Tissue Wrap Preference and a Question

[ncostanzo1]

@adam landa

@ncostanzo1

@Chris Seiber

“What color is the tissue on 2005 Scarecrow” is an all time great WB post. I don’t mean that as an insult or criticism, but it’s just awesome how far we can get down into the minutea of our hobby. Rock on.

Hit.The.Nail.

+100 But I do get the OP question thought around it in all fairness.

As the OP, the question was not asked in jest…just looking for assistance. Thank you to those that responded…as well as to those that PMed to express their disbelief re the number of a**holes on the WB board that contribute nothing.

Didn’t mean no disrespect, I think people were just having a little fun with the topic. I think you have a point in what you asked, but still thought some of the remarks were funny but didn’t think they were mean spirited. Hope this doesn’t persuade you from participating in this community.

[David_S1]

@Mike V e r h i l l e

I just spent more time thinking about tissue wrapping of wine bottles than all of my cumulative wine buying life.

Bonus points if you were on the clock too.

[David_S1]

@Scott G r u n e r

Feeling a bit curmudgeonly today. Tissue is 100% unnecessary IMO. I would just assume it not be used. It feels pretentious and pointless and is annoying to find things when not removed and not neck tagged properly.

However I understand why it is used- adds that last little bit of pomp and re-assurance to the customer that they acquired an exclusive and true luxury item- makes people feel better about spending way too much money on wine. Helps reinforce the notion that the label is as important than the juice inside.

I suppose it does add a tiny bit of label protection for selling later, but frankly that isn’t much of a motivator.

True, true and I want it. I suppose it’s just like wood boxes. Those just getting started in buying higher ends wines can get excited about the first few purchases that come in those sexy things, but I also know some places you can opt of getting your wine in them for the same price because people have too many hanging around. I only have a few producers that wrap their bottles, so it’s not a pain for me yet. But Buccella uses a thick wax coated paper that takes a beating, but is a struggle to see through to see what is what.

[John_Morris]

@adam landa

As the OP, the question was not asked in jest…just looking for assistance. Thank you to those that responded…as well as to those that PMed to express their disbelief re the number of a**holes on the WB board that contribute nothing.

I think I would be considered the second a**hole to jump in, after nearly falling off my chair laughing at the post, even before I saw Chris Seiber’s post.

No unkindness or disrespect intended. I can see that tissue wrapping could make keeping track of ones wines difficult.

Still, the question was pretty hilarious – like some parody the Hosemaster might dream up. As they say, definitely a First World problem.

[Bruce_Leiser_owitz]

@Poppy Davis

As a former auction house employee, I HATE tissue. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen labels destroyed because the tissue either bleeds or gets stuck to the label. Just say no to tissue.

I think we should develop strict standards as to type of paper, thickness of paper, color of paper, moisture resistance, and stickiness resistance. Otherwise, it’s all chaos…

Bruce

[Nolan_E]

@Bruce Leiser_owitz

@Poppy Davis

As a former auction house employee, I HATE tissue. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen labels destroyed because the tissue either bleeds or gets stuck to the label. Just say no to tissue.

I think we should develop strict standards as to type of paper, thickness of paper, color of paper, moisture resistance, and stickiness resistance. Otherwise, it’s all chaos…

Bruce

That violates my first amendment rights.

[Ken_V]

@adam landa

…as well as to those that PMed to express their disbelief re the number of a**holes on the WB board that contribute nothing.

I wonder what such humorless people are doing on Wine BERSERKERS?

[Dan.Gord0n]

@Nolan E

@Dan.Gord0n

Given that the cost of wrapping in tissue is already covered, the marginal cost of adding a $.25 sticker should be next to nothing but the cost of the sticker (perhaps ordered by the thousands it would be less than $.25). Particularly given that the wines that tend to have tissue wrap are over $100, I wouldn’t mind paying an extra $.25 per bottle if they actually wanted to cover the cost of the sticker.

Maybe the sticker costs $0.25, but you have to pay someone to put the sticker on and this process would slow down/extend the bottling run and push labor costs higher. Not a $0.25/bottle increase.

Given the time to wrap it, the extra 2-3 seconds to put on the sticker is nothing and will not lead to extra costs. The choice to wrap it is the big cost and likely happen well after bottling and at the time of shipment in any event.

[J_a_y_H_a_c_k]

@NED VALOIS

It attracts moisture. I remove it.

Another issue we agree on. This and Pastrami.

[Nolan_E]

@Dan.Gord0n

@Nolan E

@Dan.Gord0n

Given that the cost of wrapping in tissue is already covered, the marginal cost of adding a $.25 sticker should be next to nothing but the cost of the sticker (perhaps ordered by the thousands it would be less than $.25). Particularly given that the wines that tend to have tissue wrap are over $100, I wouldn’t mind paying an extra $.25 per bottle if they actually wanted to cover the cost of the sticker.

Maybe the sticker costs $0.25, but you have to pay someone to put the sticker on and this process would slow down/extend the bottling run and push labor costs higher. Not a $0.25/bottle increase.

Given the time to wrap it, the extra 2-3 seconds to put on the sticker is nothing and will not lead to extra costs. The choice to wrap it is the big cost and likely happen well after bottling and at the time of shipment in any event.

Are you ITB?

[NED_VALOIS]

@J a y H a c k

@NED VALOIS

It attracts moisture. I remove it.

Another issue we agree on. This and Pastrami.

OMG !
I’d better re-think this then !

[Chris_Seiber]

@Ken V

@adam landa

…as well as to those that PMed to express their disbelief re the number of a**holes on the WB board that contribute nothing.

I wonder what such humorless people are doing on Wine BERSERKERS?

No kidding. I don’t think we could have been any nicer and less critical about it. Maybe this isn’t the place for Adam.

[Dan.Gord0n]

@Nolan E

@Dan.Gord0n

Given the time to wrap it, the extra 2-3 seconds to put on the sticker is nothing and will not lead to extra costs. The choice to wrap it is the big cost and likely happen well after bottling and at the time of shipment in any event.

Are you ITB?

Nope but I know how long it would take me to take a sticker off a roll and put it on a bottle. In fact, for my SQNs which I leave the tissue on, I have made my own little vintage stickers to apply to bottles and once I have written them and cut them, it takes no time at all to affix them to the bottle… I would do it with all my wrapped bottles but it takes such a long time to make the stickers in the first place by hand I don’t.

[GregT]

As the OP, the question was not asked in jest…just looking for assistance. Thank you to those that responded…as well as to those that PMed to express their disbelief re the number of a**holes on the WB board that contribute nothing.

That’s not fair at all. Chris nailed it.

It’s like asking what the thickness of a bubble wrap on a set of ear buds is. It’s true that someone had to spec it out but it’s really going to the next level for the consumer to care about the wrapping!

Most people ITB hate tissue. It may look nice when it arrives (not always) but the customer picks up a bottle and it slips out of the tissue and you just took a loss. So retailers remove it.

When you get wine shipped in a styro container, it mashes up the tissue.

It’s generally something to throw out. The people who joked about it weren’t nasty in any way, but seriously man, lighten up.

Why not put the tissue on yourself? On every bottle? You can write the name on a ribbon and do it like this lady does - less than 10 seconds a bottle once you have the ribbons made and the tissue sized. Get the family involved - one person writing the name of the wine and the score, another getting the paper ready, and another putting them back into the rack in the appropriate spot.

How to wrap a bottle of fizz in just 10 seconds

[Robert.A.Jr]

Reminds me of Eddie Murphy, Raw, in his MJ impression, “Tito, get me some tissue”.

Eddie Murphy Delirious - Michael Jackson Enhanced HD

God I love this skit. And the best part, apropos to this thread, “Greg . . . I mean Germain . . . Quit teasing”.

I just ripped the wrapping off of a Jamet in protest.

[Tom_Gibson]

As the OP, the question was not asked in jest…just looking for assistance. Thank you to those that responded…as well as to those that PMed to express their disbelief re the number of a**holes on the WB board that contribute nothing.

I thought this thread was going to be wayyyyyyyyyy more mean than it is, but the fact there are any real responses is shocking (but heartening).

[Al_R]

All these posts and no one posted a picture? Sorry, no banana for scale, but here’s the color of their wrap. The nice thing is that it is thin enough that you can actually see what the wine label says behind it. I, like OP, wish more wineries would include a sticker on the outside of the wrap with the name/vintage!

[adam_landa]

@Al R

All these posts and no one posted a picture? Sorry, no banana for scale, but here’s the color of their wrap. The nice thing is that it is thin enough that you can actually see what the wine label says behind it. I, like OP, wish more wineries would include a sticker on the outside of the wrap with the name/vintage!

Al…Thank you for the helpful post…this is what I need to know to help me find the bottles I misplaced.

[Rob_Lynch]

@adam landa

@Al R

All these posts and no one posted a picture? Sorry, no banana for scale, but here’s the color of their wrap. The nice thing is that it is thin enough that you can actually see what the wine label says behind it. I, like OP, wish more wineries would include a sticker on the outside of the wrap with the name/vintage!

Al…Thank you for the helpful post…this is what I need to know to help me find the bottles I misplaced.

Kind of “straw” colored I notice…

[John_Ammons]

Wine wrapped in tissue paper is above my pay grade.

Although IIRC, Turley came wrapped in tissue paper. Turned out it was above my octane grade.