Producers you wish you had more of

[Jayson_Cohen]

For whatever reason, Piedmont has been the region that was the hardest for me to learn the top producers and top vineyards. Not a region you want to get to late in the game on cellaring and collecting.

I agree. I have learned about a couple of producers where I like the wine and the prices are relatively reasonable, but I cannot buy them because it is insane to buy young Barolo when I am almost 65.

I don’t know about that; lots of 2011s, 2014s and even 2015s drinking pretty well. I’ve gone through close to half a case of the 14 Rupestris.

I wouldn’t open your 10s or 13s, but that’s a different kettle of fish.

Maybe Howard thinks about Barolo like I do. Still waiting on ‘89s and ‘90s.

[Pat_Martin]

I agree. I have learned about a couple of producers where I like the wine and the prices are relatively reasonable, but I cannot buy them because it is insane to buy young Barolo when I am almost 65.

I don’t know about that; lots of 2011s, 2014s and even 2015s drinking pretty well. I’ve gone through close to half a case of the 14 Rupestris.

I wouldn’t open your 10s or 13s, but that’s a different kettle of fish.

Maybe Howard thinks about Barolo like I do. Still waiting on ‘89s and ‘90s.

And Bordeaux.

[Michael_Martin]

Older Jaffurs and Ojai Syrah, pre 2007.

[Greg_K]

I agree. I have learned about a couple of producers where I like the wine and the prices are relatively reasonable, but I cannot buy them because it is insane to buy young Barolo when I am almost 65.

I don’t know about that; lots of 2011s, 2014s and even 2015s drinking pretty well. I’ve gone through close to half a case of the 14 Rupestris.

I wouldn’t open your 10s or 13s, but that’s a different kettle of fish.

Maybe Howard thinks about Barolo like I do. Still waiting on ‘89s and ‘90s.

I’ve had some pretty good 89s! Not all Barolo is meant to age (let alone age forever), in my opinion. I think people really over fetishize old barolo sometimes.

[Mattstolz]

Thinking about this question, I came to a conclusion about my own buying. By a considerable margin, I buy more Red Burg than anything–both in terms of $$ and volume. But I don’t actually enjoy Red Burg much more (perhaps not any more) than the categories mentioned above. I think my Red Burg buying is motivated nearly as much by the collecting/academic instinct–the desire to try new vintages and vineyards and producers and dive into the minutia–as it is enjoyment of the wine. Burgundy provides the most depth in terms of exploration. It’s a lot more expensive (and in a sense, a lot more interesting) to explore a bunch of different Chambolle 1ers than it is to compare big-house Champagnes in a given vintage. But I more often crave Champagne. So while I could certainly point to a ton of Burg producers I wish occupied a bigger position in my cellar, that’s in some a desire to fill out my knowledge (satisfy my curiosity) rather than have a greater quantity of delicious burgs (which I have a ton of).

The easy answer is what’s missing from my cellar in terms of what I love to drink but don’t have enough of? Whites and Champagne.

personally, I think that the academic side goes hand in hand with the enjoyment factor. sure, I like the taste of other, “simpler” regions about as much as Burgundy, but the academic side gives Burgundy the edge more often than not. that being said, I think you can get pretty nerdy with a lot of great wine regions if you want. Piedmont, Oregon, Sicily, German Riesling all come to mind. especially riesling!

[alan_weinberg]

Dujac
more Ramonet.
That’s enough.

[Ian_S]

Suddenly having more Pio Cesare Barolo from the 90’s would be a bunce!

[Jonathan_A_A]

Well for me it would be Overnoy, really hard to source at decent prices nowadays, there is so much speculation that the “cavistes” don’t want to sell them, scared that you might offload them on idealwine at 5 times the purchase price.

But also, I wish I had old Prieuré-Roch, more Xavier Caillard Les Jardins Esmeraldins, more Selosse (have a bit but never enough), Ulysse Collin, Domaine des Miroirs and last but not least, some more Rayas too!

[Jonathan_A_A]

Oh and I wish I bought some D’Auvenay 10 years ago!

[PCLIN]

Clos Rougeard Le Bourg and Poyeux.

[Russell_Faulkner]

Most things you can buy if you have the $. So I’d say a couple of harder to find things.

Wilhelm Haag era Fritz Haag
Keller and Julian Haart Schubertslay, Lieser Dr and Weiser-Künstler EE (Kabis)

[dcornutt]

Krug
JF Mugnier
Liger-Belair

[maureen_nelson]

If I am limiting my responses to producers I was buying when they were relatively reasonably priced:

Roumier (started buying with the 1985 vintage but just bought the village chambolle in early years and not enough!)
Mugneret-Gibourg (i was already buying these by the late 1990s)
Hudelot Noellat (ditto)
Raveneau
G. Rinaldi
Rousseau
Dujac

The latter two i always thought were priced a little too high for me so I bought next to none but i wish I had been more extravagrant and bought more.

[Vikrant_Rachakonda]

Less pricey/more attainable:
Sociando Mallet
Old vintages of La Louviere
Produttori
JJ Prum
Huet
Domaine de chevalier
Sigalas Vin Santo
Felsina Rancia

Expensive/reach:
Pichon Baron and Comtesse
Montrose
Ridge Monte Bello
VCC
Allemand

[Vinod_S]

The wine I wish I could afford, Rayas or Monfortino. Their producers second wines with age are among the best wines I’ve ever had and pretty unique stylistically.

Wines I love, and own some of, but could never have enough of are Musar and Lopez de Heredia, pair unbelievably well with food and reward long-term aging.

[Robert_Dentice]

For me it would be wines that money can’t buy. Puffeney and Clos Roche Blanche would be two great examples.

[m_ristev]

puffeney still makes a bit of wine i believe! but i agree…wish i stocked up heavily on the poulsard m when there were stacks of it sitting in the astor cold room.

[J_Trombley]

After not showing much restraint with my first allocation this year, Sandlands comes to mind for me.

[Jayson_Cohen]

If I am limiting my responses to producers I was buying when they were relatively reasonably priced:

Roumier (started buying with the 1985 vintage but just bought the village chambolle in early years and not enough!)
Mugneret-Gibourg (i was already buying these by the late 1990s)
Hudelot Noellat (ditto)
Raveneau
G. Rinaldi
Rousseau
Dujac

The latter two i always thought were priced a little too high for me so I bought next to none but i wish I had been more extravagrant and bought more.

That’s how I feel about Rousseau now too.

[Brian_S_t_o_t_t_e_r]

For me they are producers I love but wish I had a more extensive backfill.

Edmunds St John
Dunn Vineyards
Chateau du Beaucastel
Martin Mullen
JJ Prum
Willi Schaefer