, 5CF)
Château Desmirail 45 ha (60CS, 39M, 1CF)
Château Ferrière 8 ha (80CS, 15M, 5PV)
Château Giscours 80 ha (53CS, 42M, 5CF+PV)
Château d’Issan 53 ha (70CS, 30M)
Château Kirwan 37 ha (40CS, 30M, 20CF, 10PV)
Château Malescot-St.-Exupéry 23 ha (50CS, 35M, 10CF, 5PV)
Château Marquis-d’Alesme-Becker 16 ha (30CS, 45M, 15CF, 10PV)
Château Palmer 66 ha (47CS, 47M, 6PV)
Quatrièmes Crus Classés (3)
Château Marquis de Terme 38 ha (55CS, 35M, 3CF, 7PV)
Château Pouget 10 ha (60CS, 30M, 10CF)
Château Prieuré-Lichine 77 ha (50CS, 45M, 5PV)
Cinquièmes Crus Classés (2)
Château Dauzac 45 ha (58CS, 37M, 5CF)
Château du Tertre 52 ha (40CS, 35M, 20CF, 5PV)

+Château Monbrison (Cru Bourgeois) 21 ha (60CS, 20M, 15CF, 5PV)

Haut-Medoc:
Château Cantemerle (5me GCC) 90 ha (50CS, 40M, 5CF, 5PV)
Château La Lagune (3me GCC) 80 ha (60CS, 30M, 10PV, CF ripped out)
(both are not far South of AOC Margaux and fit the style)

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MARGAUX AOC-tasting - GRAZ/Austria

Restaurant/„Wirtshaus“ (inn) LAUFKE/Graz:
We were 21 persons (incl. some couples) with 16 series of 4 glasses each. The idea of the tasting was to have at least one vintage each of all the 21 classified growth in the Margaux appellation, with some additions. This was already spoiled early on – because of TCA …
Of course the classification is – especially in Margaux – quite outdated, except the Premier Château Margaux … with many underachievers … so it´s for historical reasons only.
However there were some nice surprises …
All wines have been opened 5-6 hours in advance, and carefully decanted app. 10 min. before serving.
We had a great 4-course menu in between …
My notes are necessarily short because I was busy … the points are mine, but quite conservative, the group voting comes after each flight …

1st flight:
(1) Château Dauzac (5th GCC) 2010: very youthful, modern, deep fruit but still structured, promising (90p)
(2) Château Ferrière (3me GCC) 2014: heavily corked one second after pulling the cork at home. As a substitute I took the only younger Bordeaux standing already upright in my cellar: **(2B) Ch. Quinault L´Enclos 2003 (St.Emilion) **, fully mature and a crowd-pleaser, nice, easy (89p)
(3) Château Kirwan (3me GCC) 2005: intense ripe fruit, elegant, structure still quite noticible, long, (92+p)
(4) Château Brane-Cantenac (2me GCC) 2006: all about elegance and balance, less concentrated than Kirwan, but much more accessable and elegant, very good now (91p)
Group: (1) only one point in front of (3)

1st course: beef tartare/ handwhipped butter/brioche


(picture taken a bit too late)

The corked Ferriere 2014

2nd flight:
(5) Château Prieuré-Lichine (4me GCC) 2002: quite masculine due to the style of the producer and the vintage, very Cabernet Sauv., lacking any charme now, but powerful (89p)
(6) Château Desmirail (3me GCC) 2000: lighter, softer, red-berried fruit, fully mature, slightly lactic, (87p)
(7) Pavillon rouge (du Château Margaux) 2000: full ruby-red, saturated, complex and delicate, seductive, (91p)
(8) Château Lascombes (2me GCC) 2003: full berry-fruit, soft on the palate, spicy, really complex, (92p)
Group: (8), then (7)

2nd course: braised beef cheeks/peas/celery

3rd flight:
(9) Château Pouget (4me GCC) 1985: This and the following wine are from the same owner/producer – and afaic made in the same building, not known for high quality over the years.
The wines were very similar, the 2nd ever so slightly darker and fuller, the Pouget a shade lighter and with a tiny dry edge in the finish. I do think eventually it had a tiny cork taint (would have been 88p, but NR)
(10) Château Boyd-Cantenac (3me GCC) 1985: As written above same stable/same vintage, a bit rustic, but traditional Bordeaux, cedary with a good flow, interestingly the crowd liked both – and this was the winner, (89p)
(11) Château Rauzan-Gassies (2me GCC) 1999: slightly brighter (!) than (9/10), quite rustic, old fashioned, earthy, a bit dry finish, but was loved by some tasters … (?) – (87p)
(12) Château du Tertre (5me GCC) 1999: full but bright red, quite soft, fully mature, slight lactic touch, but very good (89p)
Group: (10) - then (9). This flight was very much appreciated by the group, hard to understand for me … in contrast to the following flight which imo was definitely better, but less liked!

4th flight:
(13) Château Cantenac-Brown (3me GCC) 1989: full mature red, a bit earthy, round with slightly dry edge, nose not fully expressive, could have been very slightly corked (?), (88p without TCA?)
(14) Château d’Issan (3me GCC) 1989: cedary, brighter, mature orange red, a bit of herbs and tea, elegant, I liked it (90p)
(15) Château Cantemerle (Haut-Medoc - 5me GCC) 1989: fuller, finer, better definition than 13+14, quite long (93p)
(16) Château Marquis de Terme (4me GCC) 1989: darker berries, spicy, full and round, long and satisfying, (92p)
Group: (16) then (15) … the interesting thing was that the group did not like this flight as much as the previous one … I though the opposite, here we had what could be the typical Margaux-character

3rd course: lamb/ragout/savoy/duxelles (mushrooms)

5th flight:
(17) Château Malescot-St.-Exupéry (3me GCC) 1975: quite bright orange-red and soft, balanced with supporting acidity, complex but not very long (87p) (on opening almost dead, 6 h later a good wine)
(18) Château Durfort-Vivens (2me GCC) 1975: similar colour as (17), slightly more grip, also real class and longer, but very mature, very good for old-wine-lovers (89p)
(19) Château Marquis-d’Alesme-Becker (3me GCC) 1979: on opening a bit suspicious, retasted after 3 h  corked, so I opened a substitute (19B)
(20) Château Giscours (3me GCC) 1975: fuller colour, still remains of tannins, balanced acidity, quite old fashioned powerful with persistence and strong finish, (94p)
(19B) Château La Lagune/Haut-Medoc (3me GCC) 1983: was open only 2+ h, less expressive, full mature colour, classy, good grip, long finish, (91p)
Group: (20), then (19B)
This was the usual „old-wine.flight“ – all bottles had a good fill of top to upper shoulder, all 3 sound bottles were far less interesting on opening, the Malescot close to dead, but all improved immensly over 5+ hours (incl. the TCA)

6th flight:
(21) Château Margaux (1er GCC) 1983: on opening saturated mature colour, seemed velvety and almost seemless, great expectations, but at the tasting it proved to be slightly but noticable corked, what a pity, would have been the best of the tasting with points in the upper 90ies.
(22) Château Palmer (3me GCC) 1983: much brighter colour, really voluptuous but soft, wet underwood, very elegant, even Burgundian, just enough structure with great balance, (96p)
(23) Château Palmer (3me GCC) 1989: darker ruby, spicy, green olives, mushrooms, great persistence, still potential (97p)
(24) Château Rausan-(Rauzan)Ségla (2me GCC) 1990: fuller darker red, fragrant, still a bit plummy, even chewy, very long, had great competition with the Palmers (95p)
The corked Ch.Margaux was a sting in the flesh, but the rest were a treat, simply great wines.
group voting for the last flight: 1989 Palmer in front of 1983 Palmer …

dessert wines (brought by participants):
(25) Graacher Domprobst Riesling Spätlese 2016 (Mosel)/Willi Schäfer: typical younger seemless German Mosel Riesling
(26) Dorsheimer Burgberg Riesling Spätlese 2006 (Nahe)/Schlossgut Diel: slightly more grip/acidity, very good
(27) Hochheimer Hölle Riesling Spätlese 1995 (Rheingau)/Franz Künstler: darker but less sweet, nice
(28) Cadillac Cuvée Particulière 1995 (Cellier de Graman): the sweetest, Sauternes style, very good, but the German guests – who have brough the Rieslings – prefered those.

dessert: rhubarb/raspberries/yoghurt
(forgot to take a pic, sorry)

Summary: we didn´t detect a really typical Margaux (AOC) style like we had in out St.Julien tasting 2 years ago, but all were typical Medoc Cbernet Sauvignon-wines, maybe the typical lead pencil of a Pauillac was missing, also the velvety of the St.Juliens … Cantemerle/La Lagune fit in perfectly (they are not far away to the South). Some really nice and outstanding wines, but the excitements were in the last flight.

btw: The FOOD at Laufke was exceptional … heavily recommended !!!

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Thanks for the notes. For the wines I’ve had, your impressions are consistent with my experience. The 1989 Cantemerle has long been a favorite and 1983 La Lagune was a sleeper as was the 1982. It’s a shame the 1983 Margaux was corked as it is such a standout. Comparisons of 1983 and 1989 Palmer are always fun, both are always outstanding in their own ways. It is no surprise that the 1990 RS held its own in lofty company, my main regret is that I’m down to my last bottle.

Mike - agree with you …

I forgot to quote the group voting for the last flight:
1989 Palmer in front of 1983 Palmer …

… and I also forgot to state:

The FOOD at Laufke was exceptional … heavily recommended !!!

(both edited above)

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I have to say that I’m surprised there haven’t been more comments on your notes. I, for one, appreciate the time you took in writing and posting them.

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Looking forward to you Rayas write-up

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This was the outcome of several bottles of this consumed of these two wines over the past two years.

Thank you, Mike …
me, too.

… and the Ch.Margaux 1983, too?

Thank you for the nice comments on the Margaux write-up …

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thanks, gerhard - appreciate your notes very much !
I can’t commment on the wines, since the only ones I own are pavillon 2000 and kirwan / lascombes 2005, but following your notes, I am very much looking foward to tasting them.

Fine. Pavillon rouge 2000 is in a great spot now, Kirwan 2005 needs 5+ more years … at least

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Nice notes. Agree, both the 83 and 89 Palmer are great, but for me personally I’d also give the nod to 89.