TN: 2015 Beta Cabernet Sauvignon Vare Vineyard

J_Singleton · May 13, 2021, 12:25am

Opened a ‘13 Vare after all this rigmorale. Radiant. I don’t see a world where the ‘14 or ‘15 can compete with the ‘13. This one has the stuffing to go to infinity and beyond.

JViolini · May 13, 2021, 1:08am

Recently I decanted the 2013 Vare for about 2-3 hours and I drank the 2011 Montecillo over 3 days (just corking, not gassing the bottle) and by the 3rd day I thought it had opened up, flushed out and fully expressed itself.

MChang · May 13, 2021, 1:22am

I will have to open a 14 or 15 to see. The 13 is the best cab I’ve had in… idk, a really long time, and I’ve drank some pretty good cabs recently.

CFu · May 13, 2021, 2:00am

Be wary of pump and dump schemes

You’ll have to explain that one to me you salty minx you. Sticking with the Chris Marlowe era vibe, the lady doth protest too much!

Now the accusation (or general PSA as it was framed) might have some merit if I was the type to be overly active on various social media platforms simultaneously promoting the godliness of certain wines and selling them on the side. But that’s something I don’t dabble in as I find it revolting, joyless and riddled with legal/tax issues that I have no interest in dealing with. Lord knows the world has enough of those shady actors anyway so no need for me to get involved in that.

Wait, Bobby, people do that? Would that qualify as unethical, sketchy, illegal, or just slightly questionable? I’m sure mentioning it on this thread, the admonition would fall on deaf ears, given there’s no one on this thread that would ever behave that way! Also, is it still a “pump and dump scheme” if you keep some of it yourself, or do you have to sell through?

If you got an accusation to make go for it. Don’t pussy foot.

NoahR · May 13, 2021, 2:39am

You’ll have to explain that one to me you salty minx you. Sticking with the Chris Marlowe era vibe, the lady doth protest too much!

Now the accusation (or general PSA as it was framed) might have some merit if I was the type to be overly active on various social media platforms simultaneously promoting the godliness of certain wines and selling them on the side. But that’s something I don’t dabble in as I find it revolting, joyless and riddled with legal/tax issues that I have no interest in dealing with. Lord knows the world has enough of those shady actors anyway so no need for me to get involved in that.

Wait, Bobby, people do that? Would that qualify as unethical, sketchy, illegal, or just slightly questionable? I’m sure mentioning it on this thread, the admonition would fall on deaf ears, given there’s no one on this thread that would ever behave that way! Also, is it still a “pump and dump scheme” if you keep some of it yourself, or do you have to sell through?

If you got an accusation to make go for it. Don’t pussy foot.

I wasn’t accusing Bobby.

Curtis_Chen · May 13, 2021, 2:57am

Name the person on this thread that you are accusing.

w.fu · May 13, 2021, 3:00am

No shit Sherlock

NoahR · May 13, 2021, 3:21am

Wouldn’t want to get booted by the Mods.

Curtis_Chen · May 13, 2021, 3:37am

JDavisRoby · May 13, 2021, 3:43am

This thread has me really confused.

Glen_Gold · May 13, 2021, 5:33am

I feel like the sarcasm has gone 180 degrees then 360 then maybe 720 so that I’m not even sure what people are actually saying or being ironic about. Folks are too clever. Hey, I had a Beta chardonnay last week and it was really good. I’d recently had one that was in an awkward phase and, in an amazing hall-of-fame customer service moment, Ketan more than made me whole for that experience.

R_Gilbane · May 13, 2021, 11:10am

Confusion reigns supreme. I was having a nice time on the Internet discussing tasting experiences for a wine I’ve enjoyed and now I’m labeled the architect of a Pump and Dump Scheme by Fu because reasons unknown. Flip side to that was another Fu has demanded statues made in my and Beta Cabernet’s honor so go figure. Either the system is broken or it’s operating at peak efficiency!

MChang · May 13, 2021, 11:50am

I feel like the sarcasm has gone 180 degrees then 360 then maybe 720 so that I’m not even sure what people are actually saying or being ironic about. Folks are too clever. Hey, I had a Beta chardonnay last week and it was really good. I’d recently had one that was in an awkward phase and, in an amazing hall-of-fame customer service moment, Ketan more than made me whole for that experience.

Confusion reigns supreme. I was having a nice time on the Internet discussing tasting experiences for a wine I’ve enjoyed and now I’m labeled the architect of a Pump and Dump Scheme by Fu because reasons unknown. Flip side to that was another Fu has demanded statues made in my and Beta Cabernet’s honor so go figure. Either the system is broken or it’s operating at peak efficiency!

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It’s all fun and games until someone gets fu-ed up.

Peter_Petersen · June 8, 2021, 5:30pm

Drank this over two nights. For the first night half the bottle was decanted (5 hrs) in my 500ml Erlenmeyer, for the second night it was just out of bottle which had been recorked and stored in my wine fridge. No significant differences from what I could tell.

Effusive aromas of cherry and berries with a healthy complement of medicinal herbs. Palate is refreshing but not quite smooth yet. A great wine with food and drank beautifully after the meal. Definitely old school and my definition of a steak wine even if it isn’t most peoples definition. Overall a perfectly balanced wine with enticing aromas. Maybe comparing it to a young Barolo gives a better image than saying Napa Cab. That said, this definitely a Cab!

Super excited to visit on Th to see what new wines are coming!

R_Gilbane · June 9, 2021, 12:53am

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Drank this over two nights. For the first night half the bottle was decanted (5 hrs) in my 500ml Erlenmeyer, for the second night it was just out of bottle which had been recorked and stored in my wine fridge. No significant differences from what I could tell.

Effusive aromas of cherry and berries with a healthy complement of medicinal herbs. Palate is refreshing but not quite smooth yet. A great wine with food and drank beautifully after the meal. Definitely old school and my definition of a steak wine even if it isn’t most peoples definition. Overall a perfectly balanced wine with enticing aromas. Maybe comparing it to a young Barolo gives a better image than saying Napa Cab. That said, this definitely a Cab!

Super excited to visit on Th to see what new wines are coming!

Great note Peter. You’re clearly a gentleman of refined taste who understands the nuance of fine wine.

Mike_Schieffer · June 9, 2021, 4:03pm

I have a feeling there are a lot of inside jokes we’re not privy to.

Peter_Petersen · June 11, 2021, 3:20am

Just came back from the top of Diamond Mountain and spent 4 hrs tasting, eating and learning about Ketan’s philosophy. I’m not sure I need to explore Napa much more. Having hit gold why go for less!

Dan_M · June 12, 2021, 10:56pm

What did you get to taste? Any more you can share?

Peter_Petersen · June 13, 2021, 12:58am

When I get back to a bigger device!

Peter_Petersen · June 16, 2021, 6:01pm

Damn, I was just ready to post my report on my visit to Ketan and Alex the day. Pressed the “save” and lost almost the entire write up.